We have excellent heathcare right across North America.
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It's at least an idea with possibilities. But mention the word private in context with the word healthcare in public in this country, and you get an irrational response almost every time. And we can't afford to not talk about it anymore. Healthcare is important and even more so now with the aging boomer population. What worked in the 70's is not working now. I don't care if they leave it in our taxes or not, I want to see efficient use of health care dollars.
THere could be if it was run like ICBC. A one payer system with for profit providers works well. Other than hospitals that is how most of our medical system works anyway. Our main problem is that there is too much administration. And a bunch of vested interests in keeping things like they are.
My only agenda is to hush extremism, on all sides and all topics, it sickens me to no end. That and get opposing reasonable opinions. For every single issue there are multiple views, multiple solutions and multiple ways of addressing them. I prefer the common sense route.
Well I don't think our health system is wonderful, I also don't think Obama is the devil incarnate, I also believe that there are a great many things the United States can do much much better on and no need for apologies. I also believe you have many problems and your own health system needs remodeling, that's not implying following our model, but our model isn't the worst either, thousands of people a year come to the US for medical attention, they don't come here because we're expensive and flawed, they come here because they know cutting edge medical breakthroughs happen here.
I would have to put a price on my health care if we did not have the current system so I do have a pony in that race. My father would have died with his health issues had we lived in the States or we would have been bankrupt. Peoples lives can change in an instant, through no fault of their own. Some don't seem to get that even on this forum. The poor are just lazy...that makes me feel defensive. I work with kids in those environments and the judgement makes me insane. I know you are not like that. So sorry.
Some poor people may be lazy, some are also "hooked" on their lifestyle and it takes enormous support to get out of that. I didn't grow up with a silver spoon in my mouth, I came from a financially dirt poor family and the only thing that got me out of was my own determination. I highly doubt your dad would have died, I don't know if you would have been bankrupt either, I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I also believe people also don't want to be accountable for their own actions.
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And it is wonderful that they can afford to.
Administration of our health care system is a huge issue. Hospital CEOs make big money and are bonused like corporations even when their budgets don't balance and the running of the hospital is poor. It's funny how that works
While that is true, some people don't, because they are as you say hooked on a lifestye, if you can get the kids and turn them around, it's the beginning.
Don't know the system but we need to examine various options...there are countries in Europe who seemed to have reach a good balance and provide wonderful medical care
ICBC is BC's socialized car insurance. While not without it's faults it does a good job of keeping repair costs in line. They dictate to the autobody shops what they will pay for certain repairs. Also the standards for shops. Shops are of course permitted to do all the non insured jobs they wish at whatever the market will bear but to do insurance jobs they must fallow the rules.
If they run it like ICBC just think of all the managers getting bonuses,hell at ICBC it wasn't even only the managers.Such an efficient organization they had barrels of money to give away. ICBC has had an increase in managers in the area of 79% in the last three years and a 6% increase in workers. We really need more crown corps.
The US will only default if BHO breaks the law and defies the constitution which he vowed to uphold and defend.
In the great scheme of things $120.50/month maybe not be the full amount, but it has to be very close, because I don't pay a hell of a lot of tax when you consider all the destinations my meagre tax is spread among. Fire protection, police protection, parks, libraries, animal shelters, welfare for the destitute, operation of jails, insane asylums, day care for kids, highway construction and maintenance, vehicle inspections, drivers' exams and so on ad infinitim oh yeah and big troughs for politicians. If they get an extra $10 a month out of me from all that I'd be surprised.
Half of those come out of your municipal taxes that is another kettle of fish.
Vehicle inspections are farmed out to garages and cost dearly. What tax $ are paying for daycare ?
The biggest expense for every provincial government is health care. After health then the rest is spread around .
I pay under $900 a year municipal tax. I have no idea what I pay for subsidized day care, but I know we all pay a bat. Healthcare amounts to about 40% of the provincial budget, so I guess I'm actually only paying a portion out of pocket. But I certainly have nothing to complain about, still have 4 limbs, some eyesight, some hair, a few teeth, what more could a guy want?
I remember many years ago my Dad telling me his mother pulled her own teeth. That would have been between W.W.I and the Great Depression.