Founders were trendy deists who all but one were sworn in with their hand on the Bible. If no connection, none of those Presidencies would be valid.
Is the US a Christian country?
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Some were, some weren't.
Probably not true. Certainly the Supreme Court hasn't ruled on it, and I don't think the Constitution empowers you to rule on the issue.
The same court that used a Bible until recently to take an oath? These days an affidavit will do.
What sort of non-Christian country uses a Bible in court?
Are we still on this? What part of "it's definitional" do you not understand. I agreed with you. You can stop arguing now.
You'da been a hell of a football player. Bet you woulda scored 6000 touchdowns after the games were over.
Some do, the ones with any power don't. It isn't like the instructions are all that difficult to understand. Then again maybe it helps God on sorting day.
Jas:2:15-17:
If a brother or sister be naked,
and destitute of daily food,
And one of you say unto them,
Depart in peace,
be ye warmed and filled;
notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body;
what doth it profit?
Even so faith,
if it hath not works,
is dead,
being alone.
For the record God arranged it so all Gentiles are 'in Church' whether they want to be or not. As someone with some experienced with loop-holes do you see anyway that any Gentile could show he isn't in this group. Rome is mentioned by deed rather than name, that is to show it is for Gentiles rather than Jews. They have a different path to take when it gets close to salvation.
Re:1:7:
Behold,
he cometh with clouds;
and every eye shall see him,
and they also which pierced him:
and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.
Even so,
Amen.
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Lot of it has to do with the fact their ain't nothing organisational or governmental about Christianity.
You know I ain't a believer, MHz, but I read the bible, more'n once. It's absolutely clear that Jesus was talking about a personal relationship with God. End of. There's no such thing as a "Christian country" or a "Christian organisation."
At least and with that much Christianity embedded in Govt it's a Christian nation without Church doing admin.
Yes, petros. I agree, petros. By your definition of "Christian country," the U.S. is a Christian country.
That do it, or you gonna run for another thrilling post-gun touchdown?
Quit wasting time and answer my killer CFL trivia question. If you can.
The founders of the nation never specifically intended it to be. They evoked a separation
of church and state to hopefully ensure that one group could not dominate the agenda.
Every time religion dominates an agenda all kinds of evil follows as shown through the
pages of history. I also question the atheists they have a belief system that suggests
there should be no regard to believing in a belief system. If they profess such a belief
are they not a reverse religion?
of church and state to hopefully ensure that one group could not dominate the agenda.
Every time religion dominates an agenda all kinds of evil follows as shown through the
pages of history. I also question the atheists they have a belief system that suggests
there should be no regard to believing in a belief system. If they profess such a belief
are they not a reverse religion?
That's fine as there is no condemnation for that by me or by the Bible. You do have an appointed time though along with everyone else. The earliest anybody can 'be saved' is a few years before all sinners are sent to the grave (where they are safe) while a small portion of mankind gets to see that Garden area in Ge:2 be restored to it's former state. That would mean the Dead Sea get enough fresh water to dilute the salt content to where fresh water fish can exist there. That is the magnitude that God does things so if that is missing God isn't involved. Coming out of the grave is also a major point. In short, if you miss the 1st gathering (where Satan makes another appearance) then you are gathered at the Great White Throne and from there you step into the perfected earth and all that involves.
I've read it more than 100 times and many part probably close to 1,000 times. I also have close to a photographic memory so if I read it once I can find it again and have a 'general recall' of how the verse goes. I still look each up today when I'm referencing, first to get the actual quote because the whole book is so specific that this is the only method to put all the little parts together so they make a complete picture. I'm noy doing this to try and convert you because you are destined to be saved at some point just like every other person ever conceived and there is no 3rd group and no other paths available.
It's the Sabbath someplace in the world so this topic is appropriate I guess.
