Justin Trudeau’s Liberals closing in fast on Conservatives’ fundraising status

Count_Lothian

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This kind of integrity?


I see Harper's action ad propaganda has turned you to the dark side.

So thinking for yourself is out of the question eh.
Typical logo fanatic

 

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I hate how almost every political conversation starts with a stupid hamfisted comment by a con which has to go under meticulous scrutiny by someone of much higher intelligence so that we can finally get back to having an honest discussion again.

If conbots would finally give up the scripted rhetoric and talking points, we might actually get somewhere.

I'm sure this post will be a fart in the wind and conbot will continue with his scripted barking.

Oh look.....
 
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I see Harper's action ad propaganda has turned you to the dark side.

So thinking for yourself is out of the question eh.

What?.. No defense of your shiny messiah?

Fact is champ, JT brings nothing to the table. All of the rhetoric and platitudes upon which you are basing your opinion has no basis in reality.

Platitudes is all you or Trudeau can rely on

I hate how almost every political conversation starts with a stupid hamfisted comment by a con

Correction: these political conversations generally begin with your partisan, and endless OPs that are simply attempts to poke a stick at the Cons.

It must really make you cry in your beer that Canadians, in general, are better-off today under Harper when compared to our G7 counterparts.
 

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If you are a Liberal thinking for yourself is certainly not allowed.

Justin Trudeau: New Anti-Abortion Candidates Can't Run For Liberals In 2015

If you are Justin, thinking is out of the question.......full stop.

Sun News : Trudeau: "budget will balance itself"
As for the abortion issue.
I think he has a strong sense that women should have a right over their bodies , not government.
The conservatives are flaky as hell on this issue.
Most do not want abortion clinics and Harper muzzles them due to his quest for votes.

Harper has no scruples and just wants votes.

Justin has scruples and just wants to show the world what he stands for. Like it or leave it.

Harper does not have the integrity to say what he thinks or believes so you end up with spin doctoring 101. that's it . just spin.


please do not use sun media when addressing me.

It's worse than FOX news...
Somehow I only tuned into that crap by accident, due to this place.

Honestly, I just did not know about it until whilst lurking here months before I joined, Gerryh mentioned it in a rampage against it.
I was curious and thats what had me thinking gerryh was a free thinker.

some of his stuff makes me wonder but he is a free thinker.

you write well Colpy but your so full of conservative propaganda it is pathetic.
you need to listen to yourself and see how far gone you are.

I was a conservative and voted for Harper, and voted liberal as well, not often enough it seems.
I still am a Conservative with no party to support. Harper conned MacKay into signing it away with the promise of him being leader.

There is no conservative party, just self serving liars and expensive sheets of paper from spin doctors.

Your disdain for liberals blinds you totally.

I've learned a lot about people since I came here.

It's sad because I know you are not an idiot, not your normal everyday variety anyway.

But to be this loyal to these bastards.
It's scary.

And don;t project your blindness on me.

I know justin is far from perfecto!
I cringe at his ability to talk. Drives me bonkers.. which begs the question why all this talk of him being a pretty boy drama queen , when he obviously needs speech lessons.
 

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Smart move by Trudeau. He'll lose a few votes ovr it, but gain more. And pro-life candidates are toxic in any party, even the Conservatives who have to spend no small amount of energy keeping them down. They tend to be one-issue politicians--kind of understandable, since from their point of view we're in the middle of a baby Holocaust.
 

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As for the abortion issue.
I think he has a strong sense that women should have a right over their bodies , not government.
The conservatives are flaky as hell on this issue.
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In Canada, it is perfectly legal for a doctor to to interupt a birth as the fully developed child is part way down the birth canal, burst open the skull, and scramble the kids brains. That is absolutely outrageous, and anyone that thinks otherwise needs their head examined. The current lack of law is extremeist, as shown by the fact that practically no other nation on earth allows such things.

There is a middle way. Unlimited abortion up until a certain stage (say 22 weeks), and afterward if approved by a doctor for the sake of the mother's health.

That is what most Canadians want.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/0...ians-support-abortion-with-some-restrictions/

please do not use sun media when addressing me.
You should open your mind a bit.

On a couple of news items of which I have some knowledge, Sun News is the ONLY news outlet that told the story as it happened. Be it the High River gun grabs, the seizure of legally purchased firearms, the Rexton, NB protests, the robocalls "scandal", etc etc , ONLY Sun News got it right.

The fact you can not deal with a newscast that expresses a somewhat different view than the MSM says an awful lot about your political accuity.

Personally, I watch CBC for most news........and then check out Sun on-line for the other view.
 

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In Canada, it is perfectly legal for a doctor to to interupt a birth as the fully developed child is part way down the birth canal, burst open the skull, and scramble the kids brains. That is absolutely outrageous, and anyone that thinks otherwise needs their head examined. The current lack of law is extremeist, as shown by the fact that practically no other nation on earth allows such things.

There is a middle way. Unlimited abortion up until a certain stage (say 22 weeks), and afterward if approved by a doctor for the sake of the mother's health.

