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Prove it. There hasn't been an English Navy since 1707.

This is a picture taken by a BBC correspondent...



Just look at it explode... That was the largest historical explosion before Hiroshima
 

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Yeah. That proves it. It WAS one hit. I mean, you can't argue with that picture, can you?


How many more hits do you think it would sustain?

Well, if you want to count the target practice from the Bismark gunners when they were shooting and debris, it might be 7 or 8... Hell, who am I kidding, there was no debris, the Hood sank to the bottom of the ocean in record time... Fastest time for a ship to sink on record
 

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And it wasn't just the Bismarck that sank the Hood.


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-- EVENTS -- World War II in the Atlantic --
Battle of the Atlantic, 1939-1941 --

Battle of the Denmark Strait, 24 May 1941

In the early morning hours of 24 May 1941, the German battleship Bismarck and cruiser Prinz Eugen steamed southwesterly through the Denmark Strait, shadowed by the British heavy cruisers Suffolk and Norfolk. Shortly before 6AM, Prinz Eugen, which was ahead of Bismarck, sighted ships to the southeast. These were the Royal Navy's battlecruiser Hood, long the world's largest warship, and battleship Prince of Wales, a new ship that was not yet properly "shaken down".

The British capital ships soon opened fire with their forward turrets, while rapidly closing the range. Hood initially fired her fifteen-inch guns at Prinz Eugen. Her consort, which carried fourteen-inch guns, shot at Bismarck, but neither made hits. As the British began a turn to bring their after turrets to bear, the two Germans opened fire at Hood, whose identity was clearly apparent. Bismarck's fifteen-inch guns, and the much smaller eight-inchers of Prinz Eugen, soon found the range and started hitting. Fire broke out amidships on Hood, and at a minute past Six, immediately after Bismarck's fourth salvo arrived, the great battlecruiser's after ammunition magazines exploded in a jet of flame and a large cloud of smoke. Hood's bow rose as her shattered after hull filled with water, and she was soon gone, leaving but three survivors of her crew of over 1400 officers and men.

The Germans shifted fire to Prince of Wales, making three 15" and four 8" hits that seriously damaged the British ship. She was troubled throughout the action by gun functioning problems, but still managed to hit Bismarck with three shells before her own damage forced her to turn away and break off the battle. One of the three British 14" projectiles hit Bismarck's hull forward, flooding some of the German ship's bow compartments. Another hit low and amidships, bringing more water into the ship. This damage, though hardly vital, left Bismarck listing to port, down at the bow and unable to use all her oil fuel. Her maximum speed, seakeeping ability and range were all reduced, and she was now leaving an oil slick in her wake. The third shell, which struck high and amidships, made it impossible for Bismarck to launch her floatplane.

The brief Battle of the Denmark Strait, which lasted only about seventeen minutes from opening shot to "cease fire", caused the Germans to terminate Bismarck's sortie. After parting ways with Prinz Eugen later in the day, she turned southeast, toward France. The British, who already had sufficient cause to want Bismarck eliminated, now had an additional motive: revenge for the tragic loss of Hood and nearly all of her crew.
 

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The Hood, along with the other 8 or 9 British ships tried, in vain, to scare-off the Bismark.. As you English soon learned, the German Navy does not turn about and surrender like a mincey little Nancy-boy.

In turn, when they decided they had enough of the ineffective bombardment from 1/2 the British Navy, none of which any of their salvoes even came close, the German Captain ordered that only one projectile be loaded in the 15 inch guns.

Before the order to fire was given, the Captain rang the lunch bell and asked that all the men, excepting one inexperienced gunner go and have some schnitzel and dumplings.

The rest is history... One shot, perfectly placed and - BOOM - the Hood went to it's rest on the sea bottom in a record 45 seconds.

That is the fastest time for any boat to sink in the history of man
 

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Now and again, American inequality is on display to the world. We saw it after Hurricane Katrina and we have seen it again in the unrest in Ferguson, Missouri. A white police offer shoots dead a black man, after having stopped him for jaywalking. Britain’s police don’t have guns, so these scenes are unthinkable. But American-style inequality? We have plenty of that too, we’re just better at hiding it – as I say in my Telegraph column today.


I came across a striking fact while researching this piece: if Britain were to somehow leave the EU and join the US how would we rank? The answer is that we’d be the 2nd-poorest state in the union, poorer than Missouri. Poorer than the much-maligned Kansas and Alabama. Poorer than any state other than Mississippi, and if you take out the south east we’d be poorer than that too.


