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JLM

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our daughters played high quality ice hockey, had a nice league with teams all over the lower mainland.
one sunday, when we were watching our game, a boys team came in to get ready for their ice time after
our game ended.
one of the boys mothers came to me and said "these girls shouldn't be allowed to take ice time that our
boys could have, after all our boys are trying to get to the nhl, and those girls can't go anywhere.
i looked at her and said "your attitude is a good reason your son will never get to the nhl", the
closed mind of this woman was pitiful.

Yeah, it takes all kinds. Our kids were in all kinds of organized sports, hockey, soccer, rugby, swimming etc. and my philosophy was always while they are under the coach's direction, parents should just keep their mouth shut and stay out of it. If the coach needs input from a parent he'll let them know. Once in a blue moon they do happen to get a sh*tty coach.................that's when they get a good lesson about life! -:)
 

talloola

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Yeah, it takes all kinds. Our kids were in all kinds of organized sports, hockey, soccer, rugby, swimming etc. and my philosophy was always while they are under the coach's direction, parents should just keep their mouth shut and stay out of it. If the coach needs input from a parent he'll let them know. Once in a blue moon they do happen to get a sh*tty coach.................that's when they get a good lesson about life! -:)

for hockey and ball we were in a position of coaching,managing,and organizational members, so we were
part of a bit of everything, and we saw some wacky behavior from parents especially, a few coaches,
but mostly parents who seemed to think we were always trying to cheat and pay attention to certain
players, and not treat their child fairly, we could never win, so we just did the best we could,
and centered our energy on the kids, which wasn't just the teams we were involved, but all of the
teams in the organization as well.
its amazing how many kids we taxied around, because parents just weren't home, and kids were just
left to figure out things by themselves, so consequently we would get the phone call, "could
someone pick me up?" we got kids to their games somehow, almost always.
if certain teams won too much, we were accused of stacking teams so
that the teams we wanted to win, did. amazing.
but the majority of parents were great, very helpful and very fair,
but it only takes a few groups to upset the cart, and make life
complicated.
two coaches from our league came screaming into our kitchen one day,
hollering and shouting at each other, a man and a woman, we slowly
got things calmed down, but the woman stomped out, only to come knocking
on the door with her gearshift in her hand, and sheepishly asked if
my husband knew how to put it back in place.
later on we laughed till we cried, along with our daughters.
many mixed memories.
 
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JLM

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for hockey and ball we were in a position of coaching,managing,and organizational members, so we were
part of a bit of everything, and we saw some wacky behavior from parents especially, a few coaches,
but mostly parents who seemed to think we were always trying to cheat and pay attention to certain
players, and not treat their child fairly, we could never win, so we just did the best we could,
and centered our energy on the kids, which wasn't just the teams we were involved, but all of the
teams in the organization as well.
its amazing how many kids we taxied around, because parents just weren't home, and kids were just
left to figure out things by themselves, so consequently we would get the phone call, "could
someone pick me up?" we got kids to their games somehow, almost always.
if certain teams won too much, we were accused of stacking teams so
that the teams we wanted to win, did. amazing.
but the majority of parents were great, very helpful and very fair,
but it only takes a few groups to upset the cart, and make life
complicated.
two coaches from our league came screaming into our kitchen one day,
hollering and shouting at each other, a man and a woman, we slowly
got things calmed down, but the woman stomped out, only to come knocking
on the door with her gearshift in her hand, and sheepishly asked if
my husband knew how to put it back in place.
later on we laughed till we cried, along with our daughters.
many mixed memories.

When our son was about 9, in Courtenay he was on the Rep team...........Pee Wee I believe and they had excellent coaches as far as hockey strategy was concerned and they won more than their share of games, but I thought it was a little too intense for 9 year olds. I personally believe at that age there are more important aspects than winning at ALL costs. A lot of the parents were too intense as well.

Canada girls > USA 3-2


I was disappointed but am hopeful that we'll do better next time in the knockout rounds.

You guys were lucky it was only 3-2! -:)
 

BornRuff

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Looks like the Krauts got ahead of us. H.T.F. did that happen? Gotta respect them Norvegians, per capita they are miles ahead of everyone.

