Conservative Culture of Contempt

Goober

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And the contempt for veterans continues, Harper had no problem politicizing the war when it suited him, but now it´s time to pony up and help all the people who will often have lifelong challenges as a result.

You would be aware that all Members of the House voted unanimous for the New Veteran Charter. Not 1 Vets Org has come anywhere close to approving that POS legislation.
I listen to Hairdo slamming the Cons on their treatment of Vets, but he is not offering to repeal the Charter, now is he.
Nope, just BS and he walks that well.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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Awww... Has the last 8 years been that bad for ya'll?

Seems to me that the 'most Canadians' that you speak of are quite happy and content with the nice change of gvt from the environment of fraud and corruption of the former, er, party.

Who were they again?... I can't seem to remember that party since it has all but vanished from the face of the Earth after 'most Canadian' decided to vote them into oblivion.

You mean the Liberals, the party that is leading in the polls right now?

I don't give a **** who wins the next election, I just want it to be fair and the results based on the best evidence, but we don't even get that in this country after the conservatives have shut down every source of possible negative information possible, on issues that are of prime importance to Canadians.

It shouldn't be some ******* appointee of Harper's that is deciding our future, but that's what we have in Canada now. And if you don't think the PMO is full of *******s making stupid decisions then you really do have your head up your ***.
 

Goober

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You mean the Liberals, the party that is leading in the polls right now?

I don't give a **** who wins the next election, I just want it to be fair and the results based on the best evidence, but we don't even get that in this country after the conservatives have shut down every source of possible negative information possible, on issues that are of prime importance to Canadians.

It shouldn't be some ******* appointee of Harper's that is deciding our future, but that's what we have in Canada now. And if you don't think the PMO is full of *******s making stupid decisions then you really do have your head up your ***.

The below is really over the top.
Next we will see Soldiers in the streets. Oops- That was the Liberals stating it would occur.

Or a modern version of Gotterdamerung for Canada, I get the distinct impression that Harper and many of his devotees would much prefer taking this nation down than letting go of their death grip on it.

This isn´t politics as we´ve ever seen before here, it´s a coup in slow motion.

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DaSleeper

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You mean the Liberals, the party that is leading in the polls right now?

I don't give a **** who wins the next election, I just want it to be fair and the results based on the best evidence, but we don't even get that in this country after the conservatives have shut down every source of possible negative information possible, on issues that are of prime importance to Canadians.

It shouldn't be some ******* appointee of Harper's that is deciding our future, but that's what we have in Canada now. And if you don't think the PMO is full of *******s making stupid decisions then you really do have your head up your ***.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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I'm betting that like me most Canadians aren't interested in eating conservative **** for the rest of their lives. It might smell nice and yummy to you, but that's probably as a result of where your head has been jammed for years.

Just keep telling yourself it's chocolate pudding and I'm sure you'll never really notice the difference.

You mean the Liberals, the party that is leading in the polls right now?

I don't give a **** who wins the next election, I just want it to be fair and the results based on the best evidence, but we don't even get that in this country after the conservatives have shut down every source of possible negative information possible, on issues that are of prime importance to Canadians.

It shouldn't be some ******* appointee of Harper's that is deciding our future, but that's what we have in Canada now. And if you don't think the PMO is full of *******s making stupid decisions then you really do have your head up your ***.

Exactly as I thought. When it comes to a pointed question you revert to the shrill, but lack substance.
 

taxslave

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Yes, but how fair is the election going to be. There has been no real investigation into the robocalls scandal, just a lot of government foot dragging and a few disjointed cases being put forward for something to show people as "action" being done. We know for a fact that the current government has a fundamental contempt for the kind of government we're supposed to have and is to the point of encoding that into our laws.

We may have an election next year, but the chances are very good it's not going to be an open and honest accounting of the wishes of the Canadian people.



Yah, but mine has the cool alliteration in the title.:p

Meanwhile Ms. Entitlement sees no problem with how she's been acting.

Eve Adams calls riding allegations ‘categorically false’ | Toronto Star



When many MPs in the party show contempt for the rules or any real democratic tradition in Canada is it any wonder that some conservative MPs have come to think and act this way. The traditional limits in our Parliamentary system no longer apply to them, they just make it up as they go, the same way that Harper has been doing all along.

Hard to determine what the wishes of the Canadian people might be when in a good year 50% bother to vote. I constantly hear the same BS from the leftys in BC that claim the government does not listen to the people. A seat count in the leg would tend to indicate otherwise. Maybe you just got the wrong hymm book.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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So if you try and buy off a senator as part of an overall campaign to block a senate inquiry into illegal expenses the worst you can expect is to be named in a report.

Yup, we've got so much more transparency and accountability under this government.

Nigel Wright Probe: Ethics Commissioner Has Limited Ability To Penalize

But even if Dawson re-opens her probe, Wright may face few penalties if she finds against him. The ethics watchdog won’t be able to fine him — fines of up to $500 are only imposed for administrative errors or failures to disclose, her office confirmed. She will only be able to conduct an examination and publish a report.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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More contempt from the head of the Canadian Contempt Party.

Kathleen Wynne says Stephen Harper ‘smirked’ and said people should save for their own retirement | Toronto Star

Prime Minister Stephen Harper “smirked” and told Kathleen Wynne in a private meeting that Canadians need to save for their own retirement because‎ it’s not up to government to look after them, the Star has learned.

In a 45-minute meeting in Harper’s Centre Block office on Parliament Hill on Dec. 5‎, he apparently said his Conservative government has given people the ability to fend for themselves so there is no need to bolster the Canada Pension Plan.

