What an asinine post. Wrong as ever. The quote you used was Reagan describing the Contras in Nicaragua.
Reagan never had US troops in Afghanistan.
ISIS killed 500 Yazidis, buried some alive incl women and children - Iraq
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Technically the CIA is not 'troops'. You aren't claiming the CIA is bloodless in this are you? There Heroine is the finest in all the land. That's why there is so much singing in intensive care these days.
Frig, you've been living in California to long..
Go to Massachusetts, Vermont or New Hampshire. Liberal Cracker land.
Only in modern Britain could our major politicians be on holiday whilst the country is involved in a major foreign crisis.
As RAF C-130 Hercules planes drop Britain's second round of aid to northern Iraq, and now even British fighter jets have been sent to the region, what is David Cameron doing? He is on holiday in Portugal.
That would normally mean that our Deputy Prime Minister - the Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg - is in temporary charge of the country. But, believe it or not, he is also on holiday, visiting Spain with his Spanish wife Miriam and their children.
Oh, but that means we've got Home Secretary Theresa May running the country. Nope! She's also on holiday, too, going on a walking holiday in the Alps!
So, apparently, Britain is currently being run by Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond.
UK warplanes over Iraq: But as Britain's drawn deeper into crisis, holidaying PM won't recall MPs
Tornados to carry out surveillance and are capable of attacking with missiles
It is a major escalation of British involvement in fight against Islamic State
But David Cameron, Theresa May, Nick Clegg and William Hague all abroad
By Daniel Martin, Whitehall Correspondent
12 August 2014
RAF Tornados have been sent to Iraq - but holidaying PM won't recall MPs
David Cameron refused to break off his holiday and recall Parliament last night despite Britain deploying warplanes to Iraq.
In a significant escalation of UK involvement in the crisis, the bombers will take on surveillance and reconnaissance duties. The Tornados are also capable of attacking enemy targets with bombs and missiles.
Ministers have already pledged to consider supplying arms to Kurdish fighters battling against Islamic State fanatics.
Exodus: Yazidi families, fleeing violence from militant forces loyal to the Islamic State in the town of Sinjar, make their way towards the Syrian border with their belongings. British Tornado jets will soon fly over Iraq
Plight: Several ministers are on holiday (left) while Yazidi people flee the terror of Mount Sinjar in Iraq
The developments raise the prospect of Britain joining the US in taking a more active role – all at a time when the country’s leaders are on holiday.
The Prime Minister is in Portugal where officials insist he is in close touch with ministers and officials and is still running the country. His deputy, Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg, is in Spain.
Home Secretary Theresa May is on an Alpine break, and First Secretary of State William Hague, who has been Mr Cameron’s official deputy in previous summers, is also abroad.
It leaves Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond as the most senior minister in London, even though he has only been in his job for a month. However Downing Street defied mounting calls for MPs to return to work, insisting our role was solely humanitarian.
The sense of disarray at the heart of government intensified yesterday as Foreign Office minister Mark Simmonds stepped down less than a week after the resignation of Baroness Warsi over what she described as the Government’s ‘morally indefensible’ position on Gaza.
Britain dispatches second round of emergency aid for displaced Iraqis
Exhausted: A Yazidi baby rescued from the mountains of northern Iraq by Kurdish forces as thousands flee
Tent city: Thousands of refugees from Iraq are being housed at a temporary camp in Derike, Syria
Labour accused the Government of being ‘rudderless’ and former foreign secretary Jack Straw called for a concerted action.
‘One way or another, these maniacs, these medieval maniacs in the so-called Islamic State have got to be defeated,’ he said.
Number 10 said Mr Hammond was one of the most experienced ministers in government and had done sterling work in recent weeks. He chaired the emergency COBRA committee yesterday, which was attended by the new Defence Secretary Michael Fallon.
But Labour said the fact that three of the Foreign Office ministers had been in the office for a month or less meant the department lacked the expertise or experience to deal with simultaneous crises in Iraq, Gaza and Ukraine.
The party had to issue its statement though through junior foreign affairs spokesman John Spellar, because Labour leader Ed Miliband is also on holiday.
Mr Spellar said: ‘The new Foreign Secretary has now lost two ministers in just a few days.
‘At a time when the Foreign Office should be focused both on the crisis in Iraq and the situation in Gaza following the recent appalling violence there, David Cameron’s Government instead risks looking increasingly rudderless, and characterised by confusion.’ There were continued demands for a recall of Parliament to discuss the crisis in Iraq and for potential military action by British forces.
Departing minister Mr Simmonds told the Mail he would support further action to protect stricken communities in the north of Iraq.
