Justin Trudeau says abortion rights trump MPs' freedom to vote their conscience

El Barto

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Sometimes there is real anger/vitriol there too. Not perhaps as vehement as some, but sometimes it is there.
Sure just like pretty much everyone else, even tho they claim to keep a cool head.
Some are all about anger just look at their long line of topics and name calling of the people pointed out.
 

CDNBear

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Sure just like pretty much everyone else, even tho they claim to keep a cool head.
Some are all about anger just look at their long line of topics and name calling of the people pointed out.
Anger does not need to be the basis of making an observation.
 

SLM

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Sure just like pretty much everyone else, even tho they claim to keep a cool head.
Some are all about anger just look at their long line of topics and name calling of the people pointed out.

I'm not talking about the back and forth between members here. I'm talking about reading between the lines (the nuances) on how someone feels, deep down, about a topic or an issue. And really it's not my intention to single anyone out in this way either, so perhaps it's best to just drop it.
 

El Barto

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Anger does not need to be the basis of making an observation.
ummm huh?

I'm not talking about the back and forth between members here. I'm talking about reading between the lines (the nuances) on how someone feels, deep down, about a topic or an issue. And really it's not my intention to single anyone out in this way either, so perhaps it's best to just drop it.
Neither was I. Exactly.
I wasn't singling anyone out , it was a general statement.
 

SLM

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Neither was I. Exactly.
I wasn't singling anyone out , it was a general statement.

Okay fair enough, but I think we're talking about different kinds of "anger". At least from what you've expressed, I sense you're talking about the more overt kind, what present in the words themselves, the outright statements. We can all have and express those feelings about a great number of topics.

But what I mean is that there are times when I'll read some posts and there is a subtlety to them, just a hint of what is true deep down inside someone. Maybe they don't intend to reveal it, but it's there. Sometimes it can be almost a little frightening.
 

El Barto

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Okay fair enough, but I think we're talking about different kinds of "anger". At least from what you've expressed, I sense you're talking about the more overt kind, what present in the words themselves, the outright statements. We can all have and express those feelings about a great number of topics.

But what I mean is that there are times when I'll read some posts and there is a subtlety to them, just a hint of what is true deep down inside someone. Maybe they don't intend to reveal it, but it's there. Sometimes it can be almost a little frightening.
Oh I see that often, I wouldn't say frightening , more ... sickening.
 

SLM

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Anger does not need to be the basis of making an observation.

Exactly. Nor does presenting a counter-argument to a statement made. In fact, presenting a counter argument doesn't even mean you hold a position in direct opposition to the person you're communicating with either. But that seems to almost always be the supposition here.

It's both curious and yet dismaying just how quickly everything settles into a 'black/white' parlance.

Oh I see that often, I wouldn't say frightening , more ... sickening.

I don't know about 'often', there are a lot of members here that I do take more at face value because they conduct themselves in a manner, whether I agree with their assertions or not, that is consistent and sincere.
 

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Carter was before assimilation and compliance was complete. Virtually every western institution has its gang of friends of Israel all pumping the bellows for war because without war there is no Israel.

In politics all you need is a good PR machine, not a record.

That's why the Sionist pigs bought the mass media.
 

darkbeaver

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....and while we're at it, explain how Mitt Romney (a personal friend of Netanyahu) lost to a guy with the middle name Hussein....

Better optics, racial novelty, massive spewing of hope and change tunes in line with the novelty, Romney played opposition to the selected tool of the TPTB. While he did not become president you can bet he still won a great deal, no gear in the machinery of western governance does not turn in the great grease sump. We are not governed by politicians and haven't been for many hundreds of years. Why would the filthy rich ever have abandoned raw power? If you say because of the great democratic way then you're an idiot, they invented democracy. Look it up.
 

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Better optics, racial novelty, massive spewing of hope and change tunes in line with the novelty, Romney played opposition to the selected tool of the TPTB. While he did not become president you can bet he still won a great deal, no gear in the machinery of western governance does not turn in the great grease sump. We are not governed by politicians and haven't been for many hundreds of years. Why would the filthy rich ever have abandoned raw power? If you say because of the great democratic way then you're an idiot, they invented democracy. Look it up.
Oooh, so there's flaws in the Joo conspiracy.

Good to know.
 

darkbeaver

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Oooh, so there's flaws in the Joo conspiracy.

Good to know.

There is indeed flaws in the great and ancient conspiracy and you are one of those flawed elements, a mud brick at the base of a babbling tower, the crimes of war and murder can only be heaped so high and then it crumbles every time because every time the builders are restricted to use flesh and blood as the material, and there are laws which even the filthy rich may not break. Flesh is corruptible, every time it fails, and the tower crumbles again. Today is a repeat of the same old theater, it always ends the same way, it can't end any other way.
 

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There is indeed flaws in the great and ancient conspiracy and you are one of those flawed elements, a mud brick at the base of a babbling tower, the crimes of war and murder can only be heaped so high and then it crumbles every time because every time the builders are restricted to use flesh and blood as the material, and there are laws which even the filthy rich may not break. Flesh is corruptible, every time it fails, and the tower crumbles again. Today is a repeat of the same old theater, it always ends the same way, it can't end any other way.
Dear me, how on earth did we get into the fable of the Tower of Babble?? The different languages have nothing to do with flesh and blood, simply that the human race started small and broke off into even smaller tribes. Human language can change greatly over 50 years or so. When people cannot understand one another of course there will be problems.


Electing an MP is supposed to give a voice to the voters, not to the MP's Their votes are NOT supposed to be on the MP's religious beliefs, in fact it is not even supposed to be on their personal beliefs. They were elected to be the voters' voice. As far as abortion goes, it seems to me most people feel it should be left to the person who is undergoing the procedure and her doctor.


There was never the hullabaloo when vasectomies for men were became common but remember when birth control for women became the topic?? Was there ever the same turmoil when condoms became available for men??


Anyway, MP's were elected to serve their constituents and to carry out as best they can the will of those who elected them.