Imprison the Royal Family and Abolish the Monarchy

L Gilbert

Winterized
Nov 30, 2006
23,738
107
63
71
50 acres in Kootenays BC
the-brights.net
My mind is clogged up entirely by right ways of thinking and popular opinions.
lmao Yeah, we all believe you. uhuh

Those 300 million Yanks are so fascinated by the British Royal Family they secretly wish they had one rather than a boring - yes, boring - republic.
Or else they're just fascinated by something different.
The American form of governance, the republic, is completely and utterly boring, not to mention the fact it means you have a POLITICIAN as head of state.
And yet it's citizens are descendents of people that escaped the UK to build something better. And indeed they did. The UK is no longer an empire. It's a has been.

Give me a king or queen and the accompanying pomp and ceremony over a politician as Head of State anyday of the week.
Big deal. Kings and queens don't run anything, politicians do that. Kings and queens are just superfluous ornaments.

The thought of a President Blair just scares me. The thought of having any politician as Head of State, and being a normal, boring,run-of-the-mill country like most others, scares me.
I always thought all your tough talk was just so much piffle and you just added more evidence.

Give me the majestic and historical British monarchy anyway. Give me grand coronations, royal weddings and jubilees over miserable presidents any day of the year.
You can have it. It's a waste of money anyway.

HIGHLIGHTS of THE CORONATION OF HER MAJESTY QUEEN ELIZABETH II AT WESTMINSTER ABBEY, 2nd JUNE 1953

The Coronation of Queen Elizabeth II - YouTube
Like I said, hasbeen stuff.
 

Blackleaf

Hall of Fame Member
Oct 9, 2004
49,914
1,907
113
Or else they're just fascinated by something different.


The Yanks (like a lot of other people who live in tedious, run-of-the-mill republics) - and this is a well-known fact - are absolutely fascinated by the British monarchy, its wonderful pomp, pageantry and traditions and its glorious 1,000-year history.

As a result they all secretly wish that they had such a thing rather than the incredibly boring and tedious system of governance they rather hilariously lumbered themselves with.


And yet it's citizens are descendents of people that escaped the UK to build something better.
Many of its citizens are descended from criminals and other lowlife scum who Britain transported to the American colonies before we had to send them to Australia when the American colonies threw their toys out of the pram for selfish reasons.

The few who did go to the American colonies to build something better failed in a spectacular way. Britain is a far better place to live than Murcah. Whenever I see yet another gun spree in Murca, or take pity at the Murcans that one of their oldest buildings is the Palace of the Governors, which was built only in 1610, I thank my lucky stars I live in the greatest country that has ever bestridden planet earth.


It's a has been.
You can only be a has-been if you ever had it in the first place. That's why Canada can never be a has-been.

Kings and queens are just superfluous ornaments.
Kings and Queens ensure that Britain never has a President Blair, President Hollande or President Obama as its head.

It's a waste of money anyway.
The money going on our glorious monarchy is money well-spent. That money is being spent on the best and most interesting system of governance of the 21st Century.
 

gerryh

Time Out
Nov 21, 2004
25,756
295
83
It's a waste of money anyway.


It's already been proven that the "cost" of the Monarchy is far less than the cost of the switch to something else and then maintaining the new form of government. "Cost" is and always has been a strawman argument.
 

Cannuck

Time Out
Feb 2, 2006
30,245
99
48
Alberta
You can only be a has-been if you ever had it in the first place. That's why Canada can never be a has been

You are so silly. Far more people leave your dreary country to come to Canada than leave Canada to go to your dreary country. It has so few redeeming qualities. I do find it's nostalgia for its glory days quite quaint yet sad at the same time
 

Blackleaf

Hall of Fame Member
Oct 9, 2004
49,914
1,907
113
Far more people leave your dreary country to come to Canada


And then regret it, and in no time at all return to good old Blighty with its better standard of living.

And to call Britain dreary, a Britain which today has been basking in warm spring sunshine whilst yours suffers -50F temperatures and lies under 50 foot thick ice sheets and permafrost in the height of summer, is a bit daft, to say the lease.
 

Cannuck

Time Out
Feb 2, 2006
30,245
99
48
Alberta
It's already been proven that the "cost" of the Monarchy is far less than the cost of the switch to something else and then maintaining the new form of government. "Cost" is and always has been a strawman argument.

