Bolshevik and Yanky cocksuckers - the clash of empires. Coming soon to Playstation 4. Obama can't leave office without a good proxy war. All bluff and no bluster. Everybody knows the end game would involve nukes, then nobody wins Jack. All this is smoke screen and mirrors. What do they want you to not look at? Perhaps that ISIS is a Pentagon contractor? ISIS home page: https://public.isishq.com/public/SitePages/Home.aspx
Ukraine and Russia make progress on ceasefire
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Energy and farmland are hot commodities to save the world from global warming. This is the outcome of environmental panic to consume more NG and control food.
Agri-Giants are flexing NATO beef fed muscle while power and heating battle over NG.
Greens have no clue who they are backing.
GE and Cargill thank you for your support.
Agri-Giants are flexing NATO beef fed muscle while power and heating battle over NG.
Greens have no clue who they are backing.
GE and Cargill thank you for your support.
It's true. I'm not old enough to know the hate, maybe you grew up hearing about it. I'm stuck with reading about it. The Romans never came back and neither are the Soviets. Time has moved along.Eurasia Movement Interviews Boris Nad on Novorossiya
Bovdunov: How do you assess the current events in the east of Ukraine? What is the meaning of the current geopolitical conflict?
Nad: On the face of it this is a conflict between two nations – Ukrainian and Russian. At least that’s how it’s represented in the Western media. And that is, of course, deeply wrong. Western media have kept silent about, or are hiding the fact that “the Ukrainian nation” and “the Ukrainian state” actually has never really existed in history. It is no doubt a cheap media trick and ruthless manipulation.
The “Majdan” movement in Kiev showed the true face of the so-called Ukrainian national revolution: one in which pro-American and pro-NATO liberals are united with Ukrainian neo-Nazis, followers of Bandera. All this was made possible with the generous assistance from and organizing of the United States. After the coup in Kiev, quite expectedly, was followed by a campaign of terror against a large portion of the population of Ukraine.
In the former Ukraine today it is not a conflict between two nations, but titanic clash of two geopolitical poles (two, not three). These two poles are America, with its satellites, and Russia. There is no third party. The first force is on the side of the uniform, the liberal, and the totalitarian unipolar world, overt American hegemony; while the other – Russia, represents a multipolar world, with their very different
traditions; a multipolar world that is still in the making. In the conflict in Novorossia it is therefore possible to see its many dimensions: geopolitical, ideological, historical, ethnic, religious … but, in its deepest essence, it is an age-old conflict of the earth and the sea, land and ocean, of course in a new form. It’s just a new form of the ancient continents of the Great War, of which Alexander Dugin has spoken inspiringly.
Bovdunov: How important is the conflict in Novorossia for Europe? Is there a single position of European countries in relation to this conflict?
Nad: The war in Ukraine is of crucial importance for Europe. That is the war in Europe, for the real continental Europe, and not that liberal creation in Brussels, Maastricht and Lisbon, which is in reality a zone of US occupation in the territory of Eurasia. Unfortunately many Europeans are not aware of that. Those who are aware come to the forefront in defense Novorossia and support its heroic struggle, because it is not just a fight for freedom of Novorossia, but also the struggle for the freedom of Europe; for the freedom of diversity, for the continent, for the tradition, and against American liberal totalitarianism.
A single and clear position of European countries regarding the conflict in the former Ukraine does not exist for one obvious reason: The European Union is neither a sovereign nor an independent force, it is not an independent geopolitical factor, but only branches of the United States, and quite second-rate at that. All that the EU has done so far during on the crisis of the former Ukraine was to the detriment of Europe and Russia.
Because today the struggle of the Novorossian heroes is for all true Europeans, or at least those who do not want to be slaves to the “new world order” in the American way; it provides an example that should be followed.
Bovdunov: What are the interests of Europe with regard to Ukraine? What would be the most acceptable geopolitical reconfiguration of the space to Europe?
Nad: As we have already said, there is no such thing that could be called the “geopolitics of the European Union.” The European Union has failed to establish itself as a separate geopolitical factor, with their own interests that are different from the interests of the United States. We believe that this will change for the better in the future, but a necessary precondition for it is the further decline of American hegemony. Until then, the EU remains only as an American bridgehead on the ground of Eurasia, in fact it is the American occupation zone. This EU everywhere and always acts against the interests of Europe.
