Toddler falls into church baptistery, drowns
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What does this report have to do with your argument about bringing a child into the church before they can reasonably decide for themselves?
This report has nothing to do with it at all.
This sounds like a simple case of parents not paying attention to what their children are doing and let them wander off to do whatever they hell they want with little regard.
The fault here isn't so much with the church but with the parents.
In regards to your argument, it doesn't make much sense. You want parents to get a babysitter for their kids while they go to church? You want parents to separate a part of what they do with their lives from their kids and somehow make it a secret, rather than allow them to be a part of it?
I'm no longer religious by any means and while I believe that children shouldn't be forced into a religion against their will, I also don't agree with your view of keeping them away from religion until you think they're old enough to decide for themselves.
The Roman Catholic religion (the one I was raised in) has multiple different stages of age where children can decide if they wish to continue with the faith through different stages and sacraments they go through.... if you decide not to go through any of them, then that's it.... the final one is Confirmation which occurs in the mid-teens where a child has enough reason to determine if they want to continue or not and be bonded in the faith.
My sister is also no longer religious like myself, however, out of the three kids she has, one of them loves going to church and follows through many of the teachings.... she was neither forced or discouraged. Her kids are less than 10 years old.... but what would you prefer? That she tell her child that she couldn't follow a religion until she thinks she's old enough to choose properly or let her do what she likes?
If you think she should deny her the ability to follow a faith "until the kids are old enough to decide" then you're being just as hypocritical as those who force their children into a religion even if they don't want to.
Again, "Until the kids are old enough to decide" is a vague determination. At what age is right in your books?
When they can form sentences around the age 2-3?
When they're 8-10?
When their in their teens? (12-17)
When they're finally an adult? (18 and older)
Much like medical decisions, schooling decisions, etc. the parents are responsible for the upbringing of their children and make many decisions for their children while they are in their care and living under their roof, even if the kids don't like them..... all the way up until they're officially an adult. Religion is one of these things.
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Baptists are Protestants.
Immersion baptism was once the norm. It was the way that the early Christians were baptised. Baptists thus believe that they are performing the only true form of Christian baptism.
The 1689 Baptist Catechism states: "Baptism is rightly administered by immersion, or dipping the whole body of the person in water, in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit"
The fact that Catholicism only wets the baby's head during baptism is another example of why Catholicism is not the true Christian faith and why the Protestants - those protesting against the wrong path that Catholicism has chosen - sprung up in the first place.
What a load of rubbish.
The opposite is true. Bringing up children with no faith whatsoever is child abuse.
Immersion baptism was once the norm. It was the way that the early Christians were baptised. Baptists thus believe that they are performing the only true form of Christian baptism.
The 1689 Baptist Catechism states: "Baptism is rightly administered by immersion, or dipping the whole body of the person in water, in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit"
The fact that Catholicism only wets the baby's head during baptism is another example of why Catholicism is not the true Christian faith and why the Protestants - those protesting against the wrong path that Catholicism has chosen - sprung up in the first place.
What a load of rubbish.
The opposite is true. Bringing up children with no faith whatsoever is child abuse.
Thanks Wally for proving, once again, the dangers of religious indoctrination on the young. We can see here that such forms of child abuse also causes brain damage that they never recover from.
I wouldn't know. Never did that. And I was on a snowmobile and straight when hit by the logging truck.