Merger of the Century: Why Canada and America Should Become One Country

[Sons of Liberty]

America needs a strong party like Canada's federal NDP to keep the others honest. Unfortunately US law prevents a third party ever being formed (or at least that's what I was told by a US teacher).

I'm not sure who is dumber, the teacher or you.

 

[Goober]

Unfortunately US law prevents a third party ever being formed (or at least that's what I was told by a US teacher).

I completely missed the above statement.
Can you name 1 Western Democracy that has such a law?
None is the correct answer.

 

[JLM]

America needs a strong party like Canada's federal NDP to keep the others honest. Unfortunately US law prevents a third party ever being formed (or at least that's what I was told by a US teacher).

Surely you meant this to go into the "Jokes" category!

There have been numerous parties in the US. But only 2 make the grade as National.
We have had Ross run and Nader as well.

United States presidential election, 1992 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ross drew enough votes from Bush Snr. to elect Clinton.
Bill Clinton -44,909,806
George H. W. Bush - 39,104,550
Ross Perot - 19,743,821

Nader ran and drew enough vote from Gore to elct Bush Jnr. ran
Ralph Nader presidential campaign, 2000 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The "spoiler" controversy

In the 2000 presidential election in Florida, George W. Bush defeated Al Gore by 537 votes. Nader received 97,421 votes, which led to claims that he was responsible for Gore's defeat. Nader, both in his book Crashing the Party and on his website, states: "In the year 2000, exit polls reported that 25% of my voters would have voted for Bush, 38% would have voted for Gore and the rest would not have voted at all."[18] (which would net a 13%, 12,665 votes, advantage for Gore over Bush.) When asked about claims of being a spoiler, Nader typically points to the controversial Supreme Court ruling that halted a Florida recount, Gore's loss in his home state of Tennessee, and the "quarter million Democrats who voted for Bush in Florida."[7]

Good post................you saved me from having to research it!

 

[Goober]

Surely you meant this to go into the "Jokes" category!



Good post................you saved me from having to research it!

I recalled all the controversy. Sometimes the old memory works, other times not so well.

 

[JLM]

I recalled all the controversy. Sometimes the old memory works, other times not so well.

Yeah, my memory is generally good....................BUT it's short!

 

[Goober]

Yeah, my memory is generally good....................BUT it's short!

Well my memory is short, but my d-ick is long, but not as good as it once was, but as good once as it ever was.
LMAO

 

[tober]

I'm ignoring your knee-jerk anti-American foolishness in this post to say one thing:

The US teacher was an idiot.

There are many political parties, and have been many political parties in the USA. Reform, Progressives, Bull Moose....

Have any ever formed part of the federal government in modern times?

I completely missed the above statement. Can you name 1 Western Democracy that has such a law?
None is the correct answer.

Law and practice are often quoted under the generic term "law". Many things that are not legally prohibited are, practically speaking, legally impossible. Has there ever been a third national party taking up seats in the US Congress since the 19th Century? "None is the correct answer."

 

[Goober]

Have any ever formed part of the federal government in modern times?

Not the point- Your knowledge of the US Govt is abysmal.
I still learn about it. As I did on Colpys post on the budget process.

Have any ever formed part of the federal government in modern times?



Law and practice are often quoted under the generic term "law". Many things that are not legally prohibited are, practically speaking, legally impossible. Has there ever been a third national party taking up seats in the US Congress since the 19th Century? "None is the correct answer."

Law & practice -then we have prohibited by law as was your understanding - belief. Thought that should be clarified.
Clearly missed, I am sure it was just an oversight.

 

[tober]

Not the point- Your knowledge of the US Govt is abysmal.
I still learn about it. As I did on Colpys post on the budget process.

Law & practice -then we have prohibited by law as was your understanding - belief. Thought that should be clarified.
Clearly missed, I am sure it was just an oversight.

I don't understand - are you saying there is a US law prohibiting another political party?

 

[Goober]

I don't understand - are you saying there is a US law prohibiting another political party?

America needs a strong party like Canada's federal NDP to keep the others honest. Unfortunately US law prevents a third party ever being formed (or at least that's what I was told by a US teacher).

I know you do not always understand. Reason why I ask questions.