It is therefore not only necessary for there to be a geopolitical reconfiguration of the former Soviet space, but also geopolitical reconfiguration of the whole of Europe, including the European Union. In other words, the EU itself should begin with deep structural reform and questioning their own geopolitical role. It is necessary immediately but at present the European political elite, or rather pseudo-elite, is simply not capable. Just look at the role of Germany, which behaves as an American vassal. Germany today, however, is an occupied country.
As a first step, it is necessary to recognize the statehood of Novorossia, something which the West, for now, stubbornly refuses. The entire Ukraine is, after all, historically undoubtedly part of the “Russian world”, and so should remain so. Except maybe its western part, having primarily the mentality of Uniatic Galicia, which is a kind of transitional area towards Central Europe.
The future free continental Europe will have an overriding interest in a free and powerful Russia, and with an agreement with Russia. And that is the key to Europe’s future.
Bovdunov: Is Europe ready for a war in the case of more open Russian involvement in the military conflict?
Nad: Not even NATO is prepared to enter into an open war with Russia over Ukraine. Engagement of the North Atlantic alliance therefore boils down to supplying the Kiev Junta with arms, mercenaries and military advisers; but as you can see it is not enough to decide the outcome of the war. They failed to break Novorossian desire for freedom.
The American position is much clearer: they are willing to take the war to the last Ukrainian, and the last European. And both of them here are intended to be “cannon fodder”.
Bovdunov: What is the impact of the war on relations between Russia and Europe? – How can we evaluate the ideological component of a new war in Europe? Why do you think in the case of the Ukrainian side there are battalions of National Socialists sponsored by Jewish oligarchs, and in the case of the rebels are fighting alongside each other nationalists, Orthodox traditionalists and people nostalgic for the Soviet Union?
Nad: America’s interest is to provoke and deepen the rift between Europe and Russia, and that from an American perspective, is one of the main goals of the war which is now dominant in the former Ukraine. A balanced position from the Kremlin has contributed to the fact that the split does not become insurmountable, of course provided that the EU does not follow unquestioningly in its the future course the dictates of Washington. EU would have to take a much more independent position.
The alliance of Ukrainian Nazis and Ukrainian oligarchs is an obvious fact. On the other hand, the uprising that began in eastern Ukraine has an obvious social dimension: it is among other things, the uprising of the people against the oligarchs, against a deep social injustice and corruption, which embodies the Kievan junta. In our opinion, an alliance of traditionalists and nationalists with the Communists, or those who harbor nostalgia for the USSR, ostensibly left and ostensibly right is natural and desirable. In a sense, that is the concretization of Eurasianism, the embodiment of the “fourth theory,” the “fourth way”.It is interesting that something similar is happening in Europe, where there is a very broad, ideologically and politically diverse front supporting Russia and Novorossia. In short, all those today who are opposed to American, Western hegemony, NATO, liberalism, etc., naturally supports the Novorossia fight for freedom. Those who are on the side of the Kiev junta are fighting for the United States and its planetary hegemony.
Bovdunov: Why in the case of Ukraine was the idea of a “third way” used as a tool of global hegemony? Do you share this position? Is it possible to carry out some historical analogy to the current conflict?
Nad: First, the position of the ideologues of “Right sector” is openly racist: a commonplace scheme of “The right sector” and its followers. “Ukrainians” are civilized “Europeans”, “white”; Russians are “Asians”, “yellow”, “barbarians”, or simply “subhuman”. And there can be found many historical analogies. Basically, though in a veiled way, that’s the official position of America and the European Union, which now as before marks a profound and pathological Russophobia.
The idea of a “third way” of Ukraine, Ukraine aside from the “West” – America, and the “East” – Russia, is just as meaningless. See what it leads to in practice. Kiev Junta, subjecting/subordinating to Washington, alone abolished the Ukrainian sovereignty and destroyed the Ukrainian statehood. The authorities in Kiev and the so-called “Ukrainian nationalists” are merely “useful idiots” of the West.
So there is no “third way” or “third pole” in the modern geopolitical conflict, nor can there be. There are only two: the Land and Sea, and Russia an
Screw off you war mongering neanderthal... The only reason we haven't had a 9/11 or a 7/7 on our soil is because of our history of being relatively peaceful and staying out of wars we don't belong in. Thank Trudeau for that.