Agreed. To me cost is irrelevant. I don't support any system that does not consider all men equal in law
 

L Gilbert

Winterized
Nov 30, 2006
23,738
107
63
71
50 acres in Kootenays BC
the-brights.net
The Yanks (like a lot of other people who live in tedious, run-of-the-mill republics) - and this is a well-known fact - are absolutely fascinated by the British monarchy, its wonderful pomp, pageantry and traditions and its glorious 1,000-year history.
I agree with you.

As a result they all secretly wish that they had such a thing rather than the incredibly boring and tedious system of governance they rather hilariously lumbered themselves with.
Bollox. Got any evidence, or is it just more of your blather?

Many of its citizens are descended from criminals and other lowlife scum who Britain transported to the American colonies before we had to send them to Australia when the American colonies threw their toys out of the pram for selfish reasons.
So? What constituted "criminal" back in those days were things like commoners speaking out against injustices from royalty, harsh conditions they had to endure that were brought about by royatly, speaking out against the Church, etc. rather than what societies these days call criminal behavior.

The few who did go to the American colonies to build something better failed in a spectacular way. Britain is a far better place to live than Murcah.
Meh, just more of your opinion. Baseless piffle.
Whenever I see yet another gun spree in Murca, or take pity at the Murcans that one of their oldest buildings is the Palace of the Murcans, which was built only in 1610, I thank my lucky stars I live in the greatest country that has ever bestridden planet earth.
I'm happy for you. lol


You can only be a has-been if you ever had it in the first place. That's why Canada can never be a has-been.
Meh. Empire building is a futile endeavor. It always ends in rot and more waste of life than gain.

Kings and Queens ensure that Britain never has a President Blair, President Hollande or President Obama as its head.
Right. Like I said, a waste of money.

The money going on our glorious monarchy is money well-spent. That money is being spent on the best and most interesting system of governance of the 21st Century.
In your little mind. Typically, monarchies have been brutal on their peoples, dictatorial, aristocratic as opposed to democratic, and are archaic and sometimes draconian.
 

WLDB

Senate Member
Jun 24, 2011
6,182
0
36
Ottawa
It






If he is a dictator he is the weakest one in history. He cant get anything done because of opposition. What dictator would put up with that? Most if not all others would have imprisoned or killed the opposition.
 

L Gilbert

Winterized
Nov 30, 2006
23,738
107
63
71
50 acres in Kootenays BC
the-brights.net
It's already been proven that the "cost" of the Monarchy is far less than the cost of the switch to something else and then maintaining the new form of government. "Cost" is and always has been a strawman argument.
Speaking of strawmen, I agree that switching is a bad idea, but I'm not talking about that at all. All I am saying is that monarchies are passe and are not what people use as governments. Dead weight.
 

Blackleaf

Hall of Fame Member
Oct 9, 2004
49,914
1,907
113
Bollox. Got any evidence, or is it just more of your blather?

What more evidence do you need?

So? What constituted "criminal" back in those days were things like commoners speaking out against injustices from royalty, harsh conditions they had to endure that were brought about by royatly, speaking out against the Church, etc. rather than what societies these days call criminal behavior.
They were criminals, the scum at the bottom of the bucket of British society, that was scraped off and sent to the dumping ground on the other side of the Atlantic. It's not hard to see why America's crime rate is so high.

Meh, just more of your opinion. Baseless piffle.I'm happy for you. lol
I'd rather live in Blighty than Murca. There's not much in American society which makes me want to suddenly up sticks and move there. Canada is the same. Britain is by far the best of the three countries to live in. You know that as well as I do.

Meh. Empire building is a futile endeavour
It wasn't for Britain. It made us rich.

Right. Like I said, a waste of money.
We spend money on Elizabeth II. The Yanks spend theirs on Bush and Obama, and the Frogs spend theirs on Hollande, Sarkozy and Chirac. It's not us Brits who are wasting money.

Typically, monarchies have been brutal on their peoples, dictatorial, aristocratic as opposed to democratic, and are archaic and sometimes draconian.
I can say exactly the same thing about republics.
 

L Gilbert

Winterized
Nov 30, 2006
23,738
107
63
71
50 acres in Kootenays BC
the-brights.net
If he is a dictator he is the weakest one in history. He cant get anything done because of opposition. What dictator would put up with that? Most if not all others would have imprisoned or killed the opposition.
It doesn't matter anyway. The prez actually runs the country, unlike the British monarchy. It runs its own house and that's about it (and doesn't even do that very well sometimes).
 

L Gilbert

Winterized
Nov 30, 2006
23,738
107
63
71
50 acres in Kootenays BC
the-brights.net
What more evidence do you need?
Results of studies, statistics, etc. Anything that supports your idea that Americans "secretly" wish what you said they wished.

They were criminals, the scum at the bottom of the bucket of British society, that was scraped off and sent to the dumping ground on the other side of the Atlantic. It's not hard to see why America's crime rate is so high.
And Canada's, too?
Top 10 Countries With Highest Crime Rate in the World | Which Country has the Highest Crime Rate in the World | WhichCountry.co
Frack, you're funny. :D

I'd rather live in Blighty than Murca. There's not much in American society which makes me want to suddenly up sticks and move there. Canada is the same. Britain is by far the best of the three countries to live in. You know that as well as I do.
Ask me if I care what you would rather do. :D

It wasn't for Britain. It made us rich.

We spend money on Elizabeth II. The Yanks spend theirs on Bush and Obama, and the Frogs spend theirs on Hollande, Sarkozy and Chirac. It's not us Brits who are wasting money.

I can say exactly the same thing about republics.
More piffle. Fec kin funny shyte.

That's why America's ****ed if its president ever turns into a dictator.
lmao I was speaking of the office, not the individual.
 

relic

Council Member
Nov 29, 2009
1,408
3
38
Nova Scotia
Reading all this I can hear "English Bob" and "Little Bill" from the Unforgiven, good movie, I've watched it a number of times.
As to the subject of the thread, I could care less. I'm far more concerned about Canada funding quebek separatists.
 

Blackleaf

Hall of Fame Member
Oct 9, 2004
49,914
1,907
113
Results of studies, statistics, etc. Anything that supports your idea that Americans "secretly" wish what you said they wished.


I just use those things which are often used sparingly by certain people nowadays - common sense and common knowledge.

CRIME RATE PER COUNTRY (2014)

CRIME INDEX

United States: 50.15
United Kingdom: 42.62


SAFETY INDEX

UNITED STATES: 49.85
UNITED KINGDOM: 57.38


Crime Index by Country 2014

And don't even get me started on the murder rate, which is far higher in the US than it is in England & Wales (although murder rates in most coumtries are far higher than they are in England & Wales).



Ask me if I care what you would rather do. :D
You do care.

More piffle. Fec kin funny shyte.
Good point though, wasn't it?


To say that all republics are bastions of democracy and freedom (Russia, China and North Korea are republics), which commit no brutal acts on their peoples and aren't archaic (Ancient Rome was a republic at some point), means you are just uttering the words of an incoherent madman.

lmao I was speaking of the office, not the individual.
America will be ****ed if its president ever became a dictator. That's what happens when you stupidly make the Head of State and the Head of Government be the same person.

Our monarch is a great bulwark against dictatorship.
 
Last edited:

L Gilbert

Winterized
Nov 30, 2006
23,738
107
63
71
50 acres in Kootenays BC
the-brights.net
I just use those things which are often used sparingly by certain people nowadays - common sense and common knowledge.
Of course you do. lmao Common knowledge and common sense used to tell people that the planet was flat, too.

CRIME RATE PER COUNTRY (2014)

CRIME INDEX

United States: 50.15
United Kingdom: 42.62


SAFETY INDEX

UNITED STATES: 49.85
UNITED KINGDOM: 57.38


Crime Index by Country 2014
Not going to answer my question? What about Canada's crime rate? Well, by golly, it's 36.29. But but but, isn't that lower than the UK's? Why, yes it is.
Whatta maroon.
And don't even get me started on the murder rate, which is far higher in the US than it is in England & Wales (although murder rates in most coumtries are far higher than they are in England & Wales).
So? Crime rates a crime rate.

You do care.
Good point though, wasn't it?
Attagirl, Blacklung, you just keep tellin yourself that.

To say that all republics are bastions of democracy and freedom (Russia, China and North Korea are republics), which commit no brutal acts on their peoples and aren't archaic (Ancient Rome was a republic at some point), means you are just uttering the words of an incoherent madman.
Who said that?

America will be ****ed if its president ever became a dictator. That's what happens when you stupidly make the Head of State and the Head of Government be the same person.
Really? That's an inevitable result of having each head the same person? lmao I'd love to see you provide support for that statement.

Our monarch is a great bulwark against dictatorship.
Hasbeen.

Anyway, back to the topic. I think we have no choice but to carry on toting the dead weight of the monarchy. (scuse the pun)