Spiritual enlightenment is knowledge, it won't extend you life a second, that is literally what happens with God. By the time we are all saved all be 'beings' that are in the rest of the Universe are taken to the place where the Great White Throne is and they stay there. The people of this earth then have the universe to explore over eternity. The verse version is somewhat longer for that but at the same time it is much more detailed so there is enlightenment but there is also physical reality and when the Bible says 4 fallen angels will kill 1/3 of all the people on earth it means 2.2B people will die if there is 6.66B people alive on the planet when that starts.
Rather than me fumble around here is an example of what nations come under judgement, again there is no way for any nation on earth to be on God's side. Finding the parts is much harder than understanding them once you have them before you. The list starts about 10 verses but this will do for now. The ones left out here would be valuable when reading Daniel:11 which covers the few years before the actual return.
Jer:25:26:
And all the kings of the north,
far and near,
one with another,
and all the kingdoms of the world,
which are upon the face of the earth:
and the king of Sheshach shall drink after them.
Jer:25:31:
A noise shall come even to the ends of the earth;
for the LORD hath a controversy with the nations,
he will plead with all flesh;
he will give them that are wicked to the sword,
saith the LORD.
Jer:25:32:
Thus saith the LORD of hosts,
Behold,
evil shall go forth from nation to nation,
and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.
Jer:25:33:
And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:
they shall not be lamented,
neither gathered,
nor buried;
they shall be dung upon the ground.
That would be the 'short answer' but because I said some things earlier I bolded a 2nd section and that bit would lead to Eze:39 and the burial verses where some are killed but their bones are gathered and buried. Those one end up in the fiery lake with Satan because the bodies belong to the 4 fallen angels that had manifested into the 200M horsemen that kill 1/3 of mankind. That's rather long so here it can be shown that the 2/3 that are killed and sent to the grave are punished with thirst, hunger and sorrow for the time they are there and then they are pardoned at the GWT because they have endured the punishment God sent on them. He can then view them as being sinless and that is saved for just before the new earth, which is how the chapter goes also beginning with the age lessons and how they will work for new ones that are born into that era.
Zec:13:8:
And it shall come to pass,
that in all the land,
saith the LORD,
two parts therein shall be cut off and die;
but the third shall be left therein.
Zec:13:9:
And I will bring the third part through the fire,
and will refine them as silver is refined,
and will try them as gold is tried:
they shall call on my name,
and I will hear them:
I will say,
It is my people:
and they shall say,
The LORD is my God.
Isa:65:12-17:
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called,
ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold,
my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Behold,
my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen:
for the Lord GOD shall slay thee,
and call his servants by another name:
That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth;
and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth;
because the former troubles are forgotten,
and because they are hid from mine eyes.
For,
behold,
I create new heavens and a new earth:
and the former shall not be remembered,
nor come into mind.
Granted it took me years to put all that together but it does show the text is one document and it is meant to have the story told by finding a bit of text here and a bit there. Key word searches would great. Day of the lord' will lead to 24 different passages that cover the same subject. Inhabitants of the earth always means the whole planet. Sooner or later there is nothing that doesn't fit that general pattern.
No. Atheism is not a belief system, it's the absence of one particular belief. Beyond that, atheists are as varied a group as any other in terms of what they DO believe and any agendas they might have, it's inaccurate to generalize about them like that.
You're making this way too easy. I like watching your brain wave patterns, I've never seen such a perfect straight line before
That's just it, it's not a particularly intelligent question as it's a melting pot of all religions and non religions.
Is Syria a Muslim country?
Three-quarters of all Yanks are Christians, meaning there are three times as many Christians in Yankeeland as all other religions put together.
Yankeeland was founded by Christians on Christian values.
It has a Christian heritage stretching back since it was founded; a Christan heritage which makes up the very fabric of the nation, as is evidenced in the half a million churches dotted around the country.
Yankeeland is a Christian nation and always has been.
Three-quarters of all Yanks are Christians, meaning there are three times as many Christians in Yankeeland as all other religions put together.
Yankeeland was founded by Christians on Christian values.
It has a Christian heritage stretching back since it was founded; a Christan heritage which makes up the very fabric of the nation, as is evidenced in the half a million churches dotted around the country.
Yankeeland is a Christian nation and always has been.