Why are many Christians so intolerant of other religions and spiritual paths?

[Count_Lothian]

Actually, he was not dealing in obscurities or (his) delusions. It is doctrine that no one is saved except by faith in Christ. Is that not true? So those who do not have that faith are lost. Is that not true? You are the one muddying the waters with an personal attack on gerry's integrity.

I don't recall where, but did not Christ say somewhere something to the effect of"If you cannot believe in Me than believe in My message".

If that is true than it's the message that saves one not the person.

There is a famous Buddhist saying, follow the Law not the person.

The law being the teachings of Buddha.


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[gerryh]

Cliffy,
Given Gerry's temperament, methinks he is looking for me to condemn specific persons. If he wants to discuss theology, I am glad to respond. However, his intent is to spread poison and shred souls. He wishes for me or Motar to take the bait and remove God from His throne. He waits with drool running down his forearms in hopes we will issue the edict - perhaps we will provide a burning scroll of damnation listing all persons we judge to be hell bound!

Wrong. Again. No surprise. That's the problem with those that can't think for themselves.

You, motar, and MHZ, the devils hand maidens.

 

[petros]

That's the gist of born againism.

 

[Goober]

Gerry,
I'd rather not be the devil's handyman. Why are you his secretary? You rather like to fight and roll about kicking up dirt and manure. I have no desire to wade through your doctrinal obscurities and delusions.

The points he made are valid and deserving of a better answer than leaving it up to God. Both of you have quoted scripture time and again. Reinforcing the points Ger has made.

 

[gerryh]

Actually, he was not dealing in obscurities or (his) delusions. It is doctrine that no one is saved except by faith in Christ. Is that not true? So those who do not have that faith are lost. Is that not true? You are the one muddying the waters with an personal attack on gerry's integrity.

Cliffy,
Given Gerry's temperament, methinks he is looking for me to condemn specific persons. If he wants to discuss theology, I am glad to respond. However, his intent is to spread poison and shred souls. He wishes for me or Motar to take the bait and remove God from His throne. He waits with drool running down his forearms in hopes we will issue the edict - perhaps we will provide a burning scroll of damnation listing all persons we judge to be hell bound!

and I notice you didn't answer a single one of Cliffy's questions.

 

[Goober]

Cliffy,
Given Gerry's temperament, methinks he is looking for me to condemn specific persons. If he wants to discuss theology, I am glad to respond. However, his intent is to spread poison and shred souls. He wishes for me or Motar to take the bait and remove God from His throne. He waits with drool running down his forearms in hopes we will issue the edict - perhaps we will provide a burning scroll of damnation listing all persons we judge to be hell bound!

Wrong again.

 

[Walter]

Wrong again.

Wrong always is more like it.

 

[Goober]

Wrong always is more like it.

Lmao

 

[Cliffy]

I don't recall where, but did not Christ say somewhere something to the effect of"If you cannot believe in Me than believe in My message".

If that is true than it's the message that saves one not the person.

There is a famous Buddhist saying, follow the Law not the person.

The law being the teachings of Buddha.


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I don't recall that but it would not surprise me if Jesus said that. Many of his teachings were similar to the Buddha. It is quite possible that during those lost years (12 - 30 years old), the he spent time in India learning from their holy men. I believe his original message of his ministry was to bring the Hebrews out of the dark ages. I don't believe he ever wanted to start a world wide religion based on his own deification, but to waken everyone to their own divinity.

 

[gerryh]

Ahhhhhh yes. The silence is deafening.

 

[Locutus]

Being a non-religious guy, I just can't understand why there is so much animosity towards Christians period.

I'm talking about today in the same way nobody can come at me for whatever it was some settlers did when they came to North America.

Yes, there are extremes on every facet of this disco ball of religion and spirituality. That's a pain in the a s s and a head-shaker to be sure.