 

[tober]

I know you do not always understand. Reason why I ask questions.

Quote: Originally Posted by tober

I don't understand - are you saying there is a US law prohibiting another political party?
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So what's the answer?

 

[Goober]

America worships the greenback. Full stop. When the word "Property" is spoken out loud in public, all Americans within hearing are supposed to bow towards Washington, DC. That's the biggest reason why America is such a moral dead end. US lefties look much better than their righties right now, but let's not forget that the US the Democratic Party is way right of Canada's right. If they were here they'd be flat out called right wingers. As an organization the Democrats ride comfortably along being pulled further right by the Republican Party and gaining more power without trying to change very much at all. America needs a strong party like Canada's federal NDP to keep the others honest. Unfortunately US law prevents a third party ever being formed (or at least that's what I was told by a US teacher).

Should Canadians merge with that mentality? We are culturally far too different to make a good fit.



That means you are giving up control. The only control you have over a publicly traded corporation is through the economy. If Americans had as much control as they needed over US companies, their jobs would not now be in Asia. A crown corporation, like Air Canada, would never even try it because no politician would put his neck on the line. The opposition would make hay and the public would say no. The only people your ideology supports are the upper economic 1%. Are you one of the dreamers who thinks that if you keep supporting the elite one day they'll let you be rich?

Complete post you made. Why play games.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Diane Francis knows only one thing. She's pro business, nothing wrong with that in itself, but she sees everything through the single lens of what's good for business. The nuances of political, social, and cultural differences go right over her head.

 

[Goober]

Diane Francis knows only one thing. She's pro business, nothing wrong with that in itself, but she sees everything through the single lens of what's good for business. The nuances of political, social, and cultural differences go right over her head.

But she is correct in the power blocks locking up resources.
When you gander around the world, most Govt own a substantial portion of the resources.
Iraq now has service agreements and a certain dollar value per barrel developed.
The percentage of minerals-oil locked up by Nations is around 80 % for oil alone.
We have untold wealth and do not have the money to develop it.

 

[tober]

....We have untold wealth and do not have the money to develop it.

Are you sure about that? Nobody is expected to have the money to develop all the resources all at once, Money to develop assets comes from asset sales in most cases.

 

[Goober]

Are you sure about that? Nobody is expected to have the money to develop all the resources all at once, Money to develop assets comes from asset sales in most cases.

Look at China, Russia and other countries sovereign funds locking up resources.

 

[tober]

Look at China, Russia and other countries sovereign funds locking up resources.

I referred to your statement that, "We have untold wealth and do not have the money to develop it." It sounds pretty extreme, although I must admit it is also so general I am unclear what you meant. Who is "we" and what do you mean that we don't have the money to develop our resources? The last I heard, the greater fear was that resources would be used up.

 

[Goober]

I referred to your statement that, "We have untold wealth and do not have the money to develop it." It sounds pretty extreme, although I must admit it is also so general I am unclear what you meant. Who is "we" and what do you mean that we don't have the money to develop our resources? The last I heard, the greater fear was that resources would be used up.

Canada does not have the funds to open the Northern areas for resource extraction.
This is not something that happens overnight.
The sovereign funds are playing the long game.
Look to Ontario and the area referred to as the Ring of Fire- The resources in that area alone are worth hundreds of billions plus.

 

[tober]

Canada does not have the funds to open the Northern areas for resource extraction.
This is not something that happens overnight.
The sovereign funds are playing the long game.
Look to Ontario and the area referred to as the Ring of Fire- The resources in that area alone are worth hundreds of billions plus.

Are you one of the US right wingers who thinks America has some kind of natural right to access our resources, so we should open our borders to US developers? Should we feel obliged to let you screw up Canada the way you have screwed up the United States?

 

[Goober]

Are you one of the US right wingers who thinks America has some kind of natural right to access our resources, so we should open our borders to US developers? Should we feel obliged to let you screw up Canada the way you have screwed up the United States?

Did I say that. You have a problem understanding what I stated about sovereign funds, power blocks locking up resources, then point out why it is good for Canada. I think the opposite.
I also think that the Govt's should have a stake as part of any deals on leases, pipelines and such, yes includes the provinces as well.