North American Shale

lone wolf

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Is GE fracking shale? I'll assume (in context) your GE refers to Genetic Engineering - only 'cuz General Electric isn't all that environmentally friendly. Check out Peterborough
 

petros

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GE is the biggest manufacturer of and exclusive Nor Am contractor for the supplying green nat gas turbines for electricity to eradicate dirty ol' coal.

You can blame the green movement's war on coal for all the frakking that's going on.
 

petros

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From when you were a kid? Really? How does it fit in with today's reality of resource development and extraction?
 

hunboldt

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So what you're really doing is trolling ... or is it "tossing a cat among the pigeons"


He's having another ' fight everyone week!~"

The Fracking industry has run up a big red herring in that the methane beds rarely leak- which they trumpet- but the well casings often do. Which they try to hide.
 

captain morgan

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Hence the watchdogs now....


Are you really that stupid that you believe corporations don't cut corners to increase profit?


Even back in 1911?

Talk abut moronic statements in referring to how Standard Oil (circa 1911) represents the regulatory environment today along with corporate practices.

Think about getting your handler to put your hockey helmet back on... Your brain damage is only getting worse

The Fracking industry has run up a big red herring in that the methane beds rarely leak- which they trumpet- but the well casings often do. Which they try to hide.

Prove it crack-boy
 

hunboldt

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Even back in 1911?

Talk abut moronic statements in referring to how Standard Oil (circa 1911) represents the regulatory environment today along with corporate practices.

Think about getting your handler to put your hockey helmet back on... Your brain damage is only getting worse



Prove it crack-boy


Captain Morgan, wonder girrrl of the Salivation Army, challenges al pundits to an on line insult fest
 

karrie

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He's having another ' fight everyone week!~"

The Fracking industry has run up a big red herring in that the methane beds rarely leak- which they trumpet- but the well casings often do. Which they try to hide.


Considering that the anti-frakking crowd tend to use water wells as the 'proof' that petro wells are leaking methane, can you explain to me why petro wells will hit methane, petro well casings will leak.... but people think water wells won't do either of those things?

The ground could care less why you're punching a hole in the earth.... what you hit is what you hit. And water wells in gas country have been known to be flammable on occasion since they started punching them.
 

hunboldt

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Considering that the anti-frakking crowd tend to use water wells as the 'proof' that petro wells are leaking methane, can you explain to me why petro wells will hit methane, petro well casings will leak.... but people think water wells won't do either of those things?

The ground could care less why you're punching a hole in the earth.... what you hit is what you hit. And water wells in gas country have been known to be flammable on occasion since they started punching them.


Methane: Good Gas, Bad Gas - Pictures, More From National Geographic Magazine
 

karrie

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A casing leak is a profit loss. Greedy Corporations don't tolerate profit losses.


Especially since it is not one company working on a hole. A lot of people don't get that.

When a hole is drilled, a drilling rig company drills it, service companies run tools down it, all under contract to the oil company. When something goes wrong, someone pays. It's never as simple as 'ah well, we'll just let that profit dribble away'. There is ALWAYS a review to see who needs to cover the cost of whatever is going wrong down-hole.
 

petros

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Especially since it is not one company working on a hole. A lot of people don't get that.

When a hole is drilled, a drilling rig company drills it, service companies run tools down it, all under contract to the oil company. When something goes wrong, someone pays. It's never as simple as 'ah well, we'll just let that profit dribble away'. There is ALWAYS a review to see who needs to cover the cost of whatever is going wrong down-hole.
I don't use purple.
 

Nick Danger

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Years of watching government, environmental lobbies and big business have left me more than a little cynical, and reluctant to blindly accept what I read/hear/see in the media. Everyone these days knows the value of media coverage, and courting public opinion has been elevated to an art form. It becomes a challenge for the reader to arrive at an informed opinion with so many obviously biased viewpoints all competing to have you dance to their tune. It concerns me that if I start with something like a google search on "hydraulic fracking" that I will get a raft of anti-fracking appeals to save the environment from the greedy oil mongers, a lot of horror stories from alleged "victims" of the practice, a lot of "scientific studies" from sources of questionable bias, some government studies of the same questionable bias, and a few submissions from the industry itself touting financial benefits without offering much technical information to counter the environmentalist claims. Honestly, where does one go for the straight goods ?
 

petros

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Years of watching government, environmental lobbies and big business have left me more than a little cynical, and reluctant to blindly accept what I read/hear/see in the media. Everyone these days knows the value of media coverage, and courting public opinion has been elevated to an art form. It becomes a challenge for the reader to arrive at an informed opinion with so many obviously biased viewpoints all competing to have you dance to their tune. It concerns me that if I start with something like a google search on "hydraulic fracking" that I will get a raft of anti-fracking appeals to save the environment from the greedy oil mongers, a lot of horror stories from alleged "victims" of the practice, a lot of "scientific studies" from sources of questionable bias, some government studies of the same questionable bias, and a few submissions from the industry itself touting financial benefits without offering much technical information to counter the environmentalist claims. Honestly, where does one go for the straight goods ?
Have you ever worked in the industry?