Personally I don't think that 'many Christians' are so intolerant any more than any other sect on the planet. People are people and sh!t will happen. If most everyone believes in the old 'Live and Let Live' adage, then why all the huffing and puffing? Let the other guy have his (little) belief, faith, book, idol or building.

 

[petros]

Tribalism. It's all about man's need to be part of a tribe.

 

[talloola]

Tribalism. It's all about man's need to be part of a tribe.

so, within tribes, 'does' anyone grow up in a tribe, then dare to be different, and have the guts to say so?
unless of course their life would be taken for speaking up, then they are forced to become a reluctant sheep.

 

[The Old Medic]

Let's hear why you find it so difficult to follow Jesus' teaching of tolerance.

Jesus was NOT tolerant of other religions. He stated clearly that the only way to heaven was through him.

Anyone that believes that e preached a tolerant approach to other religions, has never actually read the New Testament.

This concept of "toleration" is a very modern concept, pushed by those Churches that pull further and further away from being based on the Bible. Churches like the Anglicans, the Presbyterians, The United Methodists, the United Church, etc., etc.

Jesus does teach us to treat others as we would like to be treated. So, we should NOT attack those of another religious belief, but we SHOULD try to convert them to Christianity.

 

[gerryh]

Jesus was NOT tolerant of other religions. He stated clearly that the only way to heaven was through him.

Anyone that believes that e preached a tolerant approach to other religions, has never actually read the New Testament.

This concept of "toleration" is a very modern concept, pushed by those Churches that pull further and further away from being based on the Bible. Churches like the Anglicans, the Presbyterians, The United Methodists, the United Church, etc., etc.

Jesus does teach us to treat others as we would like to be treated. So, we should NOT attack those of another religious belief, but we SHOULD try to convert them to Christianity.

No, that's what the Bible "says" he had said.

 

[Twila]

but we SHOULD try to convert them to Christianity.

This might be where some of the intolerance comes from. Imagine if some one kept trying to convert you to something? I'd become pretty intolerant.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

So Dexter Sinister, omitting the latter part of my sentence might serve you well in the following post , but it deranges any view I was trying to make. Which seems to be lost on you , but maybe not. That would be jumping to conclusions as to why you just "glommed "over my post for your intentions.

That out of the way. I just realized that I do get touchy at being misquoted.

In that sentence you made a statement, then offered a justification for it, bridging the two clauses with the word "for" in its meaning of "because." I quoted your statement accurately and left out the justification, because I disagree with the statement and that's what I responded to, and omitted the justification because obviously I think it doesn't work or I wouldn't disagree. I don't see that it in any way deranges the view you were putting forward. I'd have made exactly the same point regardless of how much or how little of your sentence I'd cited. You were not misquoted.

 

[petros]

so, within tribes, 'does' anyone grow up in a tribe, then dare to be different, and have the guts to say so?
unless of course their life would be taken for speaking up, then they are forced to become a reluctant sheep.

Then you've picked the wrong tribe. Even being a dirt worshipping wiccan you're part of tribe. It's a choice not something forced.

No, that's what the Bible "says" he had said.

And the meaning taken the wrong way by many.

 

[cj44]

The points he made are valid and deserving of a better answer than leaving it up to God. Both of you have quoted scripture time and again. Reinforcing the points Ger has made.

Goober,

For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?"—1 Corinthians 4:7.

We don't even know our own hearts, why then should we judge anyone if we can not even judge ourselves? Judge doctrine if you want - my opinion is that Christ is who he says he was. I've posted often enough for all to know my opinion. I believe in the atoning sacrifice of Christ. Christ died for all, but not all will be saved. How am I (or anyone) to know how the Creator is working in an individual's heart? Jesus sort of frowned upon pronouncing judgments on others. And, to pronounce an eternal judgment upon someone is wicked.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

No, that's what the Bible "says" he had said.

That's the only source we have, there's nothing else to go by. Claiming a different and implicitly superior understanding due to personal revelation, as you do, isn't likely to impress anybody as authoritative.