Horror Day of Israeli Attacks:
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Jews have always been a peaceful people, they walked inot the ovens and their sons and daughters said never again.
The Palestinians remind me a lot of the French Canadian who have self centered leaders and care nothing for their people except in them sustaining their power with propaganda.
When the Palestinians wake up ans see who are making them pawns , peace will be at hand.
Ignorance abounds and no one is teaching them , just feeding them BS.
The Palestinians remind me a lot of the French Canadian who have self centered leaders and care nothing for their people except in them sustaining their power with propaganda.
When the Palestinians wake up ans see who are making them pawns , peace will be at hand.
Ignorance abounds and no one is teaching them , just feeding them BS.
So this recent conflict had nothing to do with the suspected abduction of some Israeli kids who were later found murdered and then blamed automatically on Hamas without any factual proof?
Because I'm sure Hamas would step out of the normal routine by kidnapping some no-name kids who'd have zero intelligence to extract from and just kill them for sh*ts and giggles.
"About a month ago, three teenage Israeli students — Eyal Yifrah, Gilad Shaar, and Naftali Frenkel — disappeared in the West Bank, where they were studying at a yeshiva. Israel conducted a massive manhunt for them in the West Bank, on the basis of intelligence that they were kidnapped by Palestinian militants. Thousands of Israeli soldiers swept the Palestinian territory, arresting hundreds of Palestinians and shutting down Palestinian movement in wide areas.
The boys were found, dead in apparent gunshot executions, last Monday. The leading suspects are Hamas members, and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu insists that the entire group bears responsibility, though Hamas itself denies any role in planning or carrying out the killing. Israel responded with a limited bombing campaign in Gaza. Palestinian militant groups (though, notably, not Hamas) in Gaza fired rockets into Israel."
^ The same intelligence that led them to shelling some kids playing on a beach. The same intelligence that's blowing up innocent civilian homes without any evidence of militants or weapons being inside.
I'm not seeing a whole lot of intelligence going on around here.
Leading suspects are Hamas Members..... not that Israel wouldn't have just staged the whole thing, kidnapped the kids and killed them just to have an excuse to continue their blood lust of committing genocide of the Palestinians.
Honestly, I wouldn't put it past them. These are the same people who used Cluster Bombs, White Phosphorous Bombs and indiscriminately kill civilians on a daily basis with the cloak of trying to be humanitarians by "Warning" civilians they're about to blow them up.....
.... but hey, at least they tried right?
Any other civilized country wouldn't pull such a stunt if civilians were in close proximity or there was a chance of hitting civilians in any way.
One of the things Canadian Soldiers were great at in Afghanistan was protecting civilians and not carpet bombing an entire village for one or two insurgents, then turning around and calling them collateral. For the most part, Canadian troops were getting a better reputation in Afghanistan than most other NATO troops simply because they operated like a scalpel rather than a sledgehammer.
If Hamas is truly using civilians as shields, that's still no excuse to blast through those civilians and disregarding their safety. That's like going after bank robbers holding civilians hostage by blowing up the bank they're all inside of.
You simply don't win over people to your side when you act like that.
Sure you can blow them all up and blame Hamas for those civilians dying and maybe think other civilians may start to hate Hamas, but in reality, those civilians are going to blame those who blew up those other civilians and that would be Israel, not Hamas.
Same as in Afghanistan with the US's mentality of blowing up villages to get a couple of Taliban or Al'Q and killing a bunch of civilians. They blamed the Taliban for using civilians as shields, and figured civilians would start to hate the Taliban and Al'Q for those deaths, but the US and other NATO forces only got more hatred from those actions, not support.
Yes, Hamas is firing off a pile of rockets towards Israel..... that's because that's the only thing they can do against Israel at this stage.
But I guess Durry is right.
^ Everybody should have just left Germany alone in WWII I suppose..... oh wait, that's what started all of this mess in the first place. Everybody left them alone to do whatever they damn well pleased until the damage was already done. And this is the end result, Israel being created and Israel doing the same thing to a bunch of oppressed people whom they took their lands and have the rest of the world stepping back and letting them do whatever they please.
Guess they want someone else to suffer like they did.
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Indeed.... and every time there's something like this that gets attention and people see that women, children and other civilians are being killed, we always hear Israel say they regret it and that there will be "An Investigation" into the matter.
.... Which leads to crap all because they don't give a crap about Palestinians.
When have we ever heard the end result of any of these "Investigations?"
I'm sure they have a long list of "Investigations" they never bothered to follow up on which are all stored on one long listed Microsoft Notepad document on a floppy disk that's sitting under the leg of someone's office desk to keep it level.
Basically I agree with this. Very clear.
But.....
My question is what were the reasons that led them to do such a thing.
That is not so black and white. There is something wrong here that won't go away and when you looks closely at it I can not choose sides between the two camps. There is a whole lot of wrong to be shared here.
Israel is not an innocent victim in this.
Israel also has elderly, women and children too, don't forget, and the "Palestinians" didn't care about them when they suddenly started lobbing rockets over into Israel, starting this current conflict.
The only reason why so very few Israelis have died compared to "Palestinians" is that, when it comes to getting their rockets on target, the "Palestinians" are useless.
I just can't understand why the usual idiots are blaming this conflict of Israel, when it was the "Palestinians" who started it.
The usual ignorance and bigotry, perhaps?
The Western left-wing media, like the Graun, the Indy and the Beeb, love reporting as often as they can on the Israel-Palestine issue because it gives them the opportunity to indulge in a bit of Jew-bashing.
Other, much worse, land disputes have taken place elsewhere but they don't get the same amount of coverage in the nasty left-wing press.
yea what has israel done wrong to deserve such hatred? they're clearly innocent in this conflict.
i always thought blackleaf was a troll, he's like a less intellectual version of boris johnson.
57 seconds to death (Israel's warning to civilians in action) - YouTube
i always thought blackleaf was a troll, he's like a less intellectual version of boris johnson.
57 seconds to death (Israel's warning to civilians in action) - YouTube
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They're certainly are. The Paleosimians started this conflict, not the Israelis.
How anyone can be so ignorant is beyond me.
Can you tell me how the Israelis are at fault here? And I'd like you to do so without any racism, please. Thanks.
I'm not a troll. You and your mates are the trolls around here.
Nothing is beyond me.
Isn't it time you lot bucked your ideas up? I think it is. Start watching the news and reading the newspapers, instead of letting your bigotry, your ignorance and your general unpleasantness control the way you think.
That way, the world will be a much better place.
Thanks.
Blackleaf, you just said, and I quote. . .
So were you lying then, or are you lying now?
didn't you just make a statement in the other thread about how all Palestinians are jew haters? lol.
good job ignoring the video btw
You're a Jew-hater. And you're ignorant. And you try to insult my great intelligence by trying to have me believe that Israel is partly to blame for this conflict. You should be THOROUGHLY ashamed of yourself, lad.
Hey Blackleaf..... You don't understand how people can think that the Israelis started this recent conflict. How about you scroll back up a bit to one of my previous posts with the big bold text explaining exactly how this all started.
I'll simplify it for you.
Some Israeli kids disappeared. They were found dead. Israel blamed Hamas even though they had no proof or had any real investigation into the matter and then started blowing things up because they're always right & justified..... Then the Palestinians started firing rockets in retaliation.
But of course, Israel didn't start this.
Insulting your intelligence isn't necessary for us to do. You do it all by yourself just fine without our help.
I'll simplify it for you.
Some Israeli kids disappeared. They were found dead. Israel blamed Hamas even though they had no proof or had any real investigation into the matter and then started blowing things up because they're always right & justified..... Then the Palestinians started firing rockets in retaliation.
But of course, Israel didn't start this.
Insulting your intelligence isn't necessary for us to do. You do it all by yourself just fine without our help.
Why am I expected to cheer for Israel? Why do people think they are obligated to support Israel?
For all we know these kids buggered off into the hills to get drunk, didn't have paperwork, got shot by IDF and blamed on Hamas
Nutlessyahud has been trying to instegate sh-t with Iran but now he can't so what is the other option to crank up opinion polls for his shifty Soviet party?
For all we know these kids buggered off into the hills to get drunk, didn't have paperwork, got shot by IDF and blamed on Hamas
Nutlessyahud has been trying to instegate sh-t with Iran but now he can't so what is the other option to crank up opinion polls for his shifty Soviet party?
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Two can play that game:
Israeli Security Chief and Holocaust survivor compares Israel to Nazi Germany
Israeli Security Chief and Holocaust survivor compares Israel to Nazi Germany
GERMANY 1940 - ISRAEL 2014
GERMANY 1940 ISRAEL 2014
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Israel has their own ghetto.
You don't need to simplify things for me. Thanks, though, I appreciate your concern.
Where's your proof that Israel had no proof? How do you know this? Do you work within the deepest realms of the Israeli security and intelligence services? Please, be a good chap and let me know. Thanks.
Oh, I forgot. Silly me. You don't have any, do you?
The FACT is - and unlike you lot I only deal with facts and not ideological, anti-Jewish mythology - the Israelis had proof that it was Hamas.
The Israelis had, as Mr Netanyahu said, "a lot" of proof that Hamas were behind this despicale act.
"We've pretty much figured out who are the kidnappers," Netanyahu said during an interview with NPR's Morning Edition. "The actual perpetrators, the supporters, the command structure and there's no question — these are members of Hamas. We've passed some of that information to the U.S. government and others. We'll make it public as soon as the investigation enables us to do that. Our — my number one goal right now is to bring back our three kidnapped boys."
Even the Paleosimians have admitted that the murders were the result of a rogue Hamas branch:
Accused kidnappers are rogue Hamas branch
Author: Shlomi Eldar
Posted June 29, 2014
Translator(s)Danny Wool
Posted June 29, 2014
Translator(s)Danny Wool
On June 26, the Shin Bet allowed the release of the names of the two men suspected of orchestrating the kidnapping of the three yeshiva (religious high school) students in the Etzion settlement bloc. The suspects are Marwan Qawasmeh and Amar Abu Aisha.
Summary The Hebron-based Qawasmeh family may not be under the direct control of Hamas, but its actions have placed Hamas in Israel's sights with regard to the kidnapping of three Israeli students.
According to Palestinian sources, Palestinian security forces had already reported to Israel that these two suspects had disappeared from Hebron within 24 hours of the abduction. That was the first clue in the investigation and the reason why Israel pointed an accusatory finger at the Hamas infrastructure in Hebron. But while Israel continues to accuse the Hamas movement and its leadership of being responsible for the abduction, Palestinian security forces attribute the abduction to the Qawasmeh clan of Hebron specifically. Though the clan is known for identifying with Hamas, it also has a well-earned reputation as troublemakers. Not only does it tend to ignore the movement’s leaders. It even acts counter to the policies being advocated by the movement.
No, they didn't. The Palestinians, as is too often the case, did. Don't kidnap and murder Israeli citizens and then expect no reprisals. This current conflict was started by the "Palestinians" and now they are reaping what they sowed.
I don't insult my intelligence. I insult what little intelligence your and your ignorant mates have, and I shall continue to do that until you learn.