Are Palestinians the Indigenous People of Palestine?

[Spade]

I think this was explained in an old Cathedral Filmstrip they showed us in Sunday School way back in olden days.

I got to turn the projector by the way.

Thank you, Locutus, for the memory! It warmed my gizzard stones. Your story got me thinking about the good-old days...

Reminiscence #371

Back in the day, cathedral choirs would ring our lusty strains of Deutschland Uber Alles and Rule Britannia bringing unabashed tears to patriotic eyes. Music would echo from nave to pulpit. Sometimes these songs would be sung in juxtaposition; other times in unison declaring how the two peoples were one!.
Deutschland über alles, Nazi Germany Beautiful Anthem - YouTube
Thomas Arne - Rule Britannia! - The British Empire: Sunrise to Sunset HD - YouTube

Thanks again!

 

[petros]

Thank you, Locutus, for the memory! It warmed my gizzard stones. Your story got me thinking about the good-old days...

Reminiscence #371

Back in the day, cathedral choirs would ring our lusty strains of Deutschland Uber Alles and Rule Britannia bringing unabashed tears to patriotic eyes. Thanks again!

Only the Protestant and Lutheran heathens.

 

[Goober]

Racist.

Spade a racist - really - find one post where he is - that should take forever.
You on the other hand have posts littered with racist, hateful beliefs.

 

[L Gilbert]

I don't know if you were referring to me. From what I got in the documentary was that while most Palestinians today are mostly Muslim with some Christians and few Jews, many of them were probably of Hebrew origin historically, but later adopted Islam or the Christian Faith.

Hebrew is a language.

And how many Jews are converts? A very TINY amount. A poll done last year amongst New York Jews found just 7% of them were converted Jews. And even then, some Jews don't consider converted Jews to be fully Jewish.

Logical fallacy: IE; "The planet is flat and the proof is that everyone says so". It was the "common sense" of the day. It was wrong, too.

Anyway, "Are Palestinians the Indigenous People of Palestine"? Of the Roman (et al) province, yes, of the area, no.

 

[Zipperfish]

Maybe, maybe not. Nobody really knows and that well is posioned as far as any semblance of objectivity goes.

 

[darkbeaver]

So it seems a Country called Palestine has not to do with Palestinians.

 

[Goober]

Yeah. Judaism is an ethnoreligion.

Examples of ethnic groups defined by ancestral religions are the Jews, the Assyrians, the Armenians, the Druze of the Levant, the Copts (a branch of Christians) of Egypt, the Yazidi of northern Iraq, the Zoroastrians of Iran and India, and the Serer of Senegal, the Gambia, and Mauritania.

That's why you can be racist against Jews but not racist against Muslims, because the Jews are a race and the Muslims aren't.

Again,you demonstrate your idiocy. I will stop while I remain polite.

Race - definition-

race: definition of race in Oxford dictionary (British & World English)

Then we have the Human race
human race: definition of human race in Oxford dictionary (British & World English)

Race (human classification) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Even though there is a broad scientific agreement that essentialist and typological conceptualizations of race are untenable, scientists around the world continue to conceptualize race in widely differing ways, some of which have essentialist implications.[11] While some researchers sometimes use the concept of race to make distinctions among fuzzy sets of traits, others in the scientific community suggest that the idea of race often is used in a naive[6] or simplistic way,[12] and argue that, among humans, race has no taxonomic significance by pointing out that all living humans belong to the same species, Homo sapiens and subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens.[13][14]

race (human) -- Encyclopedia Britannica

race, the idea that the human species is divided into distinct groups on the basis of inherited physical and behavioral differences. Genetic studies in the late 20th century refuted the existence of biogenetically distinct races, and scholars now argue that “races” are cultural interventions reflecting specific attitudes and beliefs that were imposed on different populations in the wake of western European conquests beginning in the 15th century.

 

[Machjo]

Hebrew is a language.

And an ethnic group too.

 

[Blackleaf]

Spade a racist - really - find one post where he is - that should take forever.
You on the other hand have posts littered with racist, hateful beliefs.

You are wrong. You can't be racist towards Muslims and Catholics. Unlike Jews they aren't a race.

 

[Goober]

You are wrong. You can't be racist towards Muslims and Catholics. Unlike Jews they aren't a race.

Did you receive a public or private education?

 

[Machjo]

You are wrong. You can't be racist towards Muslims and Catholics. Unlike Jews they aren't a race.

You're confusing Jews with Hebrews.

 

[Blackleaf]

Did you receive a public or private education?

I suspect you didn't receive an education at all.

You cannot be racist towards a religion. Only towards a race. What part of the term "racism" are you struggling to comprehend?

 

[Machjo]

I suspect you didn't receive an education at all.

You cannot be racist towards a religion. Only towards a race.

'Racism' towards 'Jews' is a popular misnomer. It either means religious prejudice against Jews or anti-ethnic prejudice against Hebrews.

 

[Goober]

I suspect you didn't receive an education at all.

You cannot be racist towards a religion. Only towards a race. What part of the term "racism" are you struggling to comprehend?

Can you answer the question- public or private- or is that to difficult for you?

 

[Spade]

You are wrong. You can't be racist towards Muslims and Catholics. Unlike Jews they aren't a race.

You are just being silly. Judaism is a religion.
Founding Mothers of Ashkenazi Jews May Be Converts, Study Finds - Bloomberg

 

[L Gilbert]

And an ethnic group too.

Hebrews are people that speak Hebrew. Jews are separate from that distinction although some Jews speak Hebrew, in which case they can also be Hebrew, but not all Jews speak Hebrew. Judaeism is a religion and a Jew can be a citizen of any country and speak any language.
Blackhead's digging himself a hole, as usual.

 

[Blackleaf]

You are just being silly. Judaism is a religion.
Founding Mothers of Ashkenazi Jews May Be Converts, Study Finds - Bloomberg

And, unlike Islam, it's a race.

You can be racist towards Jews but you can't be racist towards Muslims, just like you can't be racist towards a tree.

 

[Goober]

And, unlike Islam, it's a race.

You can be racist towards Jews but you can't be racist towards Muslims, just like you can't be racist towards a tree.

Did you receive a public or private education?

 

[Blackleaf]

l a Jew can be a citizen of any country and speak any language.

So can a black person. Are blacks not a race, too?

 

[Zipperfish]

Genetic studies in the late 20th century refuted the existence of biogenetically distinct races, and scholars now argue that “races” are cultural interventions reflecting specific attitudes and beliefs that were imposed on different populations in the wake of western European conquests beginning in the 15th century.

Race is definitely a cultural derived concept. And you have to go back further than the 15th century. It has its roots in family, clan and tribe. The ability to effectively stereotype and recognize differences between clans and tribes was probably an important thing.

Although race may not "exist" in science, they still have difficulty explaining the correltion between "race" and IQ--Asians score higher than whites score higher than blacks. While this is true, it's considered polite not to bring it up in academic company. :lol: