The difference between Spirituality and Religion

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I have a kink in my back between my shoulderblades, apparently a foot massage with high heels is supposed to take my mind off it. Hint, hint.

Please read the aforementioned in sarcastic tone. lol
 

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No, that isn't the way it works. If you don't understand the book then a time will come where it will be gently explained to you through 'proof via works'. Come talk to me after that happens and we'll see if you have the same opinion then. In the meantime enjoy the meantime.


Especially just after the cross whem he was naked in the boat when he was trying to seduce the Beloved Disciple (Mary of Bethany) I'm pretty sure that event was why Peter insisted he be hung upside down.

Ohboy that sounds juicy can't wait to read the rest. Mary of the house of bread got around if you believe all the stories.
 

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The OT wasn't found in any home and none of the writers of the NT (except Saul) had any duties that would have them be the equal of Priests in the temple.
Relevance?
I think a lot of people are more stupid than me about the Bible, that would most certainly include you
lmao That coming from the moonbat who thinks he's the one and only person to ever decode the Bible. Frackin hilarious.
 

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Ohboy that sounds juicy can't wait to read the rest. Mary of the house of bread got around if you believe all the stories.
When you are a Disciple of John the Baptist you aren't a floozy. The children in the verses below are Gentiles she brought into the Church. Sorry to take some of the soap opera out of the story.

2Jo:1:1:
The elder unto the elect lady and her children,
whom I love in the truth;
and not I only,
but also all they that have known the truth;

2Jo:1:4:
I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth,
as we have received a commandment from the Father.

2Jo:1:13:
The children of thy elect sister greet thee.
Amen.

Relevance?
lmao That coming from the moonbat who thinks he's the one and only person to ever decode the Bible. Frackin hilarious.
It would hard to write a sequel if you didn't know what was in the first part.

So you want me to not insult you so you can do it to me. Dispute anything I promote with something a little more substantial that this post. I don't recall saying the 'one and only', only more than you and that is no exaggeration. Go ahead show me your wisdom about the Bible? A blank page is not really going to intimidate me.
 

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It would hard to write a sequel if you didn't know what was in the first part.
Yep. So once someone introduced an event or an idea in the Bible, there was no need for others to keep rewording it into their own versions. What that has done has resulted in the faithful listing all those instances as "proof" of each other.

So you want me to not insult you so you can do it to me.
That's a pretty sorry attempt at putting the ad hominem volley on me. Scroll back and you'll notice that you tossed out the first insult and I simply replied that I will RETURN them in kind. Basically, that means if you continue, I will. And if you stop, I will.
Dispute anything I promote with something a little more substantial that this post. I don't recall saying the 'one and only',
No, you didn't. But no other person, scholar or not, has arbitrarily picked numbers as multiples and applied them to the Bible in order to make it line up with events that happened in real life. No-one else has claimed to have decoded the Bible in its entirety except you.
only more than you and that is no exaggeration.
I admitted that before and I can do that again. So?
Go ahead show me your wisdom about the Bible?
The OT; a fantasy tale about a grand wizard who can "see" everything including the future, is wise beyond count, and powerful enough to be able to do anything it wants including inventing a universe, filling it with life and stuff, then getting pissed at the life more times than you can count and destroying a lot of stuff. All of which belies the all-powerful, all-seeing, and all-wise nonsense. The NT; a bunch of tales serving to indicate the "Golden Rule" and accentuate the wisdom, omniscience, and omnipotence indicated in the OT.
A blank page is not really going to intimidate me.
Why would anyone want to do that anyway?
 

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That's a pretty sorry attempt at putting the ad hominem volley on me. Scroll back and you'll notice that you tossed out the first insult and I simply replied that I will RETURN them in kind. Basically, that means if you continue, I will. And if you stop, I will.
it's the Christian thing to do :lol:
 

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and on that note I remember an old Baptist neighbour of mine and a conversation we had regarding the Bible when I was just a teen. He was a super cool old guy. Told me he had read the bible so many times he had lost count. I told him I had never read the bible.

Well he said rubbing his whiskers...it don't matter how many times ya read the bible it only matters how much of the bible is in you.

I've always thought that was a wonderful way to measure who really knew the bible.
 

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and on that note I remember an old Baptist neighbour of mine and a conversation we had regarding the Bible when I was just a teen. He was a super cool old guy. Told me he had read the bible so many times he had lost count. I told him I had never read the bible.

Well he said rubbing his whiskers...it don't matter how many times ya read the bible it only matters how much of the bible is in you.

I've always thought that was a wonderful way to measure who really knew the bible.
Read some of it. Can't remember ever eating any of it, though.
 

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I probably have, too. Mostly from reading posts here probably. I blame M. Hz, Mr. 44, and a few others for that. I'll take your word for it. :)

Yeah when I really started searching I started with my roots...reading it daily....

later I read a lot of the bible because we were analysing it from a literary perspective....

i have no problem with it or those who base their life upon it's 'wisdoms'.....still though, the only thing that matters is the love displayed toward others

in the end it won't matter how much one reads the bible, only how one behaves and that goes for if we die and there's nothing after or if we die and go home
 

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Yep. So once someone introduced an event or an idea in the Bible, there was no need for others to keep rewording it into their own versions. What that has done has resulted in the faithful listing all those instances as "proof" of each other.
Not if you want multiple prophecies about an event, even more important than that is splitting them up so no one prophet knew the whole story, same method was used when build 'the bomb' and information was on a need to know basis. Part of the reason for that is to keep some thing as a 'mystery'. Such as references in the OT that bless a people in a way that Israel thinks it means them when it was actually referencing the Gentiles after Act:10 was a past event. 40 writers that were each given a part of a story so your theory that they added to it 'correctly'. That would mean the writer of Revelation would realize that an ending was needed so Re:20-22 was 'dreamed up'.

That's a pretty sorry attempt at putting the ad hominem volley on me. Scroll back and you'll notice that you tossed out the first insult and I simply replied that I will RETURN them in kind. Basically, that means if you continue, I will. And if you stop, I will.
Point out the ones I posted after your post referencing where you got your 'inspiration' from because it certainly isn't from the Bible. Men do their best thinking when drinking, a hangover is part of drinking, if I wanted it to be an insult I would have said 'many hangovers'. I think you are just extra sensitive to criticism, let alone from me. (that is your bigotry showing it's colors) I'm also thinking you like tossing out insults and posting them to me stops others on the board from criticizing you. That you never win should be all you need to 'can the comedy' because you aren't very good at it.

No, you didn't. But no other person, scholar or not, has arbitrarily picked numbers as multiples and applied them to the Bible in order to make it line up with events that happened in real life.
You better start watching some programs about the '4 blood moons' then if you want to see some preachers who don't have a clue what the Bible is about. You can't get something that wrong

No-one else has claimed to have decoded the Bible in its entirety except you.
It isn't in a code any more difficult than a person needs to know how the world works today, including the things we know that they did not know back when it was written, such as the world is 4,000,000,000 years old rather than 4,000 years ane the 6 best steps top blend that info is to add 6 zeros and then Ge:1 fits todays version of science very nicely. I could supply more (and better) examples but why waste my time.

I admitted that before and I can do that again. So?
So you admit I know more about the Bible but then you call bull**** on everything I say, you want to have you being right no matter what. If you want me to respect that sort of behavior it isn't ever going to happen. I doubt you even know how 'my version' differs.

The OT; a fantasy tale about a grand wizard who can "see" everything including the future, is wise beyond count, and powerful enough to be able to do anything it wants including inventing a universe, filling it with life and stuff, then getting pissed at the life more times than you can count and destroying a lot of stuff.
What part of the last 3 chapters point to that? The rest of it just shows you should stay off the theology threads.

All of which belies the all-powerful, all-seeing, and all-wise nonsense.
Your version is the only version, ... right? It can't make sense to anybody if it doesn't make sense to you.

The NT; a bunch of tales serving to indicate the "Golden Rule" and accentuate the wisdom, omniscience, and omnipotence indicated in the OT.
Your version is the only version, ... right? It can't make sense to anybody if it doesn't make sense to you.

Why would anyone want to do that anyway?
You just did, what you know about the Bible put onto paper would be a blank page yet you somehow know my understanding is 4 sheets to the wind. You get no respect for that trait either.

Read some of it. Can't remember ever eating any of it, though.
Do you even understan that the easy stuff id milk and the more difficult parts are called meat?

1Co:3:2:
I have fed you with milk,
and not with meat:
for hitherto ye were not able to bear it,
neither yet now are ye able.

1Pe:2:2:
As newborn babes,
desire the sincere milk of the word,
that ye may grow thereby:
 

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Not if you want multiple prophecies about an event, even more important than that is splitting them up so no one prophet knew the whole story, same method was used when build 'the bomb' and information was on a need to know basis. Part of the reason for that is to keep some thing as a 'mystery'. Such as references in the OT that bless a people in a way that Israel thinks it means them when it was actually referencing the Gentiles after Act:10 was a past event. 40 writers that were each given a part of a story so your theory that they added to it 'correctly'. That would mean the writer of Revelation would realize that an ending was needed so Re:20-22 was 'dreamed up'.
So clarity from the Bible is out of the question. No wonder scholars are still arguing over contexts and meanings.

