Are Palestinians the Indigenous People of Palestine?

Machjo

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Hebrews are people that speak Hebrew. Jews are separate from that distinction although some Jews speak Hebrew, in which case they can also be Hebrew, but not all Jews speak Hebrew.

True. I think the confusion lies in the fact that such a high population of Jews being of Hebrew ethnicity or Hebrew speaking and vice versa, but they are still separate.
 

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Judaism is NOT a race--though our enemies love to call us a race. Any person of any race is welcome to convert to Judaism...if Judaism were a race, you could not convert to become a Jew. Nobody can convert to become another race--but anyone can become Jewish. There are Jews of all races and colors--for proof, just look at a city street in Israel. I want to make an important point here: Many people (including Jews) think the emphasis on Jews marrying other Jews is repulsive racist thinking. I would be repulsed to...if Judaism were a race...but it is not. Again, Judaism is a way of life.
 

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lmao What race is a Chinese Jew? Or a Nigerian Jew? A Peruvian Jew?

Good look in your endeavours to find the Lesser Spotted Chinese Jew.

Just under half the world's Jews live in Israel and just under half live in the USA. And they're all of the same race.
 

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Good look in your endeavours to find the Lesser Spotted Chinese Jew.

Just under half the world's Jews live in Israel and just under half live in the USA. And they're all of the same race.

The Falasha and Chinese Jews look nothing like one another racially.

Also, the idea of the atheist Jew is an oxymoron.
 

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The Falasha and Chinese Jews look nothing like one another racially.

Also, the idea of the atheist Jew is an oxymoron.

Out of 1.3 billion Chinese, only around 5000 are Jewish.

And, even though they don't look it, they also claim to have the same lineage as other Jews.
 

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Surely we can have, even heated one, a discussion - without the need to call other members racist.

I know a lot of you love your labels : blank-a-phobe, blank-a-ist, denier, truther, drone, scone, obamafone and such...but c'mon, it pretty much ends the debate and then before ya know it, everyone is a goddamn racist-homophobic, jew-hatin', nazi-symp neocon with wife-beating tendencies and daddy issues.
 

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Surely we can have, even heated one, a discussion - without the need to call other members racist.

I know a lot of you love your labels : blank-a-phobe, blank-a-ist, denier, truther, drone, scone, obamafone and such...but c'mon, it pretty much ends the debate and then before ya know it, everyone is a goddamn racist-homophobic, jew-hatin', nazi-symp neocon with wife-beating tendencies and daddy issues.
Can you tell me what we call a racist when they are racist?
 

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Palestinians are not the Indigenous people of the Holy Land

I would personally like to see proof of that. Many Jews claim that title, yet many have no genetic ties to that religious (ethnic) group. You can't just utter something and claim it as FACT.

1918-1948= 432 years?? No wonder your economy is in the crapper. your math skills suck.

A little racist and also a little ignorant.

And the Muslims arrived a lot later still.

There is no proof of that concept, if "Muslims" are merely referred to as a race, which they are not.


And you're defending the morons at the central banks, why? Exactly how is a Keynesian any different from another Keynesian?

Close enough. We ALL descended from folks in south and east Africa.

While mainstream media has us (you guys) believing that, DNA sequencing technology isn't even close to anything resembling a definitive answer. You state that as a fact, which is not been proven.

The Israelites evolved into the Jews.

No they didn't. Current science shows that the "twelve tribes of Israel" came from a plethora of different regions ranging from Sub-Saharan Africa to Central-Northern-Asia. In fact, the Ashkenazi are thought to have Germanic roots with Near-East relatives.

I remember a documentary a few years ago on TV saying many Palestinians are of Jewish ancestry.

This wouldn't be the first time that you've misquoted something.

ANYBODY who lived in Judea was a Jew because it was a kingdom not a Religion.

A weird angle without any historical reference. Which Judea, may I ask, are you referring to? In any case and any historical sense, racistly incorrect.

Well I'll have admit that you know more about genes than me. I know theirs (sic) <snip> You're kidding me, a FREE conversion with a prize! Will the toaster do non Kosher breads?

Racist and insensitive. I would suggest stepping aside and refraining from participating in this thread any further.

It is not I, but you who appears to have bought into the discredited notions of race and religion extant during the Nazi horrors of the last great war.

I'm surprised it took this long for some idiot to attempt to disguise their own incompetence at debating by bringing up this topic. It's so quintessential in any debate about current-day Israel and Palestine.

And an ethnic group too.

Good for you.

You are wrong. You can't be racist towards Muslims and Catholics. Unlike Jews they aren't a race.

Your lack of punctuation confuses me as to your intent, but since it doesn't make a difference in this context: Jews, Catholics and Muslims are not a race. On the other hand, the Daily Express, Guardian and the BBC make it seem so.

Did you receive a public or private education?

Does it make a difference? At least in Ontario and Québéc, the same self-centered, hypocritical and utterly useless government-sponsored system regulates all aspects of education. I highly doubt it is different elsewhere. ***siiiiiigh***

Hebrews are people that speak Hebrew. Jews are separate from that distinction although some Jews speak Hebrew, in which case they can also be Hebrew, but not all Jews speak Hebrew. Judaeism is a religion and a Jew can be a citizen of any country and speak any language.
Blackhead's digging himself a hole, as usual.

Amen!

Race is definitely a cultural derived concept. And you have to go back further than the 15th century. It has its roots in family, clan and tribe. The ability to effectively stereotype and recognize differences between clans and tribes was probably an important thing.

Although race may not "exist" in science, they still have difficulty explaining the correltion between "race" and IQ--Asians score higher than whites score higher than blacks. While this is true, it's considered polite not to bring it up in academic company. :lol:

You are one smart fish.