We also don't need to be spending trillions of dollars on military expenditures in detriment to our standard of living.
They would rather be known as the scrotum of Iceland (I mean that in the kindest of terms)
Europe is a collection of broken vassal states. Eurasian autonomy can free Europe from the Zionist Empires scourge.
Precisely, and if we are lucky enough to wreck our economy quickly enough we won't have enough gas in the tank to get across the pond to help make things even worse. Besides the farmers in the Dakotas have discovered the internet and are now following the Canadian weather channel for storms like the one coming through Alberta at the start of this week. -1 mean the dog poop is stiff, what it does when it hits GOM air is a different story. How does that saying go, 'Better there than here.'?
Let's hope we aren't dead cattle come the first spring.
Let's hope we aren't dead cattle come the first spring.
I see no good reason not to wreak the crooked economy since it's plainly about the business of wreaking us little people. Fukk the economy first.
Well that was one of the limpest cease fires ever suggested, and that's all it was, a suggestion of a ceasefire. Ukraine is split forever now.
Well that was one of the limpest cease fires ever suggested, and that's all it was, a suggestion of a ceasefire. Ukraine is split forever now.
Knowing it is coming isn't an invitation to help it on it's way. It works better when their own creation begins to feed on the wrong 'party'. If Murphy can get through the best laid plans of mice and men (men and the next level of being) then IAM makes thinks look just too slick to even be possible to even be planned let alone carried out to perfection, yet, . . . . game/set/match in one stroke (with a bent up putter)
Is this the European version of ISIS?
https://public.isishq.com/public/SitePages/Home.aspx
Is this the European version of ISIS?
https://public.isishq.com/public/SitePages/Home.aspx
How wise is it to use the very same equipment that was being threatened to use on Iran? With Russia spending their loot on drones and nuclear capable delivery vehicles the invasion by artillery with precision munitions (guided to target by on ground targeting) rather than attack choppers which are easily targeted by hand-held aiming devices, that was a few years ago and drone interception is a work in progress for both sides. Russia has said it's R&D for the military is going in that direction and if it is possible to steer a shell to a phone then a drone could hold 100 or more bomblets that could be matched to some 'warm target' and the selection could take a few hours and the delivery vehicle comes in for one quick stealthy pass and the mission is complete. If the fuel tank of a truck could be picked then a whole convoy could be removed even when it takes evasive action that prevents clustering together.
ISIS in Africa is given a piece of sharp metal and some food and a cot for their 12th birthday.
The ones with money will be easy to spot, they will be the ones lagging behind while thinking safety is just over the next horizon. (it is the longer path to safety, safety is found by being willing to share your last sandwich with a stranger just before certain death comes for both of you.) For me Yellowstone would be the closest disaster and the 'normal damage radian' is a few miles south of here. Pick up some beer and watch it not make it all the way or run away in the other direction where it takes certain death a few years to catch me.
Dieing while fleeing because I was doing 118 in a 110 zone would be a better ending for me if I become part the panic stricken.
forgot this link
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140907/192...ames-NATO-Countries-that-Agree-to-Supply.html
ISIS in Africa is given a piece of sharp metal and some food and a cot for their 12th birthday.
It would be nice if they left the lights on as there is enough talent and spare parts to keeps things going as it is but with a 90% unemployment rate. As long as everybody goes for one meal a day rather than some get 10 meals a day and 9 get 0. If not we would be lucky to enter an ice-age as we could just freeze the bodies rather than have to bury them, messy either way but not as bad as the sun being blocked out by flocks of flies, for days at a time. If we had our act together the 90% could be at 9% for about 20 years and then all the heavy equipment would need major repairs so the only new things would be light energy users and the unemployed is back to 90% but everybody is busy enjoying the 'free things'.
The ones with money will be easy to spot, they will be the ones lagging behind while thinking safety is just over the next horizon. (it is the longer path to safety, safety is found by being willing to share your last sandwich with a stranger just before certain death comes for both of you.) For me Yellowstone would be the closest disaster and the 'normal damage radian' is a few miles south of here. Pick up some beer and watch it not make it all the way or run away in the other direction where it takes certain death a few years to catch me.
