A&E shoots itself in the foot

karrie

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He's entitled to his view. It's not one I happen to agree with but unless someone can point out real harm he's doing I'd regard him as harmless. Saying you think a behaviour is a sin is not spreading hate, it's stating an opinion. .


Everyone is entitled to their views and opinions.


No one is entitled to the public's attention. No one is entitled to being a public commodity.


If someone wants to be a public commodity, they need to consider their buyers.

I don't see what anyone could like about that dumb show.



What they like about following ROb Ford, what they like about Honey Boo Boo, what they like about 'The People of Wal-Mart', and what they like about spending their days watching 'fail' videos on the internet....


They like feeling better than people.
 

BornRuff

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Westboro Baptist spews more hateful garbage than this.

Well ya, but they are not exactly the line between right and wrong.Also, Westboro doesn't have a show on A&E.

A&E does have a right to decide who they want to have on their network and the views that they want represented. I'm sure his contract with A&E has some sort of clause about the things that he is allowed to do and say in public if he wants to maintain his relationship with the network.

If it is the network's highest rated show and one of the most popular shows in the country and if it makes more money for your network than all your other shows combined you're shooting yourself n your foot.

Is it really that successful?

Anyways, I have only watched the show once. It was kind of funny, but do you think this is something that is going to be a long term success for them? A lot of these shows tend to be pretty gimmicky. People will get really into them for a short period of time and then get bored of it.
 

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Well ya, but they are not exactly the line between right and wrong.Also, Westboro doesn't have a show on A&E.

A&E does have a right to decide who they want to have on their network and the views that they want represented. I'm sure his contract with A&E has some sort of clause about the things that he is allowed to do and say in public if he wants to maintain his relationship with the network.



Is it really that successful?

Anyways, I have only watched the show once. It was kind of funny, but do you think this is something that is going to be a long term success for them? A lot of these shows tend to be pretty gimmicky. People will get really into them for a short period of time and then get bored of it.

One of the most popular shows they have, is what I heard. Been on TV for a few years now.

Well ya, but they are not exactly the line between right and wrong.Also, Westboro doesn't have a show on A&E.

A&E does have a right to decide who they want to have on their network and the views that they want represented. I'm sure his contract with A&E has some sort of clause about the things that he is allowed to do and say in public if he wants to maintain his relationship with the network.



Is it really that successful?

Anyways, I have only watched the show once. It was kind of funny, but do you think this is something that is going to be a long term success for them? A lot of these shows tend to be pretty gimmicky. People will get really into them for a short period of time and then get bored of it.

One of the most popular shows they have, is what I heard. Been on TV for a few years now.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/duck-dynasty-ratings
 

BornRuff

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One of the most popular shows they have, is what I heard. Been on TV for a few years now.

Duck Dynasty Ratings

I know they are popular, but more money than all the other programs combined would be pretty huge.

They seem to do their "seasons" kind of funny, since they have 4 season all within the span of about a year and a half. It looks like ratings really picked up this past spring.
 

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Is it really that successful?
From Wikipedia


Ratings

An hour-long Christmas special premiered on December 5, 2012 as the season two finale and became (at the time) the most-watched A&E episode in the network's history.[34]
The February 27, 2013, the season three premiere tallied 8.6 million viewers, including five million in the adults 25–54 demographic and five million in adults 18–49 demographic, making the premiere (at the time) the most watched telecast in network history, beating the season two finale.[35] The one-hour season three finale (shown on April 24, 2013) tallied 9.6 million viewers, with 5.6 million in the Adults 25–54 demographic and 5.5 million in the Adults 18–49 demographic, making it the highest rated telecast in A&E history.[36]
On August 14, 2013, the season four premiere drew a total of 11.8 million viewers, an increase of 37% vs. the season three premiere, drawing 6.3 million viewers in the Adults 25–54 demographic, making it the most watched nonfiction series telecast in cable television history.[3] Duck Dynasty tops the list of celebrity/pop culture-themed costume searches on Yahoo! in October 2013, according to data compiled by Yahoo Web trend expert Carolyn Clark.[37]
 

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I know they are popular, but more money than all the other programs combined would be pretty huge.

They seem to do their "seasons" kind of funny, since they have 4 season all within the span of about a year and a half. It looks like ratings really picked up this past spring.
They are making big bucks for A&E.

'Duck Dynasty' Cast Get Major Salary Bumps, Hit Series Secures Extra Seasons - Deadline.com
I’ve learned that under the new agreement, the clan will earn more than $200,000 an episode, divvied up among the nine adults and 11 kids on the show. That is roughly 4-5 times what the Robertsons previously made. Additionally, I hear the new pact includes additional seasons for the show as well as series/cast options.