‘If it is the collective international view that air strikes would be the best way to support the Kurds, then we should be supporting the Americans,’ he added.
‘We should be supporting the Americans in that way, but I’m not sure we should be putting troops on the ground.’
Mr Hammond dismissed the call, saying: ‘We don’t envisage a combat role at the present time.
‘We are talking at the moment about a humanitarian operation and using our assets to gain more awareness of what’s going on.’
Tory MPs Nick de Bois and David Burrowes have written to the Prime Minister urging the recall of Parliament to discuss the crises in Iraq and Gaza, while fellow Conservative Conor Burns said he wanted to send in special forces to assist Christians in Iraq.
Refuge: This group of children are among some 45,000 people so far to cross the Iraq-Syria border
Tired: A Yazidi child catches a brief moment of rest as she makes her way from Mount Sinjar to Syria
Former defence minister Andrew Robathan said it was ‘no good just sending aid’ – the ‘real solution’ was to stop IS fighters.
‘There are many ways one can use military action,’ he told the BBC’s World at One. ‘Air strikes, or indeed the use of [drones], from a suitable launch site, are ways that it can be done – dare one say it – surgically without putting troops on the ground.’
Two Sentinel spy planes are also being relocated to Jordan from Oman, making them available for operations in Iraq.
Lord Dannatt, the former army chief, warned the risk of a genocide unfolding meant further help should be considered, arguing that the UK shared ‘some culpability’ for the breakdown in Iraqi society.
Number 10 indicated that Britain may be willing to follow the example of the US in arming Kurdish forces. The Prime Minister’s spokesman insisted Mr Cameron was ‘very much engaged’ with the situation despite being abroad and a recall of Parliament was ‘not on the cards’.
In a further blow to the Prime Minister, Labour has jumped to a seven-point lead over the Tory party, according to a Guardian/ICM poll. Labour support has gone up five points over the past month to 38 per cent while the Conservatives have fallen by three to 31 per cent.
UK warplanes over Iraq, but holidaying PM David Cameron won't recall MPs | Mail Online
As RAF C-130 Hercules planes drop Britain's second round of aid to northern Iraq, and now even British fighter jets have been sent to the region, what is David Cameron doing? He is on holiday in Portugal.
That would normally mean that our Deputy Prime Minister - the Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg - is in temporary charge of the country. But, believe it or not, he is also on holiday, visiting Spain with his Spanish wife Miriam and their children.
Oh, but that means we've got Home Secretary Theresa May running the country. Nope! She's also on holiday, too, going on a walking holiday in the Alps!
So, apparently, Britain is currently being run by Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond.
UK warplanes over Iraq: But as Britain's drawn deeper into crisis, holidaying PM won't recall MPs
Tornados to carry out surveillance and are capable of attacking with missiles
It is a major escalation of British involvement in fight against Islamic State
But David Cameron, Theresa May, Nick Clegg and William Hague all abroad
By Daniel Martin, Whitehall Correspondent
12 August 2014
RAF Tornados have been sent to Iraq - but holidaying PM won't recall MPs
David Cameron refused to break off his holiday and recall Parliament last night despite Britain deploying warplanes to Iraq.
In a significant escalation of UK involvement in the crisis, the bombers will take on surveillance and reconnaissance duties. The Tornados are also capable of attacking enemy targets with bombs and missiles.
Ministers have already pledged to consider supplying arms to Kurdish fighters battling against Islamic State fanatics.
Exodus: Yazidi families, fleeing violence from militant forces loyal to the Islamic State in the town of Sinjar, make their way towards the Syrian border with their belongings. British Tornado jets will soon fly over Iraq
Plight: Several ministers are on holiday (left) while Yazidi people flee the terror of Mount Sinjar in Iraq
The developments raise the prospect of Britain joining the US in taking a more active role – all at a time when the country’s leaders are on holiday.
The Prime Minister is in Portugal where officials insist he is in close touch with ministers and officials and is still running the country. His deputy, Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg, is in Spain.
Home Secretary Theresa May is on an Alpine break, and First Secretary of State William Hague, who has been Mr Cameron’s official deputy in previous summers, is also abroad.
It leaves Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond as the most senior minister in London, even though he has only been in his job for a month. However Downing Street defied mounting calls for MPs to return to work, insisting our role was solely humanitarian.
The sense of disarray at the heart of government intensified yesterday as Foreign Office minister Mark Simmonds stepped down less than a week after the resignation of Baroness Warsi over what she described as the Government’s ‘morally indefensible’ position on Gaza.
