I love it. I think every kid that ever shows any kind of "violent tendency" should be expelled "for the safety of the children."
I love it. I think every kid that ever shows any kind of "violent tendency" should be expelled "for the safety of the children."
They would suffer for their actions. I would not be running to papers crying foul over sweet johnny and his rights to 'play with guns in the backyard' and pretend he was an angel.
The bus stop has always been 'school ground'. We were always told that we could be suspended for what happens while waiting for or riding the bus.
As they should - but at the hands of the parents or the law
The bus stop has always been 'school ground'. We were always told that we could be suspended for what happens while waiting for or riding the bus.
Apparently to their satisfaction they can. He says they investigated. I'm not sure, that's why I've said 'if', repeatedly.
See, there's a balance between being an anti-gun nut, and being a gun nut. This one doesn't really read as nutty if the kids were actually shooting at fellow students at the bus stop, with bb guns.
From the principal's letter.... "we identified the children who were firing pellet guns at each other and at people near the bus stop. Several students verified that they had been hit by pellets and had the marks to support their claims. In one instance, a child was only 10 feet from the bus stop and ran from the shots being fired but was still hit. Another student claimed to be shot in the back while running away during a previous incident Wednesday, Sept. 11. This child was also shot in the arm and head during Thursday’s incident. I contacted the school division’s Office of Student Leadership and School Board Legal Counsel for guidance. Because students were on their way to or at a school bus stop when they were struck by pellets, the school division has jurisdiction "
This just doesn't read like people overreacting, it reads as pretty reasonable response.
Ok. I am guilty of not reading the links. But I think expulsion is too strong a penalty for a 1st offense.
Americans don't seem to mind kids playing with real guns, but then suspend them from school for playing with toy ones.
Well observed.
When I was a Prairie urchin, the miscreants in our neighbourhood used to manufacture their own gunpowder and blow up toy soldiers. I shudder to think how these chemists would be treated in America today!
I'm not saying it is ok. Heck, if my boys pointed a gun, even an airsoft gun, at anyone they would lose the gun and answer to me and I can do a lot more than the school or the cops.Ah, so your claim to them being wrong in this case is legal loopholes and wrangling.... not that what the boys were doing was actually okay, or that what they were doing was what was presented in the article.
I would fight for his rights. One thing I strongly believe is we should NEVER give up our rights for any reason. Would I present any of my kids as angels? Never because there is no such thing. Would they have to answer to me for it? Absolutely.See, I don't especially care for school boards, I've had my fair share of butting heads with the administraion.... BUT.... had my 12 year old been shooting fellow students as they waited to board the bus, you can guarantee I would not lift a finger to go to bat for them against the school. They would suffer for their actions. I would not be running to papers crying foul over sweet johnny and his rights to 'play with guns in the backyard' and pretend he was an angel.
I'm confused. Do you want the school involved or not?I think it's fair for the schools to not try to deal with a student's violent tendencies. I think they should get to draw the line somewhere, and put the onus on the parents to deal with their own kids, at some point. Once it's dealt with, they should be back at school.
I doubt there would be a criminal record. They might get a good scare from having the feds haul them to the station. They might even get hauled in front of a judge to be put into a diversion program but unless this was a pattern of multiple incidents they wouldn't get a record.I don't get how a criminal record is better than school expulsion.
Well observed.
When I was a Prairie urchin, the miscreants in our neighbourhood used to manufacture their own gunpowder and blow up toy soldiers. I shudder to think how these chemists would be treated in America today!
Hubby and his cousins used to make pipe bombs and blow up all manner of stuff around the farm.
But, they still would have been suspended for pinging fellow students with bb guns at the bus stop.
This crap has to stop. The school system should be responsible for teaching
the courses they teach at school they should have no say in what the children
do in their own yard. Again where the hell are the elected authorities? People
are losing their personal freedoms and their rights at home. Enough already.
I'm confused. Do you want the school involved or not?
We used to make our own bows and we`d use rooster feathers to fletch our arrows. Great fun until someone gor a bloody temple. Parents! Go figger! Afterwards, we made slingshots using car inner tubes.
How do you injure somebody with toys? Beat them with them? An old school Tonka could really do some damage.
Still toys. Just like a water pistol or cap gun. That's why they have the orange tip.