Dieing while fleeing because I was doing 118 in a 110 zone would be a better ending for me if I become part the panic stricken.
forgot this link
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140907/192...ames-NATO-Countries-that-Agree-to-Supply.html
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If this is a version of what Russia exports (along with the original flight downing summary) these will be easy to spot and hard to fake So far this short one says a lot of things, not looking good in the money war dept and that is the end of the US being a threat to anybody except ourselves.
Why the US Govt. needs a major war in Europe – ENG SUBS - YouTube
Why the US Govt. needs a major war in Europe – ENG SUBS - YouTube
Western Sanctions to Boost Russian Industry Development: Kremlin Administration Head | Russia | RIA Novosti
MOSCOW, September 21 (RIA Novosti) - Western sanctions could spur the development of Russian industry and the cooperation of Moscow with other nations, the head of the Kremlin administration Sergei Ivanov said in an interview published Sunday.
"In the defense [industry], and in other industries, the imposed sanctions could be a powerful incentive for our industries to take more active part in their own development, as well as in cooperation with the countries, which have not previously seen this cooperation," Ivanov said in an interview to Rossiyskaya Gazeta newspaper.
The official argued that the "shock therapy", experienced by some of the Russian industries due to the sanctions, could benefit them by making them search for new ways of development.
"Where the [food] products, the most crucial topic for the people, are concerned, I can see no possibility for our grocery shelves to become empty," he added.
The head of the presidential administration ironically added that the affluent Russian consumers of Western-made delicatessen can afford to fly to Europe to buy ones.
MOSCOW, September 21 (RIA Novosti) - Western sanctions could spur the development of Russian industry and the cooperation of Moscow with other nations, the head of the Kremlin administration Sergei Ivanov said in an interview published Sunday.
"In the defense [industry], and in other industries, the imposed sanctions could be a powerful incentive for our industries to take more active part in their own development, as well as in cooperation with the countries, which have not previously seen this cooperation," Ivanov said in an interview to Rossiyskaya Gazeta newspaper.
The official argued that the "shock therapy", experienced by some of the Russian industries due to the sanctions, could benefit them by making them search for new ways of development.
"Where the [food] products, the most crucial topic for the people, are concerned, I can see no possibility for our grocery shelves to become empty," he added.
The head of the presidential administration ironically added that the affluent Russian consumers of Western-made delicatessen can afford to fly to Europe to buy ones.
Did money falling from the sky help America?
Russia can feed her own people. Russia can house her own people in the coldest of winters. Russia has what Europe needs and it won't be gifted to them nor will Europe get the good via war. Rest assured even if Europe dropped the sanctions the USD is still going out of business as the world reserve currency, so much for America being able to act like the middle men that is the bankers domain. The US is their puppet and not all that valuable to them. They would actually get some good points from the rest of the world and they need that more than the need America.
The sanctions ended exploration, it doesn't effect current production nor does it make customers scarce. Europe better hope the gas they need isn't held in reserve for a different customer.
No headlines out of Crimea means they are doing just fine, anything the US touches tuns bad for decades.
Russia can feed her own people. Russia can house her own people in the coldest of winters. Russia has what Europe needs and it won't be gifted to them nor will Europe get the good via war. Rest assured even if Europe dropped the sanctions the USD is still going out of business as the world reserve currency, so much for America being able to act like the middle men that is the bankers domain. The US is their puppet and not all that valuable to them. They would actually get some good points from the rest of the world and they need that more than the need America.
The sanctions ended exploration, it doesn't effect current production nor does it make customers scarce. Europe better hope the gas they need isn't held in reserve for a different customer.
No headlines out of Crimea means they are doing just fine, anything the US touches tuns bad for decades.
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It did? They can?
RUSSIA
Food imports ban backfires on Russia's economy
An embargo on food imports from the West has sent grocery prices in Russia soaring and greatly worsened inflation. The move is seen as a severe blow to the country's stagnating economy.
Food imports ban backfires on Russia′s economy | Europe | DW.DE | 29.08.2014
RUSSIA
Food imports ban backfires on Russia's economy
An embargo on food imports from the West has sent grocery prices in Russia soaring and greatly worsened inflation. The move is seen as a severe blow to the country's stagnating economy.