Britain dispatches second round of emergency aid for displaced Iraqis
Exhausted: A Yazidi baby rescued from the mountains of northern Iraq by Kurdish forces as thousands flee
Tent city: Thousands of refugees from Iraq are being housed at a temporary camp in Derike, Syria
Labour accused the Government of being ‘rudderless’ and former foreign secretary Jack Straw called for a concerted action.
‘One way or another, these maniacs, these medieval maniacs in the so-called Islamic State have got to be defeated,’ he said.
Number 10 said Mr Hammond was one of the most experienced ministers in government and had done sterling work in recent weeks. He chaired the emergency COBRA committee yesterday, which was attended by the new Defence Secretary Michael Fallon.
But Labour said the fact that three of the Foreign Office ministers had been in the office for a month or less meant the department lacked the expertise or experience to deal with simultaneous crises in Iraq, Gaza and Ukraine.
The party had to issue its statement though through junior foreign affairs spokesman John Spellar, because Labour leader Ed Miliband is also on holiday.
Mr Spellar said: ‘The new Foreign Secretary has now lost two ministers in just a few days.
‘At a time when the Foreign Office should be focused both on the crisis in Iraq and the situation in Gaza following the recent appalling violence there, David Cameron’s Government instead risks looking increasingly rudderless, and characterised by confusion.’ There were continued demands for a recall of Parliament to discuss the crisis in Iraq and for potential military action by British forces.
Departing minister Mr Simmonds told the Mail he would support further action to protect stricken communities in the north of Iraq.
‘If it is the collective international view that air strikes would be the best way to support the Kurds, then we should be supporting the Americans,’ he added.
‘We should be supporting the Americans in that way, but I’m not sure we should be putting troops on the ground.’
Mr Hammond dismissed the call, saying: ‘We don’t envisage a combat role at the present time.
‘We are talking at the moment about a humanitarian operation and using our assets to gain more awareness of what’s going on.’
Tory MPs Nick de Bois and David Burrowes have written to the Prime Minister urging the recall of Parliament to discuss the crises in Iraq and Gaza, while fellow Conservative Conor Burns said he wanted to send in special forces to assist Christians in Iraq.
Refuge: This group of children are among some 45,000 people so far to cross the Iraq-Syria border
Tired: A Yazidi child catches a brief moment of rest as she makes her way from Mount Sinjar to Syria
Former defence minister Andrew Robathan said it was ‘no good just sending aid’ – the ‘real solution’ was to stop IS fighters.
‘There are many ways one can use military action,’ he told the BBC’s World at One. ‘Air strikes, or indeed the use of [drones], from a suitable launch site, are ways that it can be done – dare one say it – surgically without putting troops on the ground.’
Two Sentinel spy planes are also being relocated to Jordan from Oman, making them available for operations in Iraq.
Lord Dannatt, the former army chief, warned the risk of a genocide unfolding meant further help should be considered, arguing that the UK shared ‘some culpability’ for the breakdown in Iraqi society.
Number 10 indicated that Britain may be willing to follow the example of the US in arming Kurdish forces. The Prime Minister’s spokesman insisted Mr Cameron was ‘very much engaged’ with the situation despite being abroad and a recall of Parliament was ‘not on the cards’.
In a further blow to the Prime Minister, Labour has jumped to a seven-point lead over the Tory party, according to a Guardian/ICM poll. Labour support has gone up five points over the past month to 38 per cent while the Conservatives have fallen by three to 31 per cent.
UK warplanes over Iraq, but holidaying PM David Cameron won't recall MPs | Mail Online
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Fat pockets, the other side has them also and they notice that you noticed how fat their pockets are and now you are on a list.
imf/cia/nato/idf, not in that order
Gopherland and the Empire State are full of white liberals as well. Isn't funny how so many right wingers attack everyone whether it be the Clintons, the Kennedys, every college professor, every media source, as "liberal" and then pretend that it's only non whites that are liberal???
Funny indeed.
Wally is wrong yet again!
small wonder as he is the biggest reich wing jackazz in the forum
Anti-Gun, Pro-Gay, Pro-Welfare, PC'er to the max..
looks more like a log cabinite
Roll on little doggie ....
If he likes 'it' so much why is his belly so big he can't even see his own? On the other hand without the mustachio to act like a shock-absorber his jowls would look like waves riding up a beach. Oink, oink.
Anti-Gun, Pro-Gay, Pro-Welfare, PC'er to the max..
little orca
Not Quite. But one would need to know the history of the Taliban to understand who they are and how they came about.
But that would mean that you would have to give up the myth that Reagan (or the US) and the US supported the "Taliban" during the Soviet-Afghan War.
Wally is wrong yet again!
And you are as well... as these men were not the Taliban.
America has relations with lot's of questionable organizations, maybe it should wear condoms the next time, if it gets a next time.
I wish you would... I don't want your kind to bread, it would lower the quality of the human race even further than your parents already did..
The additional $1 billion which Saudi Arabia offered to the Lebanese army this week is not a gift but a political act that comes within the remit of curbing the current strife in Lebanon and its surroundings.
Saudi Arabia could have offered this financial aid to build up a Lebanese Sunni militia and would have had many reasons for doing so, from fighting the Sunni Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) to deterring the Shiite Hezbollah and Bashar al-Assad’s intelligence forces.
Instead, Saudi Arabia chose to support the army in Lebanon - a country full of Christian, Druze and Shiite militias. So why does Saudi Arabia support the army and not Ahmad al-Assir, Khaledk al-Daher or Adnan Imama and other Sunnis looking for a funder? It’s not in Saudi Arabia’s interest for Lebanon to turn into an arena for sectarian militias fighting each other on behalf of the region’s countries. It’s also not in the interest of Lebanon’s Sunnis and Shiites to support taking up arms and rebelling against the state. Despite assassinations and political mobilization, Lebanese public opinion remains mostly against resorting to arms, particularly following the destructive civil war that erupted in the 1970s. Therefore, the choice was made to support the Lebanese state and arm its military institution so the army can carry out its duties of protecting the Sunnis and the rest of the country’s factions. Let us recall that although Hezbollah has better arms and has had a fighting force for more than 30 years, it has failed to gain legitimacy despite its claim that it’s a resistance group and the guardian of Lebanon’s borders.
Strengthening the Lebanese army means weakening Hezbollah’s scheme to dominate Lebanon
Abdulrahman al-Rashed
It’s expected that supporting the army and strengthening it will anger groups such as Hezbollah. Hezbollah prefers the creation of Sunni militias so it can justify its existence as an armed Shiite militia. It prefers this scenario over strengthening the Lebanese army – something that can legitimately and militarily threaten it raison d’etre.
Standing against militias
Saudi Arabia has taken a decision against supporting the concept of militias, whether Sunni or Shiite, in Lebanon and other countries. It considers strengthening the state to be the correct option, not just for the Lebanese people, but for all the region’s countries which are concerned with establishing security. To respond to Saudi Arabia’s decision not to stand against legitimacy, Assad and the Iranian regime have since the 1980s invented religious Sunni leaders that compete with the civil Sunni leadership in order to hijack authority from leaders such as Karami, Solh and Hariri. Even Lebanon’s Sunni mufti, Mohammad Rashid Qabbani is rejected by Lebanon’s Sunnis because they consider him as an employee of the Assad regime! The Lebanese situation is similar to the Palestinian one as Fatah al-Islam, Hamas and the Islamic Jihad are linked to the Iranian and Syrian regimes.
Strengthening the Lebanese army means weakening Hezbollah’s scheme to dominate Lebanon and turn it into an Iranian emirate. It will enable the Lebanese to confront Sunni terrorist organizations which came running behind Hezbollah from Syria into Lebanon in this cat and mouse chase. The events in Arsal have proven the importance of having a strong army that stops the meddling of Hezbollah which sought to clash with Syrian groups under the Lebanese army’s flag. Military challenges at state level, from the events in Nahr al-Bared refugee camp to the recent events in Arsal, have proven that it’s not possible to trust Hezbollah and that the Lebanese people will not accept that any party besides the army defends their security.
However, strengthening the Lebanese army does not promise salvation from Hezbollah and other militias as this aim is impossible to achieve in the near future. The aim is to halt Hezbollah’s progress towards its goal of playing the role of the Syrian army, which was expelled from Lebanon after a UNSC decision following Syria’s involvement in the assassination of Hariri nine years ago. A strong Lebanese army will either weaken the militia’s justification that they should have a presence in the country or restrict their activity. In this case, Hezbollah will become a Shiite problem, and resolving it will be left to Lebanon’s Shiites.
This article was first published in Asharq al-Awsat on August 7, 2014.
Saudi Aramco and Mobil are developing Lebanese gas fields.
More cool sh-t.
IRAN of all people. The axle of evil blew blew a bearing?
Iran sends troops into Iraq to aid fight against Isis militants
Iran has sent 2,000 advance troops to Iraq in the past 48 hours to help tackle a jihadist insurgency, a senior Iraqi official has told the Guardian.
The confirmation comes as the Iranian president, Hassan Rouhani, said Iran was ready to support Iraq from the mortal threat fast spreading through the country, while the Iraqi prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki, called on citizens to take up arms in their country's defence.
