Imprison the Royal Family and Abolish the Monarchy

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The cast of the Sex Pistols comes to mind... Even Isaac Newton or Shakespeare.

The Queen is wwaaaayyyy down on the list.

... And Obama as well as Nelson Mandela are considered far more famous and in Mandela's case, far more important
 

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The cast of the Sex Pistols comes to mind... Even Isaac Newton or Shakespeare.

The Queen is wwaaaayyyy down on the list.

Yeah, alright then.

There are primitive tribes which worship the Queen's husband as a god, so they will also know who the Queen is, yet none of them will have heard of Shakespeare, Newton, the Sex Pistols, Obama or Mandela.

Yet they know not only the Queen but even her husband.

... And Obama as well as Nelson Mandela are considered far more famous and in Mandela's case, far more important

The Queen is more famous than both and more important than both.

The Queen is Head of State of 16 nations and the symbolic Head of the Commonwealth, an organisation which covers a quarter of the world's land area including all of its continents (even Antarctica); has one third of the world's population and represents 15% of the world's GDP. This organisation has the world's oldest democracy (Britain) and the world's largest democracy (India) as members.

Mandela, on the other hand, is just a terrorist and Obama is the grandson of one.
 

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Is the monarchy the best form of government No. However the remedy to the
situation is a hell of a lot worse than the problem. Imagine taking the steps
you propose. First they wouldn't stop with the monarchy they would kill those
who even expressed a fondness for them and so it would go on as a blood
bath until people were literatlly tired of killing others. We condemn the Taliban
for doing what is being proposed in the opening picture.
Beside the Monarchy is a state of mind more than anything else it serves a as
sober thought process and keeps govenments under the system in tune with
a process that limits excesses.
Its like having a visionual concept of God even the semi devils are afraid of a
visual concept of God if that didn't happen anarchy would prevail.
Sometimes therefore it is better we leave some things alone that has muzzle
on the crazy left and the crazy right.
 

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Is the monarchy the best form of government No. However the remedy to the
situation is a hell of a lot worse than the problem. Imagine taking the steps
you propose. First they wouldn't stop with the monarchy they would kill those
who even expressed a fondness for them and so it would go on as a blood
bath until people were literatlly tired of killing others. We condemn the Taliban
for doing what is being proposed in the opening picture.
Beside the Monarchy is a state of mind more than anything else it serves a as
sober thought process and keeps govenments under the system in tune with
a process that limits excesses.
Its like having a visionual concept of God even the semi devils are afraid of a
visual concept of God if that didn't happen anarchy would prevail.
Sometimes therefore it is better we leave some things alone that has muzzle
on the crazy left and the crazy right.


Monarchy isn't the best form of government because there are different types of monarchy. I wouldn't want to live in an Absolute Monarchy, although even that would be more preferable to living under President Cameron, President Miliband or President Obama.

Constitutional monarchy is the best form of government in today's modern world.
 

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captain morgan

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Monarchy isn't the best form of government because there are different types of monarchy. I wouldn't want to live in an Absolute Monarchy, although even that would be more preferable to living under President Cameron, President Miliband or President Obama.

Constitutional monarchy is the best form of government in today's modern world.

Your 'Monarchy' owes France everything as they essentially prevented the Germans from over-running your nation.

Don't you think it's time to have a day in the UK where you celebrate all things French?... Maybe a National Mime Appreciation Day perhaps?

PS - it's always a good show... And about to get better
 

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Yeah, alright then.

There are primitive tribes which worship the Queen's husband as a god, so they will also know who the Queen is, yet none of them will have heard of Shakespeare, Newton, the Sex Pistols, Obama or Mandela.

Yet they know not only the Queen but even her husband.
Wow! They don't know what electricity is but the know the monarchy. I don't think a few oppressed African tribes is anything to brag about.

The Queen is more famous than both and more important than both.
I hardly think the queen has done as much for people on this planet as Mandela. She is just a old hag leeching off society and inherited everything she has. I'm not sure why you are so in love with a German that married a Greek and claims to rule over England by hereditary right granted by god.
Mandela, on the other hand, is just a terrorist
You are a f*cking nutter.
 

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He signed off on the deaths of innocent people, lots of them
He was fighting racial tyranny and oppression in his homeland, not really terrorism. Compare his actions to G W Bush who signed off on many more deaths fighting for control of oil in foreign sovereign nations. No, Mandela was no terrorist, the apartheid regime were terrorists.

As President he bough a lot of military hardware
10,000.00 South African Rands = 1,021.63USD
He spent 25-38 billion Rand which is equivalent to 2.5 - 3.8 billion USD

In terms of military spending that is peanuts.

Their global rank of military spending is 42nd
42 South Africa 3,735,000,000

compared to the US
1 United States 682,478,000,000

Mandela was friendly with dictators
Lots of western leaders are friendly with dictators. The US and Brits have a long track record of not just being friendly but installing them and supporting them.
 

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He was fighting racial tyranny and oppression in his homeland, not really terrorism. Compare his actions to G W Bush who signed off on many more deaths fighting for control of oil in foreign sovereign nations. No, Mandela was no terrorist, the apartheid regime were terrorists.


10,000.00 South African Rands = 1,021.63USD
He spent 25-38 billion Rand which is equivalent to 2.5 - 3.8 billion USD

In terms of military spending that is peanuts.

Their global rank of military spending is 42nd
42 South Africa 3,735,000,000

compared to the US
1 United States 682,478,000,000


Lots of western leaders are friendly with dictators. The US and Brits have a long track record of not just being friendly but installing them and supporting them.
Your moral relativism aside, not even Amnesty International would help him at the time...

But you go on embarrassing yourself making excuses for terrorism, lol.
 

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Your moral relativism aside, not even Amnesty International would help him at the time...

But you go on embarrassing yourself making excuses for terrorism, lol.

Didn't think you had anything worthwhile in rebuttal. Just more trolling. You need new material and a reversal of the lobotomy.
 

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As the world waits with bated breath for the emergence of the latest—and cutest—member of the British Royal Family, allow us to put forth a gentle reminder: In a just world, this innocent child would be going up for adoption, since its family would have been imprisoned for crimes against humanity.

The Royal Family is no better than a family of mobsters. It sucks its sustenance from the public coffers, enriching itself greatly at the expense of poor taxpaying citizens. It operates not as a meritocracy, but through strict nepotism and strategic alliances. And its strength is a rough measure of the lack of civilization in a particular culture. To be completely clear, we are not suggesting that people should "pay less attention" to the Royal Family, or that the UK should reduce the amount of money it spends on this obscene relic of a brutal monarchical past. We are suggesting that the Royal Family should, as an institution, be completely abolished, and that its remaining members be imprisoned and forced to work for the remainder of their lives to, in some token way, repay the public for all of these years of financial support. Perhaps by making license plates, or breaking rocks.

It is amusing to reflect upon the imperial past of England, and the inherent assumptions of racial and cultural superiority that fueled it, while also noting the fact that the UK still to this very day continues to offer slavish financial, political, and cultural support to a tiny family elite notable for nothing except the lineage of the particular person's ****** from which they slunk. The persistence of the Royal Family, and the worshipful attention that it draws from the British public, is the sort of primitive superstitious voodoo that puts to shame any of the animist rituals that the colonial British would have derided as uncivilized.

The Royal Family is more than an international embarrassment, though; it is a crime against the British public. It represents the taking of precious public resources for the most undemocratic, elitist, and unproductive use. It is akin to taxing the American public to support the Kardashian family. Currently, the British monarchy gets 15% of the annual revenues generated by the Crown Estate. (Not to be confused with the slew of luxurious private estates that they own.) That will be well over $50 million this year. There are 2.5 million unemployed people in the UK right now. It is not too presumptuous to suggest that they might be able to find more productive uses for that money.

It is often suggested that the Royal Family is "affordable" or a "bargain" for taxpayers, because their cost is minor compared to other costs, and besides, they help to "generate tourism." This is incorrect. Tourists would continue to go to the Tower of London and Buckingham Palace whether or not the Royal Family was being subsidized to the tune of tens of millions of dollars annually. Money from the public treasury spent on the Royal Family is a sunk cost, a charity payment to the world's most undeserving charity. The Royal Family does not "work" for that money. The Royal Family does not sit inside Buckingham Palace from 9-5 every day, posing for pictures with tourists for $25 a pop. And even if they were, we certainly wouldn't pay them $50 million a year for that. Six pounds thirty one pence per hour, maybe.

