When he got jailed?
I seriously doubt he was asking to be a woman before he sent all that info to wikileaks.
I don't see it here...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/22/us-usa-wikileaks-manning-idUSBRE97J0JI20130822
Bradley Manning is now Chelsea ok...
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When he got jailed?
I seriously doubt he was asking to be a woman before he sent all that info to wikileaks.
I don't see it here...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/22/us-usa-wikileaks-manning-idUSBRE97J0JI20130822
Can you show me a link that says that? I've been looking.
This is his quote from today...
"I am Chelsea Manning. I am a female. Given the way that I feel, and have felt since childhood, I want to begin hormone therapy as soon as possible."
So what process was started exactly?
Read that years ago. When I have a chance I will look.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning
Deployment to Iraq, discussion with counselor
After four weeks at the Joint Readiness Training Center (JRTC) in Fort Polk, Louisiana, she was deployed to Forward Operating Base Hammer, near Baghdad, arriving in October 2009. From her workstation there, she had access to SIPRNet (the Secure Internet Protocol Router Network) and JWICS (the Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communications System). Two of her superiors had discussed not taking her to Iraq – it was felt she was "a risk to himself and possibly others," according to a statement later issued by the army – but again the shortage of intelligence analysts held sway.[32]
A month later, in November 2009, she was promoted from Private First Class to Specialist. According to her chats with Adrian Lamo, she made her first contact with WikiLeaks that same month, shortly after it posted 570,000 pager messages from the 9/11 attacks, which it released on November 25.[33] Also in November, Manning wrote to a gender counselor in the United States, said she felt female, and discussed having sex reassignment surgery. The counselor told Steve Fishman of New York Magazine that it was clear Manning was in crisis, partly because of her gender concerns, but also because she was opposed to the kind of war in which she found herself involved.[34]
She was by all accounts unhappy and isolated. Because of the army's "Don't ask, don't tell" policy (known as DADT, which was repealed in September 2011), she was not allowed to be openly gay, though she apparently made no secret of it. When she told her roommate she was gay, the roommate responded by suggesting they not speak to each other. Her working conditions – 14–15 hour night shifts in a dimly lit secure room – did not help her emotional well being.[35] On December 20, 2009, after being told she would lose her one day off a week for persistent lateness, she overturned a table in a conference room, damaging a computer that was sitting on it, before other soldiers pinned her arms behind her back. Several witnesses to the incident believed her access to sensitive material ought to have been withdrawn at that point. The following month she began posting on Facebook that she felt alone and hopeless.[36]
He just said it today.
I'm sorry Goobs... he didn't start any treatment and where he is going it isn't offered.
Manning Wants To Live As A Woman Named Chelsea : NPR
That's from NPR... it doesn't get much liberal.
So this is the closest he got to the process... a letter to a counselor.
That pig ain't going to fly!
No he was like many- caught in between. Does the US Military offer gender reassignment, counseling and surgery if the requirements are met.
The Canadian Military does due to the fact that when a certain number of Provinces offer this the Military is required to also offer it.
In 99, my base was tasked with Kosovo, and 2 tours concurrent to Bosnia. If you had a heartbeat you were going.
The quality line for deployment sucked big time.
What we took with us was scary.
I retired at the end of my tour,came home, did the 30 day +1 plan out the door plan, went back and over the next 3 years I can tell you there were troops there that I would not trust with a butter knife.
And as I was one of the few that was out and around with Soldiers assigned, if the shxt hit, I was taking their rifle and looking after things as they could not.
The US Military was in the same position.
T-Bone's article says he e-mailed the pic of himself to his military counselor, and expressed hope that military service would rid him of orientation. That doesn't read as something he managed after arrest, or would express after his arrest.
He just made his 35 years even tougher than they would have been. We are talking about a military type prison, and he will remain a male until such time as he is released.
I bet it would have been equally tough if he admitted to transgender, or just seemed transgendered/slight/effeminate
so - the military took someone with psych. problems- sent him/her into the bizarre hellhole called "Iraq'- assigned them to process sensitive classified information and wonder at the reaction...
Yup that is exactly what they did.so - the military took someone with psych. problems- sent him/her into the bizarre hellhole called "Iraq'- assigned them to process sensitive classified information and wonder at the reaction...
I find it extremely odd that such care would not be 'required' until it comes at the taxpayer expense.
Yepper, Karrie: He's a little guy, slight build, and is in for 35 years of hurt even if he talked like John Wayne. (not Gacey)
Feel kind of sorry for the fellah/gal/whatever.
That doesn't sound to be the case. He was dealing with a military shrink before his arrest.
Well, he can continue to see the shrink then. As for treatment, that can wait until he is a free man after he is released from prison. It wasn't a rush before, it doesn't need to be a rush now.
- He won't be anybody's bitch
- Whoever did the psych screening when he signed up failed
- The guy had the balls to sign up and go to Iraq
- He f*cked up by disseminating information
- They kept him at his job knowing he lacked moral fibre and stability.
- Yes, taxpayers are on the hook now for transgender hormones and whatever else they do.