Colonizing MARS

karrie

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The health risk is significantly different due to its duration. There is no point in trying to downplay it.


Like you say, people will take the risk anyway. It's been a short amount of time in terms of humanity's history, since people jumped aboard ships knowing it could mean their lives, and headed to North America in order to start a new life. It was an endeavour that never would have happened without us spending human lives to achieve it. Most human expansion has come at the expense of human lives. But it's served society well.
 

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More than a thousand candidates shortlisted for life on Mars
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First posted: Thursday, January 02, 2014 07:41 PM EST | Updated: Thursday, January 02, 2014 07:54 PM EST
AMSTERDAM - A mission to put humans on Mars that drew 200,000 applicants has selected more than a thousand candidates who will now be tested to come up with a final list of 24 would-be Mars-dwellers.
Mars One was set up in 2011 by two Dutch men with the goal of establishing permanent human life on Mars in 2025. They hope the project will be funded by investors and the rights from the documentary-***-reality TV broadcasting of the tests, training and final selection.
The 1,058 candidates who got through to the first round come from all over the world. By far the largest number - 297 - are American, followed by 75 Canadians and 62 Indians.
They must now undergo rigorous tests, including simulations of life on Mars and coping with isolation, co-founder Bas Lansdorp said.
"The challenge with 200,000 applicants is separating those who we feel are physically and mentally adept to become human ambassadors on Mars from those who are obviously taking the mission much less seriously," Lansdorp said.
Jacqueline Storey, a press officer at the National Maritime Museum, poses for a photograph in front of images of Mars generated by NASA's Curiosity Rover at their new Visions of the Universe exhibition, in Greenwich, London June 5, 2013. REUTERS/Andrew Winning

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Toronto man on shortlist for Mars colonization
By Kevin Connor ,Toronto Sun
First posted: Sunday, January 05, 2014 02:26 PM EST | Updated: Sunday, January 05, 2014 09:57 PM EST
Stephen Fenech is no reluctant astronaut, even though the trip he hopes to make will take him from Earth forever.
Toronto’s Fenech is now a one-percenter with the Mars One gang, a project with the goal of colonizing the fourth planet from the sun.
Mars One, a not-for-profit Netherlands-based organization behind the colonization effort, plans to make a reality TV show about the selection of the 40-person crew for the trip to the Red Planet.
Fenech said he welcomes the opportunity to participate in mankind’s first effort to sprawl across the galaxy — even though it is a one-way trip.
“I see the value in going. Our sun is getting brighter and some day it won’t support life. The only way to be prepared is to set out (to Mars) now. It’s a historic undertaking,” said Fenech, 45, who has travelled to 160 counties but never lost his childhood dream of leaving the planet.
The multibillion-dollar project — which attracted more than 200,000 applicants eager to become Martians — has just secured contracts with Lockheed Martin for the mission’s 2018 launch that will include a robotic lander and a communications satellite to start the settlement.
The 1,000 finalists will be cut to 40. That group will be sent to colonize Mars in 2023.
“We have taken some very big steps and it’s an exciting time,” Mars Once CEO Bas Lansdorp said from the company’s headquarters in the Netherlands.
He said fundraising for the 2018 launch is going well as about half of the $400,000 needed for the project’s first phase has been secured.
Aspects of the project are compelling, said Donna Frances, a research programmer with the Ontario Science Centre.
“In terms of the project’s feasibility ... it’s hard to know without them having assembled an idea for the rocket,” Frances said.
NASA has teams of engineers and scientists to accomplish such missions, but very few privately-funded companies have had success with an epic project because there is a lack of know-how, infrastructure and money.
“If NASA was to say ‘We are going to do it,’ we would say ‘OK’ and everyone would be excited,” Frances said.
“One thing that is interesting (with Mars One) is the reality show aspect. People would be able to see themselves in these astronauts and get into that dream, even if it is from afar. Mankind has a natural desire to explore. But are companies going to sponsor this on the chance it will happen?”
Fenech said that being an award-winning photographer and filmmaker helped him make the cut as he would be an asset in documenting the colonization of Mars.
Currently, he works in the control room at The Shopping Channel.
“My background in television could help with the reality show,” Fenech added.
This first round of finalists will now be put through a battery of medical and psychological tests, which are under wraps so no one can get an advantage, Lansdorp said.
There will also be group challenges to judge motivation and team skills.
Those selected to go to Mars will have to prove they have skills required to meet the needs of the colony, such as erecting solar panels and the construction of food-growing equipment — a vital component for producing oxygen.
Candidates will also be quizzed about leaving their loved ones behind.
“If I was in my 20s, I might have second thoughts. I almost got married two times, but it didn’t work out, so I would just be leaving may parents behind. Just because I wouldn’t physically be in the same space doesn’t mean I wouldn’t still be in touch with them,” Fenech said.
There were 297 U.S. candidates selected in this round of cuts and Canada had the second-highest number selected with 75.
“Canada had the highest number of applicants per capita. I don’t think it is a coincidence because they are descendents of explorers and they want to explore the final frontier,” Lansdorp said.
Fenech said he is aware there is a risk of going out in a bang when moving to another planet.
“I don’t mind being a guinea pig,” he added.
Steve Fenech, of Toronto, who is on the shortlist of candidates for a one-way expedition to Mars, seen Saturday, January 4, 2014. (Dave Thomas/Toronto Sun)

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Meet the Volunteers Willing to Go to Mars and Never Come Back








"Mars One Way" documents the thought process of Cody Reeder, Casey Hunter, Will Robbins, Katelyn Kane, and Ken Sullivan. The five applicants all come from different backgrounds but have one similarity: they are more curious about life on Mars than attached to their current living situation on Earth.


