Should Ford Resign?

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Without getting into the systemic nitty gritty, there should always be available some democratic measure that allows people to take down leaders they don't like. This measure should be cost-sensitive and it should satisfy certain predetermined standards to make sure we aren't just flipping them out or stripping their powers without good reason.
 
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gerryh said:
I say again, there is no real mechanism to remove a Premier or Prime Minister. Better yet, tell me ONE instance of a Premier or Prime Minister being "removed".

and actually, all I hear from the left right now is how Harper has "carte Blanche, and before him from the right how Chretien had "carte blanche".
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They can be removed if they lose the confidence of the house or if their party decides to remove them. Losing the confidence of the house is obviously the more common one, but that is because most every party leader has had more self respect than Ford so they would never hang around long enough to be removed by their own party.
 
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Zipperfish said:
Still waiting. Now apologize, then f*ck off. :lol:
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Zipperfish said:
Finally! Apology accepted.
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Wow, was it your hate for homosexuals that caused you to get into a drunken stupor and post that emotional nonsense?

In the mean time, back on topic...

Like Ford, you hate homosexuals, can you shed some light on why you hate homosexuals, so we can gather some idea as to what drives people like you and Ford?

mentalfloss said:
This measure should be cost-sensitive and it should satisfy certain predetermined standards to make sure we aren't just flipping them out or stripping their powers without good reason.
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What you think is a good reason, isn't going to be the same as what everyone thinks is a good reason.

The last three years if proof enough that people with a political agenda will use any and all means to oust someone they simply don't like for partisan reasons.

gerryh said:
I say again, there is no real mechanism to remove a Premier or Prime Minister. Better yet, tell me ONE instance of a Premier or Prime Minister being "removed".

and actually, all I hear from the left right now is how Harper has "carte Blanche, and before him from the right how Chretien had "carte blanche".
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Are you enjoying the round dance?

I can get the boys to break out the drums and get SCB to sing if you want.
 
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Zipperfish said:
Rob Ford, Furry Bear...Rob Ford. Try to stay on topic. I know you can do it!
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Wow, not even a nights sleep helped you gather yourself together.

Oh well, now back on topic...

You, like Ford Hate homosexuals, can you tell us why you hate homosexuals so we can get a little insight into why Ford thinks the way he does, much like yourself?

Zipperfish said:
...but you're not partisan, right? :lol:

You're always good for a giggle, Care Bear, I'll give you that.
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Oh oh...

Is it that you're still mad at me, or the fact that you think I'm gay and well, we all know how much you hate homosexuals, that's causing you to stalk me around the board?
 
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WLDB said:
If so we're all missing out on some great BC entertainment.
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Almost a weekly occurrence out here. We've had a premier take a bag of cash from a dirt pimp, one that believed in astrology, mayor moonbeam in Vancouver. We got the short end of the stick when it came to getting federal politicians so we don't get as much national coverage.
 
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Goober said:
Old line I love
Masochist- Whip me, beat me
Sadist- No
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One of my favourites. It works too.

gerryh said:
I say again, there is no real mechanism to remove a Premier or Prime Minister. Better yet, tell me ONE instance of a Premier or Prime Minister being "removed".
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The party can force a leader out at any time. If they did that the person would lose their position as PM. Or the caucus could decide to force the leader out and chose another person to throw their support behind. Chretien was pretty much forced out of office by Paul Martine and his supporters.
 
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This whole thing is a concoction of a kangaroo court convened by the CBC.

The CBC in now infested with the homosexual agenda and have declared a vendetta on Bob Ford for snubbing the Pride Parade and movement in Toronto. They are zealous in pushing a New Age Agenda (including radical social and environmental causes) of which homosexual legitimization and affirmation is just the spearhead, and they won't stand for what they define as reactionary forces to this in the leadership the country's largest city. They intend to lever campaign this into a national crusade.

The charges are minimal, in fact non-criminal in prosecutorial sense, and private. Ford's real offense is standing in the way of the CBC's idea of progress. They intend to use innuendo, slander and a disproportionate and selective use of 'evidence' to make their case.
 
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coldstream said:
This whole thing is a concoction of a kangaroo court convened by the CBC.

The CBC in now infested with the homosexual agenda and have declared a vendetta on Bob Ford for snubbing the Pride Parade and movement in Toronto. They are zealous in pushing a New Age Agenda (including radical social and environmental causes) of which homosexual legitimization and affirmation is just the spearhead, and they won't stand for what they define as reactionary forces to this in the leadership the country's largest city. They intend to lever campaign this into a national crusade.

The charges are minimal, in fact non-criminal in prosecutorial sense, and private, the offense is standing in the way of the CBCs idea of progress. They intend to use innuendo, slander and a disproportionate and selective use of 'evidence'.
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I thought it was the Toronto Star?
 
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coldstream said:
Them too.. but they have more modest ambitions than the CBC.
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Trying to pin this whole mess on any one thing is pretty dumb. Rob just has too many problems to have it all stay under wraps. The most damaging stuff that came out had nothing to do with the media.

It was his "friends" who video taped him doing bad things and shopped it around. It was the police that confirmed the authenticity of the video and revealed a ton of troubling information about Rob through their police investigations.
 
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CDNBear said:
I agree, which is why when I see people pin it all on Ford, I laugh at them.

At any rate, it was nice to see one of you admit the Star is culpable. Thank you.
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Well ya, all the people around him enabling him certainly play a huge roll too.
 
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BornRuff said:
That is your opinion.
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No, that's actually a fact. Like your hypocrisy.

Misappropriation of funds, is a criminal offense. Something you like to ignore while your partisan agenda forces you to lie and ignore certain facts, that make you uncomfortable and show you to be wrong.

But please don't let that stop you from embarrassing yourself further.
 
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CDNBear said:
No, that's actually a fact. Like your hypocrisy.

Misappropriation of funds, is a criminal offense. Something you like to ignore while your partisan agenda forces you to lie and ignore certain facts, that make you uncomfortable and show you to be wrong.

But please don't let that stop you from embarrassing yourself further.
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You honestly think that all misappropriation of funds is caught and leads to charges? I would say that only happens in a small percentage of cases.

Ford got around it by assigning token duties to the staffers and paying back some of the money.
 
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