Canada's shame - The truth is coming out and what we did as a country is disgusting.
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In American Westerns, the scripts read, " The only good Indian,..."
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We paid already we're not paying again.
Note-those are your words not mine.
Also AFAICT you have no horse in this race just a long nose.
It's only a shame as long as we don't do anything to correct it. So, are we prepared to make a reasonable effort to provide equal per-student education funding on and off reserve and reverse the damage by helping to revitalize their languages and cultures, etc.
If so, then there will be no more shame.
WTF does that have to do with anything?
Some whiners here (the usual suspects) are trying to make Canadians feel guilty about something unfortunate that was long ago the past-we paid a settlement and That's It.
No more crying/blubbering/weeping/moaning or cutting of cheques.
The last residential school closed ints doors in 1996. Yes they had improved somewhat, but even in the end residential school aimed at assimilation. The only real difference being that later residential schools no longer beat kids for speaking their language, etc. but rather just ignored it in school.
Still a form of cultural genocide.
Want to be fair Gerry? Lets ask about what was done to the natives by other natives. or is that too old, like Rome and Sweden? One of my family attended residential school in St Albert Alberta 1962. Much much much better than the depraved so called family system in northern Alberta, so, eff you hero.
Tell it to an Israeli Consulate, you will have a passport and a plane ticket to Israel the same day.
To be 'fair' you have to not have the Government investigate the Government, the First Nations should have this before the UN Human Rights Tribunal (or whatever body looks into affairs that fall under genocide) The ICC is all hot and bothered with things like the STL but real massive crimes are a 'hands off' unless it suits the 'West'.
We are going to pay again and again. See we put these people out of the way on reserves
on land no one wanted and we wanted to wash our hands of them. That land is now on the
richest of minerals and we want access to it. Its like breaking into the same house over and
over again. Besides when you steal an entire nation what is the value of land trees water
and a host of other factors? Actually we haven't even qualified paying the down payment.
And we will pay for a long time to come. What is really harsh is we can't seem to come to
grips with what a bunch of lying cheating thieving basta*ds our long ago relative were.
God Karma plays havoc on the guilty eh?
on land no one wanted and we wanted to wash our hands of them. That land is now on the
richest of minerals and we want access to it. Its like breaking into the same house over and
over again. Besides when you steal an entire nation what is the value of land trees water
and a host of other factors? Actually we haven't even qualified paying the down payment.
And we will pay for a long time to come. What is really harsh is we can't seem to come to
grips with what a bunch of lying cheating thieving basta*ds our long ago relative were.
God Karma plays havoc on the guilty eh?
I say its time we delat with this without the UN Parasites. The UN sticks their nose into
everyones problems and then it wrings its hands because that is its real job hand wringing.
Our forfathers made a mess of things from greed predjudice and ignorance and we the
living get to pay the cost of it. No matter how much protest some will scream about the fact
is we will pay for a long time to come. Shamefull acts are never really forgotten.
Its like saying "Oh well lets forgive Bernardo or Willie Pickton cause the young people weren't
born when he committed his murderous acts." We have people alive who were directly
impacted, we have children and grandchildern who are reaping the illness brought on by
those acts and many don't even want to admit they happened.
What really troubles me is, the government contracted the mission to the churches and
toghether they abandoned their ethics and committed some of the worst crimes of their time.
How do you move on without acknowledging that?
It is not enough to say oh it happened before my time.
everyones problems and then it wrings its hands because that is its real job hand wringing.
Our forfathers made a mess of things from greed predjudice and ignorance and we the
living get to pay the cost of it. No matter how much protest some will scream about the fact
is we will pay for a long time to come. Shamefull acts are never really forgotten.
Its like saying "Oh well lets forgive Bernardo or Willie Pickton cause the young people weren't
born when he committed his murderous acts." We have people alive who were directly
impacted, we have children and grandchildern who are reaping the illness brought on by
those acts and many don't even want to admit they happened.
What really troubles me is, the government contracted the mission to the churches and
toghether they abandoned their ethics and committed some of the worst crimes of their time.
How do you move on without acknowledging that?
It is not enough to say oh it happened before my time.
I think we should acknowledge what a mess we made and define the guilty parties
by name. For now we should pay and shut up about the poor us we stole everything
that wasn't nailed down and now someone has to pay for it mentality
It is what it is and like it or not payment will continue as long as the sky is blue and the
grass is green and the river flows
See the other group that got screwed were prairie farmers. The had a thing called the
crow rate for shipping grain. How did that come about? the CPR got the land for ten
miles on each side of the track and in exchange they would haul grain for a specific
rate. The railroad sold the land and then claimed they couldn't afford to keep the line
going at that rate. The government caved and the rate was scrapped. How does this
come into play? The word perpetuity was used and that means forever in these sorts
of deals. Same with the reserve system and the Natives are not letting the government
off the hook with regard to the reserves and the situation regarding the abduction of
children and brainwashing them against their own people. I believe the payments will
go on in perpetuity that is what will be done
by name. For now we should pay and shut up about the poor us we stole everything
that wasn't nailed down and now someone has to pay for it mentality
It is what it is and like it or not payment will continue as long as the sky is blue and the
grass is green and the river flows
See the other group that got screwed were prairie farmers. The had a thing called the
crow rate for shipping grain. How did that come about? the CPR got the land for ten
miles on each side of the track and in exchange they would haul grain for a specific
rate. The railroad sold the land and then claimed they couldn't afford to keep the line
going at that rate. The government caved and the rate was scrapped. How does this
come into play? The word perpetuity was used and that means forever in these sorts
of deals. Same with the reserve system and the Natives are not letting the government
off the hook with regard to the reserves and the situation regarding the abduction of
children and brainwashing them against their own people. I believe the payments will
go on in perpetuity that is what will be done
That doesn't really matter as it pertains to my question. My great uncle was profoundly affected. How many of his ancestors get to use that as an excuse for their problems?
My question aside, does his suffering mean less simply because his father wasn't brutalized too?
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I am replying to the dumb a-s-s point you made. That is unless you now realize how idiotic it was?
They came home, then they raised families- Those thoughts, behaviors, alcoholism, drug use - all because they were men told to cope with what happened.
No help, no understanding of what they went thru.
And they then visited the abuse in a variety of ways upon their families, friends and such.
Those generations were impacted.And those generations they raised then impacted their own families.
How about teens today that are trans gender or gay and have abuse heaped on them for years in the schools, communities and what not.
Will they have an opportunity to blame society and/or the school system for this?
Can we expect a fact finding Royal Commission to look into this abuse allowed?
