It is. I went there 18 years ago when I worked for DeBeers. It was eye opening. Looking back I can say Apartheid wasn't about oppression but about security.
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It is. I went there 18 years ago when I worked for DeBeers. It was eye opening. Looking back I can say Apartheid wasn't about oppression but about security.
But a lot of people on the Left didn't.
Compare the respectful attitude of the Right - despite many on the Right hating Mandela - to the disgraceful antics of the Left the moment Thatcher died.
If the Right had been celebrating terrorist Mandela's death the way the way the Left celebrated the death of Britain's greatest peacetime Prime Minister of the 20th Century, there would have been uproar.
Really? I thought I was alone.
I always sort of thought of it in the same way I think of places like Iraq, an iron fist was needed to maintain security and stability.
Manners has absolutely NOTHING to do with "left" or "right". You guys are backwards anyway, can't even remember the proper side of the road to drive on!
I think education of the masses is what is needed. But there will always be zealots.
I agree completely.
There are far to many factions, tribal constructs and deeply ingrained differences within the populace to have anything but what SA has become.
And yes, that can be educated out, but I wish it could have been done in a better way.
Is Johannesburg the murder capitol of the world?
I take it that was for Blackleaf?
Of course apartheid was unjust! Who in their right mind can disagree?
My point was that he did, in the early years, condone violence as a means to an end. That's not to say that there wasn't far more violence from the Africans than what he perpetrated but the point still remains. He was no MLK at that time, but he eventaully came around. That was my point. That is what I admire in him. He could have become more "terrorist-like" for lack of a better term but he didn't. After being released from prision he dispensed with any anger and hatred (I KNOW I couldn't do that unless some miracle happened) and sought the way of MLK.
JMO
I can. In Kimberley blacks and whites worked and lived in relative harmony but in J'burg it was complete mayhem. When Apartheid ended the blacks thought they'd be rich but there still wasn't anything to go around.
The Left are the nastier lot, as was shown when you compare their despicable response to Thatcher's death to the more respectable response by the Right to the death of a man many of the Right saw as nothing but a terrorist.
We can remember the proper side to drive on - the left. Driving on the right is illegal.
How many countries in the world drive on the left?
I see that many of the countries that do drive on the left are south of the equator which would be understandable! -
He was a revolutionary and a terrorist after being tortured for 27 years in prison he finally made peace with the world.
yeah, with all of the google and computer use available and see how far things have come...we really do need to: "Stop learning and think" : Jacob Barnett
will the picture above be a wake up call...I doubt it...
Dear oh dear. Historical revisionism is still alive and well on this forum.
-1 And you deserve it.
I see that many of the countries that do drive on the left are south of the equator which would be understandable! -
How did you work that one out?
Most of those countries which drive on the left do so because they were part of the British Empire. That's yet another great thing the British introduced to their Empire.
