Isn't it high time to start imposing hefty fines on people who go out of bounds?

damngrumpy

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In addition these people should be kept off the ski hill for a period of time.
A fine the cost of the search and charged with endangering the lives of the
searchers. Out of bounds is listed for a reason and those who want to thrill
seek should pay the shot plus be barred from ski hills under penalty for a
violation of an order. Probably won't help much but it sends a message
 

WLDB

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A very large fine. Plus costs of the search.

And if they dont want to be found?

They should have to do volunteer work instructing other skiers on why they should not break through warning ropes and go off on areas marked out of bounds. The amount of hours necessary should be worked out per rescue cost.

If that has to be explained to the new skiers they themselves shouldnt be there to begin with.

When these bozos get caught in an avalanche it puts people who attempt to rescue at risk.
Selfish, stupid, oh yeah did I mention stupid.

So dont rescue. Put up signs saying if they pass a certain point they do so at their own risk.

Yes & No- Start at 10 - 20 K fine, plus costs.

You can name any price you want if they dont have the ability to pay it it wont make a difference.
 

relic

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I worked at a hill for a few seasons,and the folks that go out of bounds are likely the ones that over estimate their ability.You can generally pick them out in the lodge,by their ******* attitude.
 

Machjo

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Hey, be nice to fine-payers. They help keep my taxers down. :)

But yes, as long as they pay a hefty fine, then they're not idiots, but my friends.

A possible exception might be if they unintentionally go out of bounds owing to some kind of emergency, but even then they should be required to have insurance.

Oh yes, and just in case they can't pay the fine, make sure they get idiot insurance... er... sorry... I mean comprehensive no-fault ski insurance. I could make making such insurance mandatory for all downhill skiers.

A very large fine. Plus costs of the search.

I was thinking that was the point, that the fine would be high enough to cover the cost of the search. Whether they pay it or their insurance, I don't care, as long as it's not the taxpayer. But, seeing how expensive S&R is, many could not afford the fine, and that's why mandatory comprehensive no-fault insurance might be the way to go for that.

They should have to do volunteer work instructing other skiers on why they should not break through warning ropes and go off on areas marked out of bounds. The amount of hours necessary should be worked out per rescue cost.

How many years are you thinking there?
 

JLM

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I worked at a hill for a few seasons,and the folks that go out of bounds are likely the ones that over estimate their ability.You can generally pick them out in the lodge,by their ******* attitude.


Yep, they are the ones who think rules are for other people.
 

taxslave

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Insurance should be added to the price of a lift ticket and park passes.

WHy? Those of us that obey the rules should not be forced to pay for those that don't. Looking for people out of bounds is not the ski hill's responsibility any way. Moreover their employees are no longer covered by workers comp or insurance if they go out of bounds looking for idiots.
 

JLM

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WHy? Those of us that obey the rules should not be forced to pay for those that don't. Looking for people out of bounds is not the ski hill's responsibility any way. Moreover their employees are no longer covered by workers comp or insurance if they go out of bounds looking for idiots.
If you want to find idiots you don't have much choice.
 

petros

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WHy? Those of us that obey the rules should not be forced to pay for those that don't. Looking for people out of bounds is not the ski hill's responsibility any way. Moreover their employees are no longer covered by workers comp or insurance if they go out of bounds looking for idiots.

Ski Patrol could use the surplus who are volunteers not employees. PS they are insured
 

Chev

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The cost of the search should be more than enough to scare people off............
The out of bounds skiers should have to pay very large fine when they get hurt.
AND they should pay the costs of the search.
Because You ski out of bounds for the 'new' snow and less people, or whatever your reason.....
You put the Resort ski patrol, The Area Search and Rescue patrol, the R.C.M.P. members and the Helicopter Pilot in danger.
Maybe you have no clue about who you put in danger.
I don't care, you should have to pay very large fine.
AND add the costs of the search.




The out of bounds skiers should have to pay very large fine when they get hurt.
AND they should pay the costs of the search.
Because You ski out of bounds for the 'new' snow and less people, or whatever your reason.....
You put the Resort ski patrol, The Area Search and Rescue patrol, the R.C.M.P. members and the Helicopter Pilot in danger.
Maybe you have no clue about who you put in danger.
I don't care, you should have to pay very large fine.
AND add the costs of the search.


Maybe the families of these idiots should have to pay..
WLDB says “Quote: Originally Posted by Goober
When these bozos get caught in an avalanche it puts people who attempt to rescue at risk. Selfish, stupid, oh yeah did I mention stupid.”
So don’t rescue. Put up signs saying if they pass a certain point they do so at their own risk.”



 

taxslave

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Ski Patrol could use the surplus who are volunteers not employees. PS they are insured

Not according to what I was told when I worked on a ski hill. But then I'm sure a prairie farmer knows so much more about ski hill insurance than the people that actually run a ski hill.