That is what most Canadians want.

This is not about the mechanics of abortion.
Serioulsy i think it is murder, plain and simple.
But it seems to be important to women that they have control over their bodies.

Justin supports that.

Harper evades the issue totally.

Colpy your evading the point i make about you being a victim of propaganda and clinging to a non Conservative party logo.

So you decide to discuss abortion.

You people have to do a lot of that lately.
it's pathetic and hilarious at the same time.

you have the nerve to ridicule me and yet you have to pretend so much is not happening in your government.

LOL!!!!

It gets worse by the day.

your eating the vomit your government produces and still praise them and try your best to have disdain for Justin.
 

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This is not about the mechanics of abortion.
Serioulsy i think it is murder, plain and simple.
But it seems to be important to women that they have control over their bodies.

Justin supports that.

Harper evades the issue totally.

Colpy your evading the point i make about you being a victim of propaganda and clinging to a non Conservative party logo.

So you decide to discuss abortion.

You people have to do a lot of that lately.
it's pathetic and hilarious at the same time.

you have the nerve to ridicule me and yet you have to pretend so much is not happening in your government.

LOL!!!!

It gets worse by the day.

your eating the vomit your government produces and still praise them and try your best to have disdain for Justin.

The Conservatives are simply the best offered.

I am disgusted by spying on Canadians, by mandatory sentencing, by the idiotic war on drugs, by the treatment of veterans, by the power centralization in the PMO.

However, the Conservatives have it right on the United Nations (the uselessness thereof), gun control, on the economy, on foreign policy, on our allies, on the environment, on Quebec, on Israel, on Ukraine, etc etc.

Trudeau has it right on marijuana, and WRONG on everything else.

So the Conservatives get my money, and retain my party membership and my vote.
 

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Harper evading this issue and Trudeau tackling it head on is exactly the kind of optics the media will go after. It clearly paints Trudeau as a leader and Harper as a coward.
 

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Harper evading this issue and Trudeau tackling it head on is exactly the kind of optics the media will go after. It clearly paints Trudeau as a leader and Harper as a coward.

Trudeau has self-destructed yet again by prohibiting any of his party members from taking a stance that is contrary to his own.

God forbid that some of the voters in the ridings have a different view than baby-T.

Much like the brutal, murderous dictators that Trudeau admires so much, he is walking in their footsteps
 

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Yea Trudeau self-destructed.

I want some of that criminalized pot you've been smoking.
 

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Yea Trudeau self-destructed.

I want some of that criminalized pot you've been smoking.

Can't see reality through the thick fog of partisanship I see.

You can spin this all you like as Justine taking a stand on abortion. Fact is, there is a reason that almost every party of every democratic state in the Western world has stayed miles away from taking a stand on this issue.

I'm speculating here, but I'm guessing the reason for the above has nothing to do with Justine knowing something whereas the rest of the world doesn't.

Speaking of dictators, you seem to like Harpo's brand of dictatorship.


Trudeau highly admires dictators... Fair to say that he admires Harper?
 

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I hate to say it, but JT just lost my vote with his "no voting on conscious". With my vote also goes my wifes and at least 2 of my boys.

You all know that I have supported him and defended him from day one. This is not an easy decision to make but I really see no alternative.

Congrats. The alternatives are not much better
 

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Trudeau highly admires dictators... Fair to say that he admires Harper?
A bit of a mental stretch, but honestly, I don't give a rat's petooty. Con or Lib, both are corporate puppets, so I won't be supporting either. I prefer Trudeau's style (less dictatorial) but I voter independent because I do not support the party system. In the end, the party system will always be dictatorial in a majority government, even if it were a NDP or Green one.
 

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Can't see reality through the thick fog of partisanship I see.

You can spin this all you like as Justine taking a stand on abortion. Fact is, there is a reason that almost every party of every democratic state in the Western world has stayed miles away from taking a stand on this issue.

At one point governments didn't take a stand on racism or sexism either.

Trudeau is correctly recognizing that this won't have a significant impact on Liberal support.

This will move the crazies over to the Con side and force them to deal with the rift.
 

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A bit of a mental stretch, but honestly, I don't give a rat's petooty.

His words Cliffy in the national media.

I prefer Trudeau's style (less dictatorial)

Too funny.. The only leader that has publicly announced that any existing or potential candidate that doesn't share his views on abortion can't run for the Libs.

That's not dictatorial?


At one point governments didn't take a stand on racism or sexism either.

Trudeau is correctly recognizing that this won't have a significant impact on Liberal support.

This will move the crazies over to the Con side and force them to deal with the rift.


What a joke... Trudeau is only recognizing his ideological bent and closing the door on the rest.

Have you figured it out yet that he has alienated a huge percentage of the electorate on this issue?

Many won't vote Trudeau now specifically on this issue and totally ignore any other policies that he has (correction: that he may have, as he has no policies right now) even if they supported those policies (assuming he ever publicizes any).

Personally, I think it's great - baby-T has just guaranteed that the Libs will remain as a backwater party in Parliament