Point out the ones I posted after your post referencing where you got your 'inspiration' from because it certainly isn't from the Bible. Men do their best thinking when drinking, a hangover is part of drinking, if I wanted it to be an insult I would have said 'many hangovers'.
And the evidence for this is ....?
I think you are just extra sensitive to criticism, let alone from me. (that is your bigotry showing it's colors) I'm also thinking you like tossing out insults and posting them to me stops others on the board from criticizing you. That you never win should be all you need to 'can the comedy' because you aren't very good at it.
SO this is more of you doing your "best" thinking then? lol


You better start watching some programs about the '4 blood moons' then if you want to see some preachers who don't have a clue what the Bible is about. You can't get something that wrong
We haven't got tv service. If they're that wrong then why would we want to watch anyway?


It isn't in a code any more difficult than a person needs to know how the world works today, including the things we know that they did not know back when it was written, such as the world is 4,000,000,000 years old rather than 4,000 years ane the 6 best steps top blend that info is to add 6 zeros and then Ge:1 fits todays version of science very nicely. I could supply more (and better) examples but why waste my time.
Good point.


So you admit I know more about the Bible but then you call bull**** on everything I say,
Yep. All throughout history, gods have been invented by humans and this is no exception.
you want to have you being right no matter what. If you want me to respect that sort of behavior it isn't ever going to happen. I doubt you even know how 'my version' differs.
You're still taking the Bible at its word. It's a piece of fiction based upon a fictional character (s) so it really doesn't matter what your version is.

What part of the last 3 chapters point to that? The rest of it just shows you should stay off the theology threads.


Your version is the only version, ... right? It can't make sense to anybody if it doesn't make sense to you.


Your version is the only version, ... right? It can't make sense to anybody if it doesn't make sense to you.


You just did, what you know about the Bible put onto paper would be a blank page yet you somehow know my understanding is 4 sheets to the wind. You get no respect for that trait either.
Someone once counted all the people in the Bible that were murdered by your god, and some for very trivial excuses, and the result was that over 10 million deaths attributed to your "loving" god. And that was without counting a few populations in cities. Your god , by its omniscience should have known that humans would turn out to be screwups (sinners) and supposedly being all-powerful, could have done all kinds of stuff to prevent it, but didn't. There's little about your god and its antics that is rational. It's fiction, and not even good fiction.
 

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And the evidence for this is ....? SO this is more of you doing your "best" thinking then? lol

Someone once counted all the people in the Bible that were murdered by your god, and some for very trivial excuses, and the result was that over 10 million deaths attributed to your "loving" god. And that was without counting a few populations in cities. Your god , by its omniscience should have known that humans would turn out to be screwups (sinners) and supposedly being all-powerful, could have done all kinds of stuff to prevent it, but didn't. There's little about your god and its antics that is rational. It's fiction, and not even good fiction.
Did I say 'best'? In my 'best' you don't even rate a single thought. The alternative is you are just a jackass on the loose.

After reading the last 3 chapters how many of those are still dead? All the others that ever lived and died is how many Satan killed, that would be about 10 billion and Satan can't bring back to life even one of them, so God does it. You should read it so you know what you are talking about.
 

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Did I say 'best'? In my 'best' you don't even rate a single thought. The alternative is you are just a jackass on the loose.

After reading the last 3 chapters how many of those are still dead? All the others that ever lived and died is how many Satan killed, that would be about 10 billion and Satan can't bring back to life even one of them, so God does it. You should read it so you know what you are talking about.
Take it easy MHZ. If anyone is going to wear that title - "jackass on the loose" - I demand it be me. I'd like that placard on my office door. People would think twice before interupting me.
 

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Did I say 'best'? In my 'best' you don't even rate a single thought. The alternative is you are just a jackass on the loose.
And yet I am still more than you can handle. :)

After reading the last 3 chapters how many of those are still dead? All the others that ever lived and died is how many Satan killed, that would be about 10 billion and Satan can't bring back to life even one of them, so God does it. You should read it so you know what you are talking about.
Sorry, but the fellow that counted all the people your god murdered also counted all the people mentioned in the Bible that Satan killed; there were none.

Meh, reincarnation is a lot older than the Bible. What's more is that there's no evidence supporting it.
 

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Take it easy MHZ. If anyone is going to wear that title - "jackass on the loose" - I demand it be me. I'd like that placard on my office door. People would think twice before interupting me.
Excuse me but .... on second though never mind. Did I get that part right? If it catch on and you become a millionaire do I get a Christmas gift? (a little one will do) With me it would be something like a 'cornered jackass: beware'