Well, all but two of them are in events that are literally classified as "Nordic" events, so I guess it should be expected.
 

talloola

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When our son was about 9, in Courtenay he was on the Rep team...........Pee Wee I believe and they had excellent coaches as far as hockey strategy was concerned and they won more than their share of games, but I thought it was a little too intense for 9 year olds. I personally believe at that age th
what i have found from years of experience with kids, is that many kids are very competetive and want
the intense conpetition, and need that level of play, while others are not, so parents must be in charge
of what level they want their kids to play, and they have to deal with their own kids and know just how
competetive their kid is, and between the parent and the child, decide at what level their child will
play.


there is nothing wrong with rep teams, that level is there for the highest achievement of competition,
and so on down the line.
some children won't feel comfortable at that level till they are older, some don't want anything to do with
rep teams, and some love it, 'let' the child fit in where he/she feels happiest and most comfortable.

some parents try to shove their child into a rep level when they are not ready, and some parents will not allow their child to play rep level, it just take all kinds, thats life.

i have known parents who keep their child from playing rep level because'they themselves' are not competetive, but
the child is, and very talented, so that child is put into house league, and made to play at a level he
finds ok, does not have to try his best, as he is allready the best on the team, so he becomes either bored,
or if he wants, he helps others, nothing wrong with that, but the child will not improve much, as he
doesn't have any challenge from others.

parents must know their own child and see 'what' he/she is really like, what he/she really wants, and really
doesn't matter how intense others parents are at games, it is the coaches and players who are important, and
parents who act like idiots only make themselves look bad, and sometimes embarrass their own kids.

i remember one parent of a 10 year old girl on our team, who got so wrapped up in what he thought was
a bad call, that he began climbing up the wire fencing around the rink, till he was right at the
top, then he calmed down looked around, and his friend down on the floor was calmly urging him to
climb back down, which he did. he wasn't even 'that' type of parent, just got caught up in the moment,
and didn't seem to realize what he did, he climbed back down and went back into his old self, and the
game went on.
 

petros

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what i have found from years of experience with kids, is that many kids are very competetive and want
the intense conpetition, and need that level of play, while others are not, so parents must be in charge
of what level they want their kids to play, and they have to deal with their own kids and know just how
competetive their kid is, and between the parent and the child, decide at what level their child will
play.


there is nothing wrong with rep teams, that level is there for the highest achievement of competition,
and so on down the line.
some children won't feel comfortable at that level till they are older, some don't want anything to do with
rep teams, and some love it, 'let' the child fit in where he/she feels happiest and most comfortable.

some parents try to shove their child into a rep level when they are not ready, and some parents will not allow their child to play rep level, it just take all kinds, thats life.

i have known parents who keep their child from playing rep level because'they themselves' are not competetive, but
the child is, and very talented, so that child is put into house league, and made to play at a level he
finds ok, does not have to try his best, as he is allready the best on the team, so he becomes either bored,
or if he wants, he helps others, nothing wrong with that, but the child will not improve much, as he
doesn't have any challenge from others.

parents must know their own child and see 'what' he/she is really like, what he/she really wants, and really
doesn't matter how intense others parents are at games, it is the coaches and players who are important, and
parents who act like idiots only make themselves look bad, and sometimes embarrass their own kids.

i remember one parent of a 10 year old girl on our team, who got so wrapped up in what he thought was
a bad call, that he began climbing up the wire fencing around the rink, till he was right at the
top, then he calmed down looked around, and his friend down on the floor was calmly urging him to
climb back down, which he did. he wasn't even 'that' type of parent, just got caught up in the moment,
and didn't seem to realize what he did, he climbed back down and went back into his old self, and the
game went on.
In Regina we had two leagues. City which you had to try out for and parks and rec which nobody was cut.

I played City League

It was hard work and you had to stay fit year round to make the grade.

It took a lot of passion and dedication for the sport which my parents couldn't provide. It was all me.

Their support was great but they never pushed and neither did the coaches.

The coaches I had would find as many tourneys and exhibition games to keep us on the ice and cohesive as a team.

There were some parents that rode their kids and made them miserable and not want to play which is too bad, some could have gone the distance without their a-hole parents taking away the enjoyment of playing.
 

talloola

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In Regina we had two leagues. City which you had to try out for and parks and rec which nobody was cut.

It was hard work and you had to stay fit year round to make the grade.

It took a lot of passion and dedication for the sport which my parents couldn't provide. It was all me.

Their support was great but they never pushed and neither did the coaches.

The coaches I had would find as many tourneys and exhibition games to keep us on the ice and cohesive as a team.

There were some parents that rode their kids and made them miserable and not want to play which is too bad, some could have gone the distance without their a-hole parents taking away the enjoyment of playing.

yeah, we saw that behavior too, its a shame.
 

JLM

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It is indeed a shame to see talent wasted because of parents trying to fulfil their dreams through their children.

It's amazing they can't see how ridiculous they look. Like "my 7 year old son is going to be another Wayne Gretzky".
 

petros

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It's amazing they can't see how ridiculous they look. Like "my 7 year old son is going to be another Wayne Gretzky".
Wayne Gretzky became as good as he did because Walter supported his passion and dedication for the game.
 

talloola

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Wayne Gretzky became as good as he did because Walter supported his passion and dedication for the game.

gretzy's dad knew how to be very balanced, didn't allow his son to become arrogant, always showed him
how he could be better, while supporting what he could see was a very special level of talent.