Food imports ban backfires on Russia′s economy | Europe | DW.DE | 29.08.2014
Yes they can, afraid to do your own research?
Are Russians worried about the new sanctions? Not so much | Public Radio International
But that doesn't mean the sanctions are likely to work. “Of course they’re damaging to the Russian economy,” Sonin says. “But the damage won’t be immediate, so an ordinary Russian citizen would not see any kind of effect in his or her daily life."
When asked about the round of new sanctions, Russians in Moscow’s VDNKh Park (which translates as the "Exhibition of Achievements of the People's Economy") react with equal doses of resolve and resentment.
“It’s unfair. No one loves Russia except for Russians themselves,” says Yulia, a government worker. Another woman, Olga, says people in the US and Europe are uninformed. “Russia has nothing to do with Ukraine,” she says, adding that she follows events about Ukraine on Russian TV.
A student named Vika, who wears a New York Yankees baseball cap, says, “These sanctions will go nowhere. In place of Europe, we’ll have other partners.”
They’re not alone. Recent independent polls suggest some 60 percent of Russians remain unconcerned about the impact of the sanctions, though observers say that could change. In fact, the only people here who seemed even remotely worried were two guys in bathing trunks, Sevold and Nikolai. They’re former soldiers turned Siberian husky dog traders.
Even if the sanctions hurt, Nikolai tells me, Russian officials won’t back down: “Just like they didn’t for Hitler and Napoleon. Russians are hardheaded that way.”
Are Russians worried about the new sanctions? Not so much | Public Radio International
But that doesn't mean the sanctions are likely to work. “Of course they’re damaging to the Russian economy,” Sonin says. “But the damage won’t be immediate, so an ordinary Russian citizen would not see any kind of effect in his or her daily life."
When asked about the round of new sanctions, Russians in Moscow’s VDNKh Park (which translates as the "Exhibition of Achievements of the People's Economy") react with equal doses of resolve and resentment.
“It’s unfair. No one loves Russia except for Russians themselves,” says Yulia, a government worker. Another woman, Olga, says people in the US and Europe are uninformed. “Russia has nothing to do with Ukraine,” she says, adding that she follows events about Ukraine on Russian TV.
A student named Vika, who wears a New York Yankees baseball cap, says, “These sanctions will go nowhere. In place of Europe, we’ll have other partners.”
They’re not alone. Recent independent polls suggest some 60 percent of Russians remain unconcerned about the impact of the sanctions, though observers say that could change. In fact, the only people here who seemed even remotely worried were two guys in bathing trunks, Sevold and Nikolai. They’re former soldiers turned Siberian husky dog traders.
Even if the sanctions hurt, Nikolai tells me, Russian officials won’t back down: “Just like they didn’t for Hitler and Napoleon. Russians are hardheaded that way.”
Prices always rise when a product is scarce. The poor and the rich will both be out of some product that are not staple supplies, they are 'luxury items' and the West is already compensating farmers for the crops that now have no buyers. The rate I saw was about 10% of the total value lost. There was a tomato food fight because there are now no buyers for those items. Whose ecomony did that hurt, it certainly wasn't Russia.
Russian ban on food imports to cost EU €5 billion annually
A Game of Russian Roulette? The West's Dangerous Sanctions Play against Russia | The National Interest
French farmers hurt by Russian bans, wettest summer in 55 years | Reuters
The French economy already faces zero growth.
"Whether in grains, milk or fruit and vegetables, we have prospects of reduced income that could prompt a cut in investment and jobs," said Thierry Pouch, head of research at farming advisory body APCA.
Some of these may not be filled again after the ban is lifted if Russia finds new food suppliers, he added.
Russia imposed restrictions on food imports in early August in retaliation for Western sanctions over Moscow's actions in Ukraine. The country imported 1.2 billion euros ($1.6 billion) of French agricultural products last year, official data showed.
The overall impact could prove far higher than the loss of exports alone, farmers said, as the resulting oversupply lowers prices across Europe.
Russia's pork ban imposed earlier this year for veterinary reasons illustrates this. The direct loss was put at 150 million euros annually, but estimates now peg the overall cost at half a billion euros, Beulin said.
Lower grain-based feed prices this year could help livestock farmers, but that needs to be set against a 17-percent drop in beef prices over the past year.