The whole situation sounds as if it were lifted from a movie at best or an elaborate prank at worst. But it's all real life. Of the other volunteers profiled, a couple said they could change their mind. Hunter could be swayed away from the trip if he proposed to his girlfriend. Reeder said his girlfriend's telling him not to go might make him think otherwise.


That said, Hunter compares his life to that of a "turd in the toilet bowl of life. I just kind of float."






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Meet the Volunteers Willing to Go to Mars and Never Come Back
 

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The Space program was a product of the great optimism, prosperity and equity that followed WW2, an antidote to the Cold War's cynicism.

We live in much different times now, one of a collapsing culture, debasement of science (AGW, modern cosmology amongst other examples), economic decline, polarization of wealth, disassembly of consensus.

Imho.. a program of vision and enterprize on the scale of the Moon Mission would be impossible in the circumstances of the West now.
 

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The Space program was a product of the great optimism, prosperity and equity that followed WW2

America may have been prosperous in the 1950s and 1960s thanks to all that British money that it received for all those crappy old American weapons during the War but it wasn't the same for every nation, of course.

Wow. Britain exploiting an entire race of people to colonize someplace their invading.

Sounds good to me. What's the problem?
 

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There were 297 U.S. candidates selected in this round of cuts and Canada had the second-highest number selected with 75.
“Canada had the highest number of applicants per capita. I don’t think it is a coincidence because they are descendents of explorers and they want to explore the final frontier,” Lansdorp said.
Fenech said he is aware there is a risk of going out in a bang when moving to another planet.
“I don’t mind being a guinea pig,” he added.
Steve Fenech, of Toronto, who is on the shortlist of candidates for a one-way expedition to Mars, seen Saturday, January 4, 2014. (Dave Thomas/Toronto Sun)

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Although, for some reason, Canada is one of just a very few countries in which more women have applied than men.
 

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Not a chance. The only things Brits ever got right were the Austin Mini and the Rolls Royce Merlin

Don't forget the Spitfire, the Lancaster, the Concorde, the mini skirt, the red telephone box, the London Underground Map, black cabs, the Aston Martin, the Jaguar, fish and chips, British curries (chicken tikka masala, Balti), Sherlock Holmes, red pillar boxes, the Routemaster, Tomb Raider, Grand Theft Auto, football, cricket, golf, darts, rugby, badminton, tennis, table tennis, Thoroughbred Horseracing, hockey, ice hockey, baseball, Shakespeare, Big Ben, ham and cucumber butties, country houses, villages festooned in colourful flowers in springtime, the perfume smell of flowers and blossom on a warm spring or summer's day, ancient castles (more than any other country in Europe), Top Gear, Downton Abbey, Sherlock, Midsomer Murders, Undercover Boss, The X Factor, Parade's End, Come Dine With Me, Doctor Who, Only Fools and Horses, Coronation Street, Eastenders, Emmerdale, Blackadder, One Foot In The Grave, Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em, Keeping Up Appearances, Fawlty Towers, Monty Python's Flying Circus, real ale, cider (drinking it whilst watching the village cricket team).

And I'm sure there'll be many others I'll eventually think of.

We don't keep our womenfolk chained to the stove.


That's because all Canadian "men" are in the kitchen wearing the pinnies rather than doing men's jobs.

Canada is a country in which the men bake cakes and the women go to Mars.
 

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Don't forget the Spitfire, the Lancaster, the Concorde, the mini skirt, the red telephone box, the London Underground Map, black cabs, the Aston Martin, the Jaguar, fish and chips, British curries (chicken tikka masala, Balti), Sherlock Holmes, red pillar boxes, the Routemaster, Tomb Raider, Grand Theft Auto, football, cricket, golf, darts, rugby, badminton, tennis, table tennis, Thoroughbred Horseracing, Shakespeare, Big Ben, ham and cucumber butties, country houses, villages festooned in colourful flowers in springtime, the perfume smell of flowers and blossom on a warm spring or summer's day, ancient castles (more than any other country in Europe), Top Gear, Only Fools and Horses, Coronation Street, Eastenders, Emmerdale, Blackadder, One Foot In The Grave, Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em, Keeping Up Appearances, Fawlty Towers, Monty Python's Flying Circus, real ale, cider (drinking it whilst watching the village cricket team).

And I'm sure there'll be many others I'll eventually think of.

Are you calling my very British grandfather a liar?

Spit and British Lanc couldn't fly without the Merlin - and France was in on the Concorde. The rest is filler....
That's because all Canadian "men" are in the kitchen wearing the pinnies rather than doing men's jobs.

Canada is a country in which the men bake cakes and the women go to Mars.

I live alone and don't bake. Wrong again....
 

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Are you calling my very British grandfather a liar?

Yep.

Spit and British Lanc couldn't fly without the Merlin

Planes tend not to be very airworthy without engines. Even British ones.

- and France was in on the Concorde.

Only because the Yanks weren't interested in our idea when we approached them so we approached Froggy instead.

It was the British who came up with Concorde.

The rest is filler....

The rest is just a very shortened list of all the other things the British have got right.

I live alone

That's probably because your woman is going to Mars.