4 Management Lessons From Duck Dynasty - Forbes

As the hit television show Duck Dynasty launched its third season last week, setting viewership records for A&E and topping American Idol in key demographics, I was struck by the management success of the company – often in spite of themselves. While the reality show at times seems more scripted than real, the company, Duck Commander, is as real as they get and more profitable than ever. Here are a few lessons on management from the seemingly inept Robertson family.
 

BornRuff

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They are making big bucks for A&E.

'Duck Dynasty' Cast Get Major Salary Bumps, Hit Series Secures Extra Seasons - Deadline.com
I’ve learned that under the new agreement, the clan will earn more than $200,000 an episode, divvied up among the nine adults and 11 kids on the show. That is roughly 4-5 times what the Robertsons previously made. Additionally, I hear the new pact includes additional seasons for the show as well as series/cast options.

4 Management Lessons From Duck Dynasty - Forbes

As the hit television show Duck Dynasty launched its third season last week, setting viewership records for A&E and topping American Idol in key demographics, I was struck by the management success of the company – often in spite of themselves. While the reality show at times seems more scripted than real, the company, Duck Commander, is as real as they get and more profitable than ever. Here are a few lessons on management from the seemingly inept Robertson family.

Lol, wow. How long do you think it will last?
 

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Everyone is entitled to their views and opinions.


No one is entitled to the public's attention. No one is entitled to being a public commodity.


If someone wants to be a public commodity, they need to consider their buyers.

No argument, what A&E does with it's programming lineup and the standards it chooses is it's own business. I have no problem with any of that.

Given what was said, it is not a direct comparison as the title of the article would leave one to believe. I think that's taking a great deal of creative licence with the statement in my honest opinion.

And I think GLAAD is stretching things given what was actually stated.

GLAAD on Wednesday condemned his remarks as "some of the vilest and most extreme statements uttered against LGBT people in a mainstream publication"

And you know me, if something truly ignorant and vile is spewed against the LGBT community I'm usually the first one to slap them upside their ignorant heads, lol.

What they like about following ROb Ford, what they like about Honey Boo Boo, what they like about 'The People of Wal-Mart', and what they like about spending their days watching 'fail' videos on the internet....


They like feeling better than people.

The part that is inherently funny to me is it doesn't make them look any better, in fact it makes them look worse; rather small and demeaning.
 

gerryh

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What I find hypocritical of A&E is that they object to Phil Robertson voicing his personal opinion and beliefs on his own time and they aired a show like "Breaking Bad" for so many years.
 

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Look at A&E I once used to watch the channel then they went to hell in a handbasket.
Its a wonderful thing when a show like this can become the most watched it shows
why we have so many problems in North America. I watched two shows and they were
the longest hours I spent watching TV. Like Survivor god is that boring.
I think I would rather watch test pattern
 

gerryh

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Look at A&E I once used to watch the channel then they went to hell in a handbasket.
Its a wonderful thing when a show like this can become the most watched it shows
why we have so many problems in North America. I watched two shows and they were
the longest hours I spent watching TV. Like Survivor god is that boring.
I think I would rather watch test pattern


Then watch test patterns, or don't watch what you don't like. There's a reason there's an off button on your TV.


If any one has actually watched the show and done a little research into the Robertson Family, you'd realize that they are close to genius. Willie Robertson, the CEO of Duck Commander, is a marketing genius. He's managed, with his families help, to parlay his fathers home based business into a multi million dollar enterprise that now spans far more than just duck calls.
 

BornRuff

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What I find hypocritical of A&E is that they object to Phil Robertson voicing his personal opinion and beliefs on his own time and they aired a show like "Breaking Bad" for so many years.

Why would a fictional show and this incident be related?

When you work on a show like this, you are a representative of the show in all of your public dealings.
 

gerryh

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Why would a fictional show and this incident be related?


Really? You see no problem with airing a show that glorifies drugs, drug production, and distribution while at the same time chastising someone for their personal and religious views? At no time have ANY of the Robertson made derogatory comments concerning gays on their show. Phil answered a direct question concerning his faith and beliefs. He was honest about it. This is an example of hypocracy on A&E's part and an agenda on the part of the LGBT groups that complained.
 

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Why would a fictional show and this incident be related?

When you work on a show like this, you are a representative of the show in all of your public dealings.

The fictional- Would you agree that many parts of the show were based upon reality?
 

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Breaking Bad was an AMC production, not A&E.

As for whether it turns out to be a bad move, if advertisers pulled their ads following the backlash, well it's hard to say how this would have affected their revenues. Ultimately it's their decision who they choose to associate with. As Goober mentioned, reality shows are cash cows because they are relatively cheap to produce. They can just cast out for some other garbage show, maybe even literally a show about garbage.
 

Tonington

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ooooooooooops..... looks like I was lead astray...... you are right.

Personally, I find it funny that there would be outrage over what a redneck said. The show is about redneck culture from what I understand (never watched it, don't even subscribe to a cable/satellite program) and one of the actors said something a redneck would say.

Shocker :lol: