She must really hate the Mexican Flag Now.......

[SLM]

Yup, she uploaded the video to her own you tube channel. Something she has done with quite a few other video's. I see though, that this video is the only one getting slammed. She didn't threaten the people, she didn't swear at them, she was very polite through the whole thing. She didn't make this an issue. Others decided to make this an issue.

Look I'm not defending people for slamming her or her video, I think that's even more asinine than the whole flag issue in the first place.

No she didn't threaten or swear at them. As for being polite, I actually thought she was a little condescending myself. Her definition of fair is not the definition of fair. Is it fair for her choices to be the determining factor for what her neighbour can and cannot do, should or shouldn't do?

Just because there are other bigger idiots out there who get so wound up over a stupid video as to make threats doesn't mean I'm going to defend her statement or her choice to interfere with her neighbours in this way. She's posing questions to a women who can't answer her because her language skills are not there, filming someone through their window. Does she have a right to make a statement? Sure, she has every right to say whatever in the hell she wants, I'm not going to tell her to shut up about it. But if I think what she's saying is stupid, I'm going to voice that opinion.

What her neighbours choose to do on their property is, simply put, none of her freaking business.

 

[BaalsTears]

Not so, I was mostly mocking her for making a mountain out of a molehill. She is not damaged by having her neighbour fly a flag, anymore than if it were a Pride flag, or flag with a family crest upon it. Too bad if she doesn't like looking at, if it doesn't breach any city by-laws she really has nothing to say about it. Perhaps, and this is purely conjecture on my part I will admit, others in the neighbourhood may feel her front curtains are hideous. Big fuking deal, they would have to suck that up as well.

Because really this isn't about racism or nationalism or anything like that. Not really. What it is about is a woman who doesn't like to look at something and has decided to make a major case about it. Not unlike the neighbour who object to what colour you painted your front door or the kind of plants you put in your yard.

Do you feel the same way about the flag of the Confederacy or the Stars and Bars?

 

[SLM]

Do you feel the same way about the flag of the Confederacy or the Stars and Bars?

I don't feel anyway about a flag. It's a flag.

 

[gerryh]

I don't feel anyway about a flag. It's a flag.

and there's the difference. For me, I understand exactly what she is feeling and saying. It pisses me off when I see an american only flag flying up here. It pisses me off if I see any flag fly above the Canadian flag. In Canada, if only one flag is being flown, it damn well better be Canadian. If a Canadian flag is being flown along with another flag, the Canadian flag damn well better be flown higher. I would expect the same in the states with the american flag being the prominent.

So, in Ontario California, if you want to fly the mexican flag, then you fly it along with the american flag with the american flag flown higher. After all, it is the United States of America, not mexico and it's not a Mexican consolate.

 

[BaalsTears]

I don't feel anyway about a flag. It's a flag.

Isn't the Maple Leaf flag more than a rag on a pole?

 

[Ron in Regina]

and there's the difference. For me, I understand exactly what she is feeling and saying. It pisses me off when I see an american only flag flying up here. It pisses me off if I see any flag fly above the Canadian flag. In Canada, if only one flag is being flown, it damn well better be Canadian. If a Canadian flag is being flown along with another flag, the Canadian flag damn well better be flown higher. I would expect the same in the states with the american flag being the prominent.

So, in Ontario California, if you want to fly the mexican flag, then you fly it along with the american flag with the american flag flown higher. After all, it is the United States of America, not mexico and it's not a Mexican consolate.

I think I might have figured this one out. It might come down to the age of
the history book (or version of history) that the person "fly'n the flag" was
exposed to. Mexican & American history are not the same things.

My Daughter-in-Law comes from Utah, and in her last high school history
class there where 40 students. Two of those students (including my
Daughter-in-Law) where not of Mexican ancestry. The teacher was
openly heckled and jeered in class regarding the textbook they
where using by many of the students in that class regarding American
history.

 

[SLM]

and there's the difference. For me, I understand exactly what she is feeling and saying. It pisses me off when I see an american only flag flying up here. It pisses me off if I see any flag fly above the Canadian flag. In Canada, if only one flag is being flown, it damn well better be Canadian. If a Canadian flag is being flown along with another flag, the Canadian flag damn well better be flown higher. I would expect the same in the states with the american flag being the prominent.

I can understand that, I'm not questioning her feelings on the matter. She feels the way she feels. She either likes what her neighbors display or she does not. But she has no say as to what they display. She is free however to dislike it as much as she wants. It is the way she went about expressing it that I found unpalatable. Not saying she should be drawn & quartered for it, just that I found it condescending.

Is this about a flag or is this about self-expression? Can a flag not also be self-expression? Do I or do I not have the right to tell you how to express yourself in your own home, on your own property? I don't think I do, not about something that really causes no harm. Because not liking something is not harm.

So, in Ontario California, if you want to fly the mexican flag, then you fly it along with the american flag with the american flag flown higher. After all, it is the United States of America, not mexico and it's not a Mexican consolate.

Banuelos’s husband, Sigifredo Banuelos, who does speak some English, said the homeowners fly the flag to celebrate their Mexican heritage. They also have an American flag, he noted.

Isn't the Maple Leaf flag more than a rag on a pole?

Of course it isn't, and neither is the Mexican flag. Or the American flag.

