I have great faith in God but take man's bible with a ton of salt.
Fair enough, but as an ardent fan of the 1611Edition I have to go with the whole Bible is written in a form where the last 3 books are the completion of what was started in the first 3 chapters of Genesis. All the rest has to do with the two bruises from Ge:3:15, their beginning and their end. The cross was all things in prophecy and deed. Moses and the 10 Commandments was the beginning and that took over as the law from the time of Adam until the last giant was killed in the exodus wars
Had not intention of commenting in this discussion but decided to take a change.
I'm pretty noisy when it comes to the specifics in the Bible but it also shows that one author using 40 scribes to write a suspense novel is not something that can happen by chance in this day and age let alone in primitive times. It also means that sort of belief does not mean you are nuts. To believe most doctrines would qualify as proof you are indeed nuts to the core. That possibility is reduced by the may references I will post that says I am following the Script rather than some vague opinion, not always taken as a good quality, lol.
Let me first say I am a christian!
So am I, that means we may or may not be from the same 3500 different cults, i mean churches. Wonder what the odds are we are in the same one?
However as far as I am concerned all the bibles and versuses were written by men saying what they wanted people to believe.
Well that was short and sweet. lol, not very good at setting traps as you can tell.
None of them ever new Jesus or his apostles, but they signed their names to their own words.
Lets go with the original 4 Gospels were written by Peter, James and John and one Disciple of John the Baptist and by the time Act:10 rolled out into reality those 4 books were written in flawless Greek by those same Jews who had never been taught Greek at any time. The current names are the names of the Scribes who had made copies of the originals as was used in the collection in 325AD.
That Saul was whispering the lord's Prayer as in one of those being reason he was 'chosen' is an example of the fine detail in the 'overall plot' that is in the way the two bruises unfold from prophecy into reality.
Religion was created by man to control as many people as possible.
That is certainly true these days, the truth about God either comes free of charge or it isn't the real deal. For myself reading the NT gave me the impression that there was a plan and it sounded like a pretty good plan, it is only when the OT is added that the little details that make the picture very vivid that any mistakes can be made about what the original meaning was meant to be if it was meant for the people of this era.
De:4:29-31:
But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God,
thou shalt find him,
if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
When thou art in tribulation,
and all these things are come upon thee,
even in the latter days,
if thou turn to the LORD thy God,
and shalt be obedient unto his voice;
(For the LORD thy God is a merciful God
he will not forsake thee,
neither destroy thee,
nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.
There is no way the atrocities commited by religions can be attributed to the teachings of Jesus.
That is why He kills 2/3 of all the people on the planet on the afternoon the seventh trump in Re:11 unfolds. Those would be the 'false Christians'. If the world clued into the Scriptures flawlessly there would be no need for a return. That there is so much in the Bible that is about that time it means God wanted us (the ones that could face those years) to be able to read it and understand the 'overall meaning'. The 'big picture' was kept in puzzle form until individuals could read the whole book themselves. That would be us, same as the bomb from WWII, 40 different departments working on one project where none of them have an understanding that we can get from having the 'view' from 40 different angles.
One of my problems with the bible are that Jesus talked in paraboles that only certain men could understand.
In biblical talk the NT is called the milk and the OT is called the meat. Every person enters as a child getting milk and once you starting applying some OT prophecy that is the meat part of having a solid doctrine. To the point you have an answer to why Daniel was confused about what he was even writing about. Even taking the flood in light of modern knowledge is something that blends in with what we believe is the scientific way things are.
Jesus was supposed to be an intelligent person, well he would have spoken to the people in a way that everyone would have understood him instead of needing someone else to transulate and explain.
Parables were there so the people did not understand Jesus was the King, His appearance for the completion of the bruise to the heel event was in the role of a Priest. Revelation covers the 3 1/2 years before the day of return, a lot of OT prophecy going back to Moses has to be closely looked at if you want the piece to have any detail in it. It has to fit the model that a parable introduces as being part of the 'how things work' program.
This is the first example that the people who wrote the bible really believed we were all idiots.
The first example would be taking 4,000BC as the day the 7th day of creation and the using a verse from the end of Revelation you add a zero in the 1,000 place 6 times and the 'clock' is at 4,000,000,000BC as being the first time an angel could stand on the earth and experience the first day/night cycle. We would call it a 'strobe light' more or less.
The water for the flood was in the form of snow on the high hills and mountains and using that same way of telling time the flood was the length of the last ice-age, some 360,000 years rather than 360 days. That it came as rain is important as the oceans have risen about 400 ft in all. Fitting the science to model the weather patterns that far back might show that the Dead Sea was a fresh wahet body of water and the rainfall for the area just happened to be the amount that is in the river in Eze:47. Being that detailed would point to one author would it not? If more examples could be supplied the odds get higher right?