The Royal Family did not "work" to acquire its property. The Royal Family did not "work" to acquire its wealth. The Royal Family did not "work" to acquire its prestige. All of these things have been passed down to them, due to the accident of their birth, after being accumulated over hundreds of years during which the humble citizens of the UK were obligated to give these things to the monarchy, lest they lose their heads. Though European history is littered with the corpses of royalty, it is littered far more heavily with the corpses of all of the millions upon millions of regular people who toiled in the shadows of grand castles and died in poverty as their taxes paid for the members of one lucky family to live in opulence.

The Royal Family is a grotesque relic of a less civilized time. The only just thing for a member of the Royal Family to do is, at age 18, to renounce all the privileges of their position and spend the remainder of their natural life denouncing the institution of monarchy and working feverishly to repay the public treasury for the outrageous and undignified years of support they've received. Since all of the current members of the Royal Family have passed the age of majority without having performed this basic nod towards civility, they are in contempt of the public trust. Confiscate their wealth, sell off their possessions, lock them up for theft, and strike all appropriations for the Royal Family from the public budget. Auction off the crown jewels, use the money to buy gasoline, and burn the queen's home to ground during a grand national celebration of the birth of a new society in which the public's money is put to use for the public's own benefit, and fame is accorded to those who have earned it by doing something more than being born with the right last name.

For the sake of all that is holy, please allow this Royal Baby to grow up free of the clutches of this crime family, lest its innocence be lost.

Imprison the Royal Family and Abolish the Monarchy

Yes Mr. Lenin.....................

It works.

Don't fix it.
 

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Didn't think you had anything worthwhile in rebuttal. Just more trolling. You need new material and a reversal of the lobotomy.
You didn't say anything worth wasting my time.

For good or bad, terrorism is terrorism. You called BL a nutter for calling Mandela a terrorist. He was a terrorist.

You got embarrassed, and I laughed at you. I really don't see why I needed to go any further anyways.
 

gerryh

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He was fighting racial tyranny and oppression in his homeland, not really terrorism. Compare his actions to G W Bush who signed off on many more deaths fighting for control of oil in foreign sovereign nations. No, Mandela was no terrorist, the apartheid regime were terrorists.


definition of hypocrite, nicki looking in the mirror.
 

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I wonder if he even realises how similar his way of think is to that of the oppressive South African govt?

Not at all you stupid f*ck. I give anyone an equal chance to earn their way in life. I would even hire a dumb c*nt like you if you were the best candidate. I doubt you could ever understand that with all your beliefs I owe you the whole f*cking world and a $50 tip.

Now I will try once more to educate your pea-brain. Fighting oppressive, tyrannical foreigners who invaded your homeland is a legitimate rebellion. Dropping bombs on a foreign sovereign nation who hasn't attacked you or any other nation is terrorism. Not that I expect you to do anything but troll in response.
 

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Britain owes everything to France that must have been right after the
white flag factory burned to the ground. Even the French continued
the fight from Britain.
Constitutional Monarchy is alright with me, I like others have some
things we would like to change but in comparison to other forms of
government it is not as bad as some play it up to be.
 

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Not at all you stupid f*ck.
I didn't think you did.

But it's good of you to admit you didn't know it, lol.

I doubt you could ever understand that with all your beliefs I owe you the whole f*cking world and a $50 tip.
I don't think that, maybe you should learn to read, lol.

Fighting oppressive, tyrannical foreigners who invaded your homeland is a legitimate rebellion.
Unless it's First Nations doing it, gotchya. You already admitted you didn't know you were similar to the oppressive South African govt.

Dropping bombs on a foreign sovereign nation who hasn't attacked you or any other nation is terrorism.
But you advocate that all the time.

Not that I expect you to do anything but troll in response.
Because that's all you're worth, lol.
 

gerryh

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Not at all you stupid f*ck. I give anyone an equal chance to earn their way in life. I would even hire a dumb c*nt like you if you were the best candidate. I doubt you could ever understand that with all your beliefs I owe you the whole f*cking world and a $50 tip.


This so reminds me of something a "good ol boy" from the southern states,that my Dad knew, said about African Americans:

I ain't prejudiced against ni ggers.
I ain't got nuthin fer em
I ain't got nothin gainst em.
and I think everyone should own at least one of em.