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'Probably'?
Lacking any photos, probably.

What is not speculation is that terrorists hid rockets in that school and the UN gave them back into the hands of 'the local authorities'.
So you are promoting killing of the local authorities, in Gaza, and anyplace else in the world, your corpse is what people would be concerned about.
You got a problem with what happened - talk to the 'local authorities' that hid the weapons there in the first place
Think, . . . you put something that goes boom in a place that goes boom are those items going to go boom also. Even a stupid person couldn't get this one wrong and only a troll would try to give the wrong answer.

Israeli's bombs represent a fraction of what your heroic, freedom fighters have sent into the homes, schools, synagogues and kindergartens in Israel.
So you have some stats from some reliable source do you. How much shrapnel in Israel is from their own iron dome's hardware?

... You reap what you sow, I guess
For Israel's sake you better hope not. Once the Arabs gain control via being the majority vote and the Jews are treated better than the Arabs today are then the gap between the two will be very easy to see. The two examples they set already were snuffed out quickly by the US least the world see rejection of US inspired living conditions didn't have to be the norm. Gaza does not exist because of her own deeds so vocal tears for her are allowed, if the West trips and falls (when) why would I shed any tears. A stopped broken system is better than living with a broken system while it is still functioning. Only somebody who is working to keep the broken system in place is a danger to the people who come under that system

I see, so by that logic, the victims there are not worthy of your sympathies as it is 'the West' that supplied the arms?
If Isreal is the victim who is the victim in the Ukraine and who should Crimea belong to?

Well put.

Seems to be no lack of logic from this guy when it comes to justifying violence and aggression to one group and a free pass on that same violence by another group.
Will you state that is your view for Gaza and the Ukraine events?

Do all the other people in the area just not think the events recorded are suitable for upload? I'm surprised there isn't a Gaza Graves playlist and in all right the ICC should be getting copies of all the vids so they can make a determination this time rather than sending in a Jewish judge so it doesn't look anti-simetic. Turns out Israel and the IDF are anti-simetic themselves. Seems the Judge is playing more golf these days than Obama so no interview.

I can remember a thread created by Jews when the pineir forests were burning out of control. They were just as scared as anybody in Gaza. With a fire you can see and hear it coming so the danger is a known one. In the pic below being seen with a can of gas in hand is not going to get you any points. Israel can claim they didn't start the fire, they cannot claim to not be adding fuel.

 

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Lacking any photos, probably.

I see... So you mean your position is supported only by your personal opinion.

How factual of you


So you are promoting killing of the local authorities, in Gaza, and anyplace else in the world, your corpse is what people would be concerned about.

Nope

Think, . . . you put something that goes boom in a place that goes boom are those items going to go boom also. Even a stupid person couldn't get this one wrong and only a troll would try to give the wrong answer.

.. And it still eludes you that putting the actual 'boom' materials in a school, residential house or mosque isn't just inviting more 'booms'?

You are such an ideologue



So you have some stats from some reliable source do you. How much shrapnel in Israel is from their own iron dome's hardware?

I'm not making the claims champ... Find your own fukking stats


For Israel's sake you better hope not. Once the Arabs gain control via being the majority vote and the Jews are treated better than the Arabs today are then the gap between the two will be very easy to see. The two examples they set already were snuffed out quickly by the US least the world see rejection of US inspired living conditions didn't have to be the norm. Gaza does not exist because of her own deeds so vocal tears for her are allowed, if the West trips and falls (when) why would I shed any tears. A stopped broken system is better than living with a broken system while it is still functioning. Only somebody who is working to keep the broken system in place is a danger to the people who come under that system

The 'Authority' in that region of the globe has alrady pledged to exterminate the Jews... How much worse can that really get?

If Isreal is the victim who is the victim in the Ukraine and who should Crimea belong to?

This isn't about Russia and the Ukraine, is it?

Will you state that is your view for Gaza and the Ukraine events?


Sure... Victims are victims regardless of nationality, culture, race or political stripe.

Unlike your fanatical, ideological self, I don't draw such narrow lines and justify misery on one side and vehemently condemn it on another.

You are just a blood-thirsty ideological fanatic that wants to justify harm to Israel regardless of what other elements contribute to this overall disaster.
 

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There's another accepted doctrine in warfare in which one of the combatants seeks to destroy the supply chain and arms depot(s) of their enemy.

Pretty standard stuff
Happy face when Israel does it and sad face when Hamas does it. You just admitted both sides have a right to do that.
Lets see those pics of munitions found just because at schools and as a parting shot Israel would pepper the place with cluster munitions which are designed to have many not go off when dropped and they are painted bright colors so kids will be the first to pick them up. Were those the munitions found by kids and turned into the teachers who then called the police who came and took the devices away, 'those bastards when are they going to start acting human' is the message you are trying to change that into with the addition that after taking away such devices they would take them to their Ninja Turtles lab and do sinister things to them all night long. Might as well know the face of your enemy.
OMG that is who they were based off and Splinter must be Arafat (oopsie little vomit there) etc, etc, ect. I can see Gaza is going to be getting a big fat royalty check, probably in the mail already, right?

Many Palestinian casualties are Hamas rockets falling short.
So Israel used to punish Hamas for firing dummy rockets into the vacant desert and now Israel is punishing Gaza for firing rockets in Gaza that never leave Gaza but end up looking like the picture below?


This event will give you a lot more photos for when your African series runs out of material. By right we should be able to ask for a copy of some liquor sales slip just to prove you weren't IDF'ing it.
 

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Do all the other people in the area just not think the events recorded are suitable for upload? I'm surprised there isn't a Gaza Graves playlist and in all right the ICC should be getting copies of all the vids so they can make a determination this time rather than sending in a Jewish judge so it doesn't look anti-simetic. Turns out Israel and the IDF are anti-simetic themselves. Seems the Judge is playing more golf these days than Obama so no interview.

I can remember a thread created by Jews when the pineir forests were burning out of control. They were just as scared as anybody in Gaza. With a fire you can see and hear it coming so the danger is a known one. In the pic below being seen with a can of gas in hand is not going to get you any points. Israel can claim they didn't start the fire, they cannot claim to not be adding fuel.

erm, I dunno about all that there and such...I just added a story from a Pal POV. ;-)
 

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If the people in rose up against Hamas they would get plenty of help form the West including Israel.

slow down slim...yer muckin' up yer words a lot these days. there's no prize fer speed-postin'. :lol:
 

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Happy face when Israel does it and sad face when Hamas does it. You just admitted both sides have a right to do that.

If both groups want to have at 'er, then so be it.

Just stop your bitching because Israel is light years more effective, m'kay

Lets see those pics of munitions found just because at schools

The UN's admission of their existence is good enough for me

So Israel used to punish Hamas for firing dummy rockets into the vacant desert and now Israel is punishing Gaza for firing rockets in Gaza that never leave Gaza but end up looking like the picture below?

Dummy rockets.. How appropriate.

Like bringing a knife to a gun fight

This event will give you a lot more photos for when your African series runs out of material. By right we should be able to ask for a copy of some liquor sales slip just to prove you weren't IDF'ing it.

Whatever dafuq this is supposed to mean
 

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Those who dehumanise victims on either side of this horrific fiasco, or who support either side though word, weapon, or ammunition, should give their heads a shake and try, however difficult that may be, to think how most just try to live in peace and grieve no less than we when friend, child, or family members are lost to crazed violence. Wars harden hearts, they do not resolve underlying grievances or hatreds.
 
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Well put.

Seems to be no lack of logic from this guy when it comes to justifying violence and aggression to one group and a free pass on that same violence by another group.

Yea it's quite illogical to overlook rockets when they're killing nobody and Israel is slaughtering civilians which you call "standard" .

There's nothing standard about targeting civilians, it's a war crime.

If the people in Gaza rose up against Hamas they would get plenty of help form the West including Israel.


Israel already gives aid to Gaza in the form of food and clothing.

Israel is killing them though, deliberately.


It's the modern day Anne Frank
 

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”NATO bombed 5,000 civilians in Kosovo just because it was insulted; 27,000 Iraqi civilians were bombed during the American invasion because they posed a danger to the US; there is not a country in the world that can talk to us about morality.” - Israeli MP


Israel is definitely right about that.
 

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Yea it's quite illogical to overlook rockets when they're killing nobody and Israel is slaughtering civilians which you call "standard" .