I thought in America you were supposed to be free, not free to be like me.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I thought in America you were supposed to be free, not free to be like me.

Yeah, well. . .

 

[gerryh]

I can understand that, I'm not questioning her feelings on the matter. She feels the way she feels. She either likes what her neighbors display or she does not. But she has no say as to what they display. She is free however to dislike it as much as she wants. It is the way she went about expressing it that I found unpalatable. Not saying she should be drawn & quartered for it, just that I found it condescending.

Is this about a flag or is this about self-expression? Can a flag not also be self-expression? Do I or do I not have the right to tell you how to express yourself in your own home, on your own property? I don't think I do, not about something that really causes no harm. Because not liking something is not harm.

I really don't think you understand the importance some place on the flag.

I thought in America you were supposed to be free, not free to be like me.

obviously not, since the woman in question is being crucified for her opinion and beliefs.

 

[BaalsTears]

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Of course it isn't, and neither is the Mexican flag. Or the American flag.

I thought in America you were supposed to be free, not free to be like me.

The Maple Leaf flag is a thing of beauty. The Mexican flag represents a buzzard and a worm. The American flag doesn't represent much of anything any more.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I really don't think you understand the importance some place on the flag.








obviously not, since the woman in question is being crucified for her opinion and beliefs.

In what way is she being crucified?

 

[gerryh]

In what way is she being crucified?

Of course, how stupid of me. Having her life threatened and loosing her job is no big deal.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Of course, how stupid of me. Having her life threatened and loosing her job is no big deal.

Losing her job is hardly crucifixion. In the U.S., you have no right to a job, and perhaps the quickest way to a pink slip is to get yourself notorious. Reminds me of the woman who started posting all kinds of gun-nut BS on Facebook, including lots of pictures of herself with guns, and then was shocked and amazed when they fired her from her job as a nurse at a nursing home.

As for the death threats, weren't you just the laddie standing up for freedom of speech?

The Bill of Rights protects you from. . . wait for it. . . here we go. . . GOVERNMENT ACTION against you for exercising your rights. Not from your boss. Not from people who call you an a$$hole, or even people who issue death threats, unless those threats meet certain legal criteria.

And by the way, as to some of the other speculation on this thread, no, she would not have done the same if it was a British flag, or an Irish flag, or a German flag.

 

[gerryh]

Losing her job is hardly crucifixion. In the U.S., you have no right to a job, and perhaps the quickest way to a pink slip is to get yourself notorious. Reminds me of the woman who started posting all kinds of gun-nut BS on Facebook, including lots of pictures of herself with guns, and then was shocked and amazed when they fired her from her job as a nurse at a nursing home.

As for the death threats, weren't you just the laddie standing up for freedom of speech?

I call it crucified, and as for freedom of speech, that does not extend to death threats.


Your attitude doesn't surprise me though. Since you have not received a retainer from her and therefore are not representing her, she isn't worth your time.

And by the way, as to some of the other speculation on this thread, no, she would not have done the same if it was a British flag, or an Irish flag, or a German flag.

and you would know this how? You know the woman personally?

 

[taxslave]

One thing sor sureis Mexico is not going to take over Califrnia any time soon. They could not afford the extra debt load.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I call it crucified, and as for freedom of speech, that does not extend to death threats.


Your attitude doesn't surprise me though. Since you have not received a retainer from her and therefore are not representing her, she isn't worth your time.

Some moron trespassing to express her idiotic point of view is not worth anybody's time.

and you would know this how? You know the woman personally?

It's a pretty sure bet. The anti-Mexico attitude of a certain stripe of Southern Californian ain't exactly a secret.

 

[Blackleaf]

That's because they're Brits and can't handle spicy foods.

Don't be a Silly Billy. Britain is a nation of curry-lovers.

It was the British who gave the world some of its finest curries - like chicken tikka masala (which both Birmingham and Glasgow lay claim to and which is now our national dish) and Balti (which was invented in Birmingham). Birmingham and its surrounding area has so many curry houses that it's known as the Balti Triangle.

The first curry house in Britain opened in London in 1810, when Sake Dean Mahomed opened the Hindoostanee Coffee House fifty years before the first fish and chip shop opened.

In fact, in 2012 Britain was named the best place in the world to eat curry.

To say that the British don't like spicy food is like saying that the Japanese don't like fish.

In 2012, Birmingham applied for its famous Balti curry - one of Britian's most popular dishes - to be given protected EU status

 

[Locutus]

I hear they're doing a wax curri hommage at Madame Tussauds.

 

[shadowshiv]

And yet another person that lost their job due to their own stupidity. It's bad enough that you tape yourself doing this, but to then send it out onto the internet? Dumb, dumb, dumb!

Flags, goddam flags!!!

Won't someone think of the kidz

lolz

Perhaps if she had played 'Wavin' Flags' on her phone, this would never had happened.

 

[Blackleaf]

I can almost understand this woman.

I feel exactly the same whenever I see the EU flag flying anywhere.

I hear they're doing a wax curri hommage at Madame Tussauds.

You can even buy chicken tikka masala sandwiches in shops and supermarkets here.

Just don't make the mistake I did a few months ago when I ate a couple of them whilst walking down the street on a scorching hot summer's day without having a cold drink handy.