Canada's McJob Crisis | industrialstrategy.ca

But that's not what industry is saying, they're talking about a crisis of Canada exporting manufacturing jobs forcing more Canadians to take several McJobs to survive, meaning less Canadians have a chance to save for retirement, not more.

And then there's the ongoing TFWs scandal that some foreign workers have been comparing to slavery.

We currently rank well in elderly poverty, but that won't last with the current governments policies.

Elderly Poverty

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/seniors-living-in-poverty-on-the-rise-in-canada-oecd-says-1.2440714

For instance, as poverty rates were falling in many OECD countries between 2007 and 2010, in Canada they rose about two percentage points.

As well, the report notes that public (government) transfers to seniors in Canada account for less than 39 per cent of the gross income of Canadian seniors, compared with the OECD average of 59 per cent, meaning more Canadians depend on workplace pensions to bridge the gap.

So at the same time that Harper is scoffing at the idea of providing some security for the elderly, he's also overseeing the restructuring of the Canadian economy that makes it harder for people to make living wages let alone save for retirement and beyond.
 

Count_Lothian

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Oh look the Cobalt Kidiot is shilling for Wynne. Who would thunk it?
And who are you shilling for?

The Cons don't have much to say about themselves so they turn to their little war chests and ridicule anything that might upset their delirium.

They can't speak up about much for it's all about lies, cheating, spin doctoring and the latest grand daddy of all promises "A Million Jobs for Ontario ".

The cons here at CC talk rough and know how to insult and then they fall flat.

Not like the old days when we were true Tories , and true to form.

But you take some con artist who stole the party from a flake and turn into what you have.

Even Manning distances himself from his protege, why don't you RCS?
Tell me you have not had a belly full of Harperism?
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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And who are you shilling for?

I'm not shilling for anyone.

The Cons don't have much to say about themselves so they turn to their little war chests and ridicule anything that might upset their delirium.

They can't speak up about much for it's all about lies, cheating, spin doctoring and the latest grand daddy of all promises "A Million Jobs for Ontario ".

The more you post the more I'm reminded of this guy.


The cons here at CC talk rough and know how to insult and then they fall flat.

Not like the old days when we were true Tories , and true to form.

But you take some con artist who stole the party from a flake and turn into what you have.

Man you are really bitter. The reform had a lot wrong with it. Albeit Manning was a plus, but it was chock full of bigots and knuckle draggers. The PC's under Joe Who were a train Wreck. Harper, for all his faults is the only alternative at the moment. It aint the Rock Star child King and it certainly isn't the NDP. If the liberals would dig their heads out of their rectum and stop trying to con us with the pretty boy, maybe bring forth a descent leader like Frank McKenna they have gotten my vote.

Even Manning distances himself from his protege, why don't you RCS?
Tell me you have not had a belly full of Harperism?

Harperism, Lefty propaganda spouted by a so called Conservative. Interesting.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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The conservative party under Harper reminds me of the Scientologists, if you criticize them in any way they go absolutely berserk as Kathleen Wynne is finding out after criticizing Hubbard...I mean Harper.

Clement and others are teeing off at Wynne for actually daring to question the divinity...I mean infallibility of their messiah...I mean leader.

Ontario Votes: Clement Keeps Up Federal Pressure On Wynne

Speaking on CBC News Network's Power & Politics, Clement called Wynne's provincial retirement plan proposal a "tax grab" designed to overshadow talk of past Liberal scandals.

"She doesn't want to talk about the gas plants scandal, she doesn't want to talk about E-health scandal. She wants to divert attention from her government's terrible record on these things as well as terrible economic record," he told host Evan Solomon. "So, I'm not going to play into her campaign strategy, quite frankly."

Maybe there are things the Ontario Liberals need to be coming clean on, but the federal conservatives have an appalling record when it comes to openness on things like the robocalls scandal, the senate scandal, the lack of accountability in the PMO and more.

I'm sure that Clement and those like him see no hypocrisy in their actions, but then religious fanatics never do and the current conservative party is far more like a religious movement than a traditional Canadian political party.
 

gerryh

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The conservative party under Harper reminds me of the Scientologists, if you criticize them in any way they go absolutely berserk as Kathleen Wynne is finding out after criticizing Hubbard...I mean Harper.


Really, and JT and his liberals are different how?
 

tay

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It couldn't happen to a nicer group of people. Tim Harper reports that the battle for the Conservative nomination in Oakville North-Burlington has become toxic:

Amidst a flurry of charges and countercharges involving membership fraud, intimidation and character assassination, the party took the extraordinary step of delaying a planned nomination showdown set for Saturday in the newly created but now suddenly infamous riding of Oakville North-Burlington.


The struggle for the party nod pits sitting MP Eve Adams, who wants to move over from her existing riding to this comfortable enclave, against Natalia Lishchyna, a chiropractor who thought the nomination would be hers until the Adams bulldozer headed west.
The irony is rich:

On the eve of a planned Saturday vote, the gang that brought you the oxymoronically named Fair Elections Act was accusing each other of vote suppression, overspending and harassing and illegal phone calls and had launched formal complaints with the party, Elections Canada and the CRTC.

Party spokesperson Cory Hann said Thursday the vote was on hold until complaints were reviewed because the party “believes in the integrity of our nomination process."

Integrity. Was that not the byword behind Stephen Harper's ascension? Of course, there's the whole back story of the Adams-Dimitri Soudas romance. No, this has nothing to do with integrity. It merely offers proof once again that, when the going gets tough, the Harper Party eats its own.