There's nothing standard about targeting civilians, it's a war crime.



Israel is killing them though, deliberately.



It's the modern day Anne Frank

Still an idiot....have you forgotten already?? Does Jew-hatred destroy the memory?? Or are you just hoping I'm not on-line to call you on your Bull****.

Casualties of the Gaza War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Let's look at the figures....even though in Operation Cast Lead, in which the same claims were made, it was later discovered that IDF figures were accurate (as admitted by Hamas).......let's use the figures from the Palestinian Human Rights group.

1417 dead.

116 women.

313 children.

DO THE MATH.

429 women and children.

The median age in Gaza is 15..........so statistically well over half the dead would be children, if the IDF were targeting civilians. Instead it is 22%.............and believe me, some of the 16 and 17 year olds were militants.

Women make up just slightly less than half of the adult population. So....they should be one half of the adult casualties, if the IDF is casual about civilian deaths. 1417 dead, minus 313 dead children, leaves 1104 dead adults, women making up only slightly over 10% of the dead adults.

Which means the IDF has killed 988 adult males, out of 1417..................

If the IDF is targeting civilians, this makes NO sense.

Even the Palestinians admit 491 of the dead were militants. (police ARE combatants) That is over a third of the dead.....an exceptionally good score in modern warfare.

Anecdotes are interesting and emotionally disturbing, but you can't argue with numbers.

Or you can, but you have to be REALLY stupid.
 

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The stats vary wildly from 89 children dead (IDF), to 431 (Palestininan Ministry of Health).. Here's the reality.. Israel doesn't care about civilian deaths, and most certainly are targeting civilians in some cases and others they're just careless... There's too many examples of this, you're too stubborn to admit it.
 

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Israel's deliberate and systematic attacks on civilian targets, by design those containing women and children.. is a concerted campaign of terror.. aimed, as Isreal's policy has been for the last 70 years, at expelling Palestinians from the State of Israel and holding them in a stateless, dependent and impotent political netherland.

This exemplary and punitive military action is aimed at suppressing the Palestinian people as Isreal positions itself to annex the West Bank and initiate a program of Ethnic Cleansing to rid itself of a non-Jewish majority in the region.

Israel really doesn't care what the world thinks.. as long as its patron and guarantor, the United States of America, continues to supply its weapons and protect it from international outrage. They deem themselves answerable only to God.. and have established electoral franchises in the U.S... amongst Jews and Evangelical Christians who support any actions that support that cause (and prophesy).

Israel has become a rogue, outlaw state.. a terrorist organization.. driven by racism, ideology and ambition. Ultimately the tides of history will turn against it. Because NO state has EVER survived on those principles.. but it will be a bloody reconning.. for BOTH sides. AND for its patrons.
 
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If the people in Gaza rose up against Hamas they would get plenty of help form the West including Israel.


Israel already gives aid to Gaza in the form of food and clothing.
When is the next election anyway? Perhaps the West can pump in $5B covertly and then stage a coup, you know like it didn't work in the Ukraine.

When you control the inflow of all goods for 40 years (and counting) and then cut it off entirely for a period and then allow it to resume at 25% of the rate it used to be that is not 'giving aid'. That they consider how low can we go before anybody else complains means the operation is meant to be a siege in the full sense of the word.

If that is what you brought back from vacation your 'kiddies from Mexico' ought to be interesting to say the least. If it is a selfie you had me the whole way the whole time.

Let's look at the figures....even though in Operation Cast Lead, in which the same claims were made, it was later discovered that IDF figures were accurate (as admitted by Hamas).......let's use the figures from the Palestinian Human Rights group.

1417 dead.

116 women.

313 children.

DO THE MATH.

429 women and children.

The median age in Gaza is 15..........so statistically well over half the dead would be children, if the IDF were targeting civilians. Instead it is 22%.............and believe me, some of the 16 and 17 year olds were militants.

Women make up just slightly less than half of the adult population. So....they should be one half of the adult casualties, if the IDF is casual about civilian deaths. 1417 dead, minus 313 dead children, leaves 1104 dead adults, women making up only slightly over 10% of the dead adults.

Which means the IDF has killed 988 adult males, out of 1417..................