Following Food Ban, Russia Moving On From Europe - Forbes
Following last week’s order from Moscow to sanction European food imports, Russia is now turning to Brazil, New Zealand and even China is courting them.
“This (ban) could provide a major opportunity for Latin American economies, especially for Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Ecuador, Paraguay and Uruguay,” said Robert Wood, an analyst for The Economist Intelligence Unit. Last week, Wood wrote for his subscribers that Russian companies have agreed to “generous business deals” with agribusiness power houses Argentina and Brazil.
In Moscow this week Russian agriculture official Sergei Dankvert held meetings with diplomats from several Latin American countries, including Argentina and Brazil, to discuss replacing European imports of chicken, beef and other food items. Dankvert said the government would lift restrictions on importing meat, fish and produce effective immediately, which doubled the number of meat packing facilities permitted to sell to Russia. For their part, Brazilian officials were the most enthusiastic. The country is the world’s largest beef and chicken exporter, and the thought of replacing European companies on long term supply contracts is a positive in an economy that’s been full of negatives.
Awe, can't find any comparative links that support the West is 'winning'
Canadian pork loses $500-million Russian market | Toronto Star
Russia’s ban on imported food will hit Canada’s pork industry hard, closing a market worth more than $500 million to farmers and processors this year, and potentially stranding hundreds of containers of meat already on the high seas.
Industry members said they would work with Canadian officials to find alternate markets for their products, while also condemning Russia’s response to sanctions over the conflict in Ukraine.
“Canadian pork producers understand this is not simply a trade dispute and are disappointed by the Russian action,” the Canadian Pork Council said in a statement. “This is an unwelcome market disruption in one of our more than 100 country markets around the world.”
Russia announced the restrictions Thursday on foods imported from the U.S., Europe, Canada and other countries that have imposed sanctions against it, and also threatened to target the automotive, shipping and aerospace industries in the future.
Canada exported $1.7 billion worth of goods to Russia in 2012, led by food, including pork and crustaceans, according to a government of Canada report.
“It’s not good for agriculture in general. And it’s definitely not good for the pork industry,” said David Sparling, an agri-food professor at Western University’s Ivey Business School.
Russia's food ban hits farmers in the West where it hurts
Washington: Russian diners will not be able to find creamy Dutch cheeses or juicy Polish apples in the grocery store or cook up chicken from the United States — the result of a Russian ban on most food imports from the West.
Although the US, Canada and the European Union together will take more than a $17.5 billion hit from the one-year ban, Russian consumers may feel it more than Western farmers.
Jason Furman, the chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, shrugged off the import ban's impact as negligible, in contrast to Western sanctions on Russian individuals, businesses and economic sectors that he said have sent investors fleeing Russia and made a weak Russian economy even weaker.
(wonder how the affected producers take the who gives a fuk about the producers attitude)
Guess who gets hurt with Russia's foreign food ban | GlobalPost
"We are pretty dependent on imports, especially in agriculture,” he said.
Russia has come a long way since the early 1990s, when stores were largely empty except for mammoth jars of pickled tomatoes and a few soil-spotted potatoes. That and the cases of frozen chicken quarters known as “nozhki Busha,” or “Bush legs,” because they were President George H.W. Bush’s aid package.
Now there are sushi bars and supermarkets stocked with everything from Australian lamb to French cheese and Polish apples. Even pet food is largely imported.
The ban specifically omits baby food, alcohol and any products Russians personally buy abroad.
That could bring a return to the hungry days following the Soviet collapse, when people came back from trips to Europe with brimming shopping bags filled with produce.
Russian authorities have been at pains to say they will make sure Russians don't suffer by importing food from friendlier countries.
“China has it all,” said Alexander Lukin, rector of the Russian Foreign Ministry’s Diplomatic Academy, according to Ekho Moskvy. “We can get everything from them, from apples to space technology.”
Argentina can supply meat, he added, replacing imports from Australia.
“Australia has shot itself in the foot,” he said.
Australia supplied more than $400 million worth of agricultural produce to Russia last year, including more than $300 million in meat, the Australian newspaper reported. Aussie producers are worried about the effects on their industry, and also fear that New Zealand will “get a leg in” the Russian market.