I’ve been asked to link to my source, but I’m afraid there’s no study to point to. It’s original research. But it’s also a fairly straightforward calculation. You take the US figures for GDP per state (here), divide it by population (here) to come up with a GDP per capita figure. Then get the equivalent figure for Britain: I used the latest Treasury figures (here) which also chime with the OECD’s (here). A version of this has been done on Wikipedia, but with one flaw: when comparing the wealth of nations, you need to look at how far money goes. This means using a measure called Purchasing Power Parity (PPP).


When this is done, the league table looks like the below. I’ve put some other countries in for comparison.




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This is a picture taken by a BBC correspondent...



Just look at it explode... That was the largest historical explosion before Hiroshima

It doesn't prove it sank with one hit, which it didn't.


As you English soon learned, the German Navy does not turn about and surrender like a mincey little Nancy-boy.

They did in Scapa Flow in 1918, when they surrendered all 74 ships of their High Seas Fleet to the British.
 

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Why Britain is poorer than any US state, other than Mississippi » Spectator Blogs

Why is he even comparing a whole country to a mere US state? You could do such a thing with anything.

I mean, we could compare the US GDP per capita, or each of its states, with that of Gloucestershire or Hertfordshire or Norfolk or Kent and see how it fares. Berkshire's GDP per capita of $47,516 is higher than that of the vast majority of US states.

We could compare the GDP per capita of the US to each English region, or compare Alaska's GDP with London's. It's silly.

The article overlooks the fact that the place with the highest GDP per capita in the WORLD - yes, the entire WORLD - is west London (the boroughs of Brent, Ealing, Hammersmith & Fulham, Harrow, Hillingdon, Hounslow and Richmond upon Thames) which has a mind-boggling GDP per capita of $152,116 (PPP). So the people who live in that part of west London are far wealthier on average than the Yanks.

I also have an issue with the GDP (PPP) figures of US states in that Spectator article. They all seem a bit high. According to that article, Alaska is the richest state with a GDP (PPP) per capita of $80,741 yet, according to the OECD, the richest US state is actually Delaware, with a GDP (PPP) per capita of just $59,591.

I'm a fan of The Spectator, but the figures in that article are suspect.

West London is the richest place on earth: List of OECD regions by GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(the US has five areas in the list of Top 20 GDPs per capita in the world; Britain has four; Canada only has one). There's a state you may want to digest.

It was one single, solitary shot.

No it wasn't, as I've already proved above.
 
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Why is he even comparing a whole country to a mere US state? You could do such a thing with anything.

I mean, we could compare the US GDP per capita, or each of its states, with that of Gloucestershire or Hertfordshire or Norfolk or Kent and see how it fares. Berkshire's GDP per capita of $47,516 is higher than that of the vast majority of US states.

The article overlooks the fact that the place with the highest GDP per capita in the WORLD - yes, the entire WORLD - is west London (the boroughs of Brent, Ealing, Hammersmith & Fulham, Harrow, Hillingdon, Hounslow and Richmond upon Thames) which has a mind-boggling GDP per capita of $152,116 (PPP). So the people who live in that part of west London are far wealthier on average than the Yanks.

I also have an issue with the GDP (PPP) figures of US states in that Spectator article. They all seem a bit high. According to that article, Alaska is the richest state with a GDP (PPP) per capita of $80,741 yet, according to the OECD, the richest US state is actually Delaware, with a GDP (PPP) per capita of $59,591.



No it wasn't, as I've already proved above.

Because they are about the same size an have about the same GDP.
 

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Why is he even comparing a whole country to a mere US state? You could do such a thing with anything.

It was done on a per capita basis and compared it against teh most impoverished States in the USA.

You got burned soooo bad on this

No it wasn't, as I've already proved above.

Any ballistics and ordinances expert will tell you it was one single shot.

Even the BBC hung it's head in shame when the witnessed, first hand, the ease in which the Bismark decimated the Hood with that single salvo
 

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It was done on a per capita basis and compared it against teh most impoverished States in the USA.

You got burned soooo bad on this

Why is he even comparing a whole country to a mere US state? You could do such a thing with anything.

I mean, we could compare the US GDP per capita, or each of its states, with that of Gloucestershire or Hertfordshire or Norfolk or Kent and see how it fares. Berkshire's GDP per capita of $47,516 is higher than that of the vast majority of US states.

We could compare the GDP per capita of the US to each English region, or compare Alaska's GDP with London's. It's silly.

The article overlooks the fact that the place with the highest GDP per capita in the WORLD - yes, the entire WORLD - is west London (the boroughs of Brent, Ealing, Hammersmith & Fulham, Harrow, Hillingdon, Hounslow and Richmond upon Thames) which has a mind-boggling GDP per capita of $152,116 (PPP). So the people who live in that part of west London are far wealthier on average than the Yanks.