If the IDF is targeting civilians, this makes NO sense.

Even the Palestinians admit 491 of the dead were militants. (police ARE combatants) That is over a third of the dead.....an exceptionally good score in modern warfare.

Anecdotes are interesting and emotionally disturbing, but you can't argue with numbers.

Or you can, but you have to be REALLY stupid.
Well if there was ever a post that shows your slimy side it would take on this kind of formant.

Just like Russia couldn't outspend the West Israel can't 'outspend' Hamas as the Arab League would gladly pass along those fat accounts sitting idle in banks along to Hama as longs as the Jews sticky fingers was kept away from it. The sugar from Uncle Sam is being shut down and the EU isn't insane enough to threaten OPEC with sanctions.

The cost to Hamas since Cast Lead has been basically zero while Israel might claim 2/3 of her iron dome expenses has to do with Hamas being a threat to their way of life. Gaza isn't anymore difficult to invade with the military than it was back in 1967 and if Israels does another 20 year campaign of brutal military occupation then another Govt will be voted in by the 'survivors' and one condition will be don't give in to a deal because of threats of violence or all those that have died without being a fighter will have been for nothing. Not that Isreal is looking to an to what is the norm for the last 40 years as it would have been changed 39 years ago if change was part of the plan.

You have to be really stupid if numbers keep you from feeling an emotion caused by using their names. If the cause is just you will have the same emotion no matter if you use numbers or names. If there is a difference then that tells a lot about how just you actually feel about the situation. If the names don't choke you up then you have a few from the past with that same trait. They were recorded for the things they did wrong rather than for the things they did right, . . . just sayin. One good thing about being as vile as you are it keeps the posts personal and short. Cleanup in isles 4 and 11.

Here is a tradition move that shows why talk of war-crimes surface under the collective punishment rules. By not providing a clearly marked passage that is available to all women and children it is a war-crime no matter what happened before that. Plead temp insanity, it is an insane act.
 
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The stats vary wildly from 89 children dead (IDF), to 431 (Palestininan Ministry of Health).. Here's the reality.. Israel doesn't care about civilian deaths, and most certainly are targeting civilians in some cases and others they're just careless... There's too many examples of this, you're too stubborn to admit it.

You can't squirm out of it........

I used the Palestinian Human Rights group to provide an answer free of what you would immediately call IDF propaganda.

I showed exactly why it is obvious that the IDF is NOT targeting civilians by careful consideration of casualty figures from a Palestinian source.

So, your accusation of civilian murders proves something:

1. You are so blinded by Jew hatred you can not deal with the obvious facts.

2. You are simply so stupid you don't understand yhe obvious facts (like MHz)

3. Both of the above.

Personally, I'm thinking number 3.

Israel's deliberate and systematic attacks on civilian targets, by design those containing women and children.. is a concerted campaign of terror.. aimed, as Isreal's policy has been for the last 70 years, at expelling Palestinians from the State of Israel and holding them in a stateless, dependent and impotent political netherland.

This exemplary and punitive military action is aimed at suppressing the Palestinian people as Isreal positions itself to annex the West Bank and initiate a program of Ethnic Cleansing to rid itself of a non-Jewish majority in the region.

Israel really doesn't care what the world thinks.. as long as its patron and guarantor, the United States of America, continues to supply its weapons and protect it from international outrage. They deem themselves answerable only to God.. and have established electoral franchises in the U.S... amongst Jews and Evangelical Christians who support any actions that support that cause (and prophesy).

Israel has become a rogue, outlaw state.. a terrorist organization.. driven by racism, ideology and ambition. Ultimately the tides of history will turn against it. Because NO state has EVER survived on those principles.. but it will be a bloody reconning.. for BOTH sides. AND for its patrons.

Another ****ing idiot that can't understand the stats................

Those who dehumanise victims on either side of this horrific fiasco, or who support either side though word, weapon, or ammunition, should give their heads a shake and try, however difficult that may be, to think how most just try to live in peace and grieve no less than we when friend, child, or family members are lost to crazed violence. Wars harden hearts, they do not resolve underlying grievances or hatreds.

So the Jews should just shut up and die as Hamas raids through tunnels and fires rockets.

Yep, that makes sense.