Addressing the country on Saturday, Maliki said rebels from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isis) had given "an incentive to the army and to Iraqis to act bravely". His call to arms came after reports surfaced that hundreds of young men were flocking to volunteer centres across Baghdad to join the fight against Isis.
Saudi Arabia could have offered this financial aid to build up a Lebanese Sunni militia and would have had many reasons for doing so, from fighting the Sunni Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) to deterring the Shiite Hezbollah and Bashar al-Assad’s intelligence forces.
Instead, Saudi Arabia chose to support the army in Lebanon - a country full of Christian, Druze and Shiite militias. So why does Saudi Arabia support the army and not Ahmad al-Assir, Khaledk al-Daher or Adnan Imama and other Sunnis looking for a funder? It’s not in Saudi Arabia’s interest for Lebanon to turn into an arena for sectarian militias fighting each other on behalf of the region’s countries. It’s also not in the interest of Lebanon’s Sunnis and Shiites to support taking up arms and rebelling against the state. Despite assassinations and political mobilization, Lebanese public opinion remains mostly against resorting to arms, particularly following the destructive civil war that erupted in the 1970s. Therefore, the choice was made to support the Lebanese state and arm its military institution so the army can carry out its duties of protecting the Sunnis and the rest of the country’s factions. Let us recall that although Hezbollah has better arms and has had a fighting force for more than 30 years, it has failed to gain legitimacy despite its claim that it’s a resistance group and the guardian of Lebanon’s borders.
Strengthening the Lebanese army means weakening Hezbollah’s scheme to dominate Lebanon
Abdulrahman al-Rashed
It’s expected that supporting the army and strengthening it will anger groups such as Hezbollah. Hezbollah prefers the creation of Sunni militias so it can justify its existence as an armed Shiite militia. It prefers this scenario over strengthening the Lebanese army – something that can legitimately and militarily threaten it raison d’etre.
Standing against militias
Saudi Arabia has taken a decision against supporting the concept of militias, whether Sunni or Shiite, in Lebanon and other countries. It considers strengthening the state to be the correct option, not just for the Lebanese people, but for all the region’s countries which are concerned with establishing security. To respond to Saudi Arabia’s decision not to stand against legitimacy, Assad and the Iranian regime have since the 1980s invented religious Sunni leaders that compete with the civil Sunni leadership in order to hijack authority from leaders such as Karami, Solh and Hariri. Even Lebanon’s Sunni mufti, Mohammad Rashid Qabbani is rejected by Lebanon’s Sunnis because they consider him as an employee of the Assad regime! The Lebanese situation is similar to the Palestinian one as Fatah al-Islam, Hamas and the Islamic Jihad are linked to the Iranian and Syrian regimes.
Strengthening the Lebanese army means weakening Hezbollah’s scheme to dominate Lebanon and turn it into an Iranian emirate. It will enable the Lebanese to confront Sunni terrorist organizations which came running behind Hezbollah from Syria into Lebanon in this cat and mouse chase. The events in Arsal have proven the importance of having a strong army that stops the meddling of Hezbollah which sought to clash with Syrian groups under the Lebanese army’s flag. Military challenges at state level, from the events in Nahr al-Bared refugee camp to the recent events in Arsal, have proven that it’s not possible to trust Hezbollah and that the Lebanese people will not accept that any party besides the army defends their security.
However, strengthening the Lebanese army does not promise salvation from Hezbollah and other militias as this aim is impossible to achieve in the near future. The aim is to halt Hezbollah’s progress towards its goal of playing the role of the Syrian army, which was expelled from Lebanon after a UNSC decision following Syria’s involvement in the assassination of Hariri nine years ago. A strong Lebanese army will either weaken the militia’s justification that they should have a presence in the country or restrict their activity. In this case, Hezbollah will become a Shiite problem, and resolving it will be left to Lebanon’s Shiites.
This article was first published in Asharq al-Awsat on August 7, 2014.
Saudi Aramco and Mobil are developing Lebanese gas fields.
More cool sh-t.
IRAN of all people. The axle of evil blew blew a bearing?
Iran sends troops into Iraq to aid fight against Isis militants
Iran has sent 2,000 advance troops to Iraq in the past 48 hours to help tackle a jihadist insurgency, a senior Iraqi official has told the Guardian.
The confirmation comes as the Iranian president, Hassan Rouhani, said Iran was ready to support Iraq from the mortal threat fast spreading through the country, while the Iraqi prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki, called on citizens to take up arms in their country's defence.
Addressing the country on Saturday, Maliki said rebels from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isis) had given "an incentive to the army and to Iraqis to act bravely". His call to arms came after reports surfaced that hundreds of young men were flocking to volunteer centres across Baghdad to join the fight against Isis.