I also have an issue with the GDP (PPP) figures of US states in that Spectator article. They all seem a bit high. According to that article, Alaska is the richest state with a GDP (PPP) per capita of $80,741 yet, according to the OECD, the richest US state is actually Delaware, with a GDP (PPP) per capita of just $59,591.

I'm a fan of The Spectator, but the figures in that article are suspect.

West London is the richest place on earth: List of OECD regions by GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(the US has five areas in the list of Top 20 GDPs per capita in the world; Britain has four; Canada only has one). There's a state you may want to digest.


Any ballistics and ordinances expert will tell you it was one single shot.
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No, they wouldn't, unless they believe historical myths.
 

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"Deise jungs saugen"

"These guys suck."

True quote from a Bismark's cook after watching the Bismark obliterate the "Unsinkable" Brit flagship in one salvo.
 

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"Deise jungs saugen"

"These guys suck."

True quote from a Bismark's cook after watching the Bismark obliterate the "Unsinkable" Brit flagship in one salvo.


1) You've said the Hood was a battleship. It wasn't. It was a battle cruiser.
2) You said the Hood was sunk by one shot. It wasn't. It took several shots before it sank.
3) You said it took just one ship, the Bismarck, to sink the Hood. It didn't. It took two German ships - the Bismarck and the Prinz Eugen - to sink the Hood.

To put it simply, every single "historical fact" you have mentioned regarding the sinking of the Hood is completely and utterly wrong, and now you are trying to have me believe that the Germans used American slang.
 

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Why is he even comparing a whole country to a mere US state? You could do such a thing with anything.

I mean, we could compare the US GDP per capita, or each of its states, with that of Gloucestershire or Hertfordshire or Norfolk or Kent and see how it fares. Berkshire's GDP per capita of $47,516 is higher than that of the vast majority of US states.

We could compare the GDP per capita of the US to each English region, or compare Alaska's GDP with London's. It's silly.

The article overlooks the fact that the place with the highest GDP per capita in the WORLD - yes, the entire WORLD - is west London (the boroughs of Brent, Ealing, Hammersmith & Fulham, Harrow, Hillingdon, Hounslow and Richmond upon Thames) which has a mind-boggling GDP per capita of $152,116 (PPP). So the people who live in that part of west London are far wealthier on average than the Yanks.

I also have an issue with the GDP (PPP) figures of US states in that Spectator article. They all seem a bit high. According to that article, Alaska is the richest state with a GDP (PPP) per capita of $80,741 yet, according to the OECD, the richest US state is actually Delaware, with a GDP (PPP) per capita of just $59,591.

I'm a fan of The Spectator, but the figures in that article are suspect.

West London is the richest place on earth: List of OECD regions by GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(the US has five areas in the list of Top 20 GDPs per capita in the world; Britain has four; Canada only has one). There's a state you may want to digest.


Any ballistics and ordinances expert will tell you it was one single shot.
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Alaska is not overly populated and is basically resource based which means high productivity per person as opposed to citified areas where there is no production but lots of people sucking off the government teat and each other.

No, they wouldn't, unless they believe historical myths.
 

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Why is he even comparing a whole country to a mere US state? You could do such a thing with anything.

What part of this aren't you getting?

By comparing it to the poorest US State, it is providing the UK with the best possible comparison.

If you prefer, they can compare Britain to the wealthiest US State(s) in which case you'll look like a 3rd world nation after a combination of typhoons, earthquakes and fires that burn every city

No, they wouldn't

They already have.... This is the result of one shot from a superior naval force....



Learn from it, perhaps provide some basic training to your naval leadership and most of all take heed and think very carefully about any foolish notions of engaging any Navy.
 

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1) You've said the Hood was a battleship. It wasn't. It was a battle cruiser.
2) You said the Hood was sunk by one shot. It wasn't. It took several shots before it sank.
3) You said it took just one ship, the Bismarck, to sink the Hood. It didn't. It took two German ships - the Bismarck and the Prinz Eugen - to sink the Hood.

To put it simply, every single "historical fact" you have mentioned regarding the sinking of the Hood is completely and utterly wrong, and now you are trying to have me believe that the Germans used American slang.

It was also fighting along side the HMS Prince of Wales which upon seeing the Hood get spattered in one shot the Prince of Wales retreated. In fact it retreated so far and fast that it ended up in the South China Sea and was sunk quickly by the Japanese along with her hapless cousin HMS Repulse.

The Brit Navy was not heard from in the Pacific until the US was already finishing the Japanese off.

Why is he even comparing a whole country to a mere US state? You could do such a thing with anything.

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Be happy Blackie... you have a better GDP than Mississippi!