Canada's Left Okay with Corruption

[captain morgan]

Considering you have yet to show me the slightest inkling that you you know anything about that which you speak of, I definitely won't be holding my breath, waiting for you to show me how wrong I am.

I'm guessing that this information is upsetting as it may have a direct impact on yourself.

Denial will only result in ones ability to prepare in advance

 

[Cannuck]

I'm guessing that this information is upsetting as it may have a direct impact on yourself.

On the contrary. My employer sees the benefit of using the sick days as short term disability. It's far cheaper than buying short term disability insurance. I'm not surprised that the Conservatives have an issue with it, given their piss poor money management skills. They (and their supporters) have trouble understanding these simple concepts. With any luck, the Cons will bring Preston Manning back and we can have a truly conservative party once again.

 

[Goober]

The banked sick days is a way to give employees short term disability without the expense of insurance premiums. If an employee is abusing the system, that is the fault of management.

You sound like a Union Rep.

 

[captain morgan]

On the contrary. My employer sees the benefit of using the sick days as short term disability.

Not for long... hehehehe

It's far cheaper than buying short term disability insurance.

There is no employer obligation to provide any insurance other than WCB... Expect that one to be clawed back as well

You sound like a Union Rep.

Morning Goobs... Golfing later today?

 

[Cannuck]

Not for long... hehehehe

For long.... heheheheh

There is no employer obligation to provide any insurance other than WCB... Expect that one to be clawed back as well

Who said they were obligated? They do it because they understand the benefits of giving employees short term disability. BTW, that's the same reason any employer gives any benefits to their employees. Clearly you didn't have a decent enough job to get benefits and are bitter about it. Like I said before, jealousy is such a petty and childish emotion.

 

[Goober]

On the contrary. My employer sees the benefit of using the sick days as short term disability. It's far cheaper than buying short term disability insurance. I'm not surprised that the Conservatives have an issue with it, given their piss poor money management skills. They (and their supporters) have trouble understanding these simple concepts. With any luck, the Cons will bring Preston Manning back and we can have a truly conservative party once again.

Nope- wrong again- Public service unions have wages & benefits that are higher than the public sector. It is all going to change.
Union Rep seems to be right on the money or are you just tagging all my replies.

 

[Cannuck]

Nope- wrong again- Public service unions have wages & benefits that are higher than the public sector.

Nope. I made more in the private sector.

 

[Goober]

Not for long... hehehehe



There is no employer obligation to provide any insurance other than WCB... Expect that one to be clawed back as well



Morning Goobs... Golfing later today?

Not a golfer. Have a better use for my time. Tried it liked it- but to many fanatics in the game- as we can see on the forum.

Nope. I made more in the private sector.

Why leave?

 

[Cannuck]

Why leave?

The private sector? I took my current job. This may come a shock to you but money isn't the only motivator with some people.

 

[Goober]

If you're going to be a **** about this, then you can talk to someone else. I asked a question, YOU insulted by implying that I was trolling. So get off your fu cking high horse dipshyte. You don't like insults, then don't start em. Remember, you don't have Bear here to protect your skinny a$$.

Well you do troll - you do curse, swear and insult a large number of members.
And did Bear ask you to be nice?

The private sector? I took my current job. This may come a shock to you but money isn't the only motivator with some people.

What did you do in the private sector and what do you do now?

 

[captain morgan]

For long.... heheheheh

You just keep telling yourself that.

In the meantime, it might be an idea to put on your Ruby Red Shoes, click the heels together 3 times and say 'There's no place like home; There's no place like home....."

Who said they were obligated? They do it because they understand the benefits of giving employees short term disability. BTW, that's the same reason any employer gives any benefits to their employees. Clearly you didn't have a decent enough job to get benefits and are bitter about it. Like I said before, jealousy is such a petty and childish emotion.

That's right, there is no obligation and there is the distinct possibility that the gvt may do the math here and come to the realization that the disability program is only succeeding in encouraging the public sector to miss more than 2.5 times more in sick days than the private sector.

Might as well as save the dollars on insurance premiums and not pay people for not showing up to work.... It's kind of a 2-way win for the taxpayer.

 

[Cannuck]

What did you do in the private sector and what do you do now?

Water and wastewater

 

[Goober]

Water and wastewater

So you would be in Public Works.

 

[Cannuck]

That's right, there is no obligation and there is the distinct possibility that the gvt may do the math here and come to the realization that the disability program is only succeeding in encouraging the public sector to miss more than 2.5 times more in sick days than the private sector.

That's a distinct possibility given the Conservative government's poor math skills. I'm sure management (you know, the ones that actually negotiate the contracts) will set them straight.

So you would be in Public Works.

Now, yes. Before, no.

 

[captain morgan]

That's a distinct possibility given the Conservative government's poor math skills. I'm sure management (you know, the ones that actually negotiate the contracts) will set them straight.

Are you blaming the CoC for the massive differential in sick days between the private and public sectors?

 

[Cannuck]

Are you blaming the CoC for the massive differential in sick days between the private and public sectors?

No, poor money management. The difference in sick days is another issue. As has been explained, it could very well be that short term disability and sick days are getting lumped together. I'd leave it up to management to decide if it is a problem or not.

 

[captain morgan]

No, poor money management. The difference in sick days is another issue. As has been explained, it could very well be that short term disability and sick days are getting lumped together. I'd leave it up to management to decide if it is a problem or not.

Well, we are talking about the significant difference in sick days between the 2 sectors here.

Apparently, the theory that providing short term disability achieves nothing more than observing a 2.5 times increase in the rate of sick days taken... And apparently, management HAS determined that it is a problem

The math speaks for itself here.

 

[Cannuck]

Apparently, the theory that providing short term disability achieves nothing more than observing a 2.5 times increase in the rate of sick days taken... And apparently, management HAS determined that it is a problem

No, the Conservative Party has determined that it is a problem. Well...actually they haven't. What they have determined is that making it an issue may make some folks forget how badly they are mismanaging the books.

BTW, it does achieve more than "observing a 2.5 times increase in the rate of sick days taken". It achieves a savings on short term disability insurance. That is something Tories and their supporters are forgetting but, as already said, Conservatives are not that good when it comes to money matters.

 

[captain morgan]

No, the Conservative Party has determined that it is a problem. Well...actually they haven't. What they have determined is that making it an issue may make some folks forget how badly they are mismanaging the books.

They have made the determination, quite well actually.

But that's besides the point now. The decision has been made to do something about it and that ought to have a positive impact on the savings for taxpayers.

BTW, it does achieve more than "observing a 2.5 times increase in the rate of sick days taken". It achieves a savings on short term disability insurance. That is something Tories and their supporters are forgetting but, as already said, Conservatives are not that good when it comes to money matters.

You didn't read what I wrote. They can save on 2 fronts by not offering short term disability at all and they also won't be paying out of pocket for 2.5 times the amount of lost productivity as the private sector. That money will basically come directly out of the pocket of the union members

Talk to your union and see if they will buy the insurance for you... All of those union dues should really be applied to something

 

[Cannuck]

They have made the determination, quite well actually.

I doubt it. When it comes to public finances, the Tories seem to be quite befuddled.

But that's besides the point now. The decision has been made to do something about it and that ought to have a positive impact on the savings for taxpayers.

Actually, it hasn't. Politician flap their gums all the time.

You didn't read what I wrote. They can save on 2 fronts by not offering short term disability at all and they also won't be paying out of pocket for 2.5 times the amount of lost productivity as the private sector. That money will basically come directly out of the pocket of the union members.

Sure they could. I'm sure it would make crybabies like you happy.

Talk to your union and see if they will buy the insurance for you... All of those union dues should really be applied to something

Why would the union do that when the em[ployer is quite willing to do it.

Do you think STDI or sick leave is only given to union people or public servants?