Critics angered by new law making it illegal to wear a mask at unlawful protests

[Zipperfish]

Doesnt really bother me. It seems reasonable. If you're going out to protest something you shouldnt be afraid of revealing who you are.

I don't think that follows at all. If you are a protestor, sometimes it makes good sense to be afraid. Think of early union organizers. Think of Kent State. Think of Biko and Mandela in South Africa. Think of anti-Muslim marchers in England.

This law will not stand.

 

[L Gilbert]

It's ALL about profiling and identifying protesters. Nothing more, nothing less.

Your opinion. I think there's a bit more to it than that. Like making it easier to identify troublemaking protestors.

We all know that profiling is legit and the best way to prevent crime.

Depends on the kind of profiling. Psychological profiling is quite handy in some circumstances, for instance. Employers use it for interviews, applications, etc., for instance.

 

[petros]

Troublemakers? Are ALL protests and protesters out to cause trouble? What you just did was profile protesters as trouble makers. Is profiling accurate?

Do you willingly give a job interviewer that info when requested?

 

[Goober]

Your opinion. I think there's a bit more to it than that. Like making it easier to identify troublemaking protestors.

Depends on the kind of profiling. Psychological profiling is quite handy in some circumstances, for instance. Employers use it for interviews, applications, etc., for instance.

Israel uses profiling and it works.

 

[L Gilbert]

Troublemakers? Are ALL protests and protesters out to cause trouble?

Nope.

What you just did was profile protesters as trouble makers.

According to your spin, perhaps. But I pinpointed troublemaking protestors, not protestors in general. There's a big diff to those who pay enough attention that they can actually comprehend what was posted. Specifically , I said, "Like making it easier to identify troublemaking protestors."

Is profiling accurate?

It can be depending on what kind of profiling you are referring to. I think I said that before. You musta missed it.

Do you willingly give a job interviewer that info when requested?

Red Herring. What I would do is irrelevant.

 

[Goober]

Nope. According to your spin, perhaps. But I pinpointed troublemaking protestors, not protestors in general. There's a big diff to those who pay enough attention that they can actually comprehend what was posted. Specifically , I said, "Like making it easier to identify troublemaking protestors."
It can be depending on what kind of profiling you are referring to. I think I said that before. You musta missed it.
Red Herring. What I would do is irrelevant.

If we went thru a number of differing demonstrations over the past decade you can list which ones will or have a high probability of turning violent.
G7- G 20- Montreal- Vancouver losing the Stanley Cup, parades of White Supremacists- Those are always worth some to and fro between the attendees and the Police.

 

[Nuggler]

""Critics angered by new law making it illegal to wear a mask at unlawful protests""

Mehhhhhh; if you're at an unlawful protest, youse takes yer chances, as per the good ol G20, when the conbots authorized cops to beat the shlt out of masked and unmasked protesters, arrest many and several, and allow the ninja clothed agent provocateurs to escape unscathed.

No, we have to just sit back, relax, and give Canada to the Cons and the 1%.

If we ever got really serious about stuff, most cops would shlt their pants when the rocks (big ones) started flying.

just sayin....................don't con-done (pardon the pun) that there violence whatsoever.

 

[Zipperfish]

Israel uses profiling and it works.

Yers but Israel is a crappy place to live. Not sure we should be looking to them for ideas.

 

[taxslave]

Why do today's protesters wear masks when at one time they were glad to be upfront and show their faces?

What has changed?

At one time we had real issues to protest and were proud to do so. Now the rent a riot crowd sees protests as a venue for destruction because they do not have a message.

 

[petros]

Israel uses profiling and it works.

Does it?

 

[Cannuck]

We should all be able to engage in unlawful activities and be able to hide our identities while doing so. Brilliant.
I bet criminals everywhere who read what these critics are saying are all for being able to hide their faces when committing crimes.

Committing a crime is by definition criminal behavior. I understand folks like you believe the simple act of protesting should be a crime. Thankfully sufficient numbers of people disagree with you.

 

[petros]

At one time we had real issues to protest and were proud to do so. Now the rent a riot crowd sees protests as a venue for destruction because they do not have a message.

So why do the honest, non-violent, non-destructive people hide their faces too?

 

[Cannuck]

While the Montreal bylaw affected only protests in that city, Bill C-309 alters the Criminal Code, which applies to all Canadians, and would allow police to pre-emptively arrest protesters if they wore facial coverings.

Uh-huh! Why would the police want to arrest protesters before they have done anything wrong?

 

[Goober]

Committing a crime is by definition criminal behavior. I understand folks like you believe the simple act of protesting should be a crime. Thankfully sufficient numbers of people disagree with you.

I see you are using that selective dictionary of yours. Not what he stated. Try to engage in a discussion of facts- not your personal agenda.

 

[petros]

Red Herring. What I would do is irrelevant.

No it isn't irrelevant. Willingly and without permission are night and day.

 

[Goober]

Uh-huh! Why would the police want to arrest protesters before they have done anything wrong?

When a crowd is beginning to reach the point of beyond control - there are safety factors involved as well- That is a legitimate action on the part of the Police. But you have a hate on for Police.

I see you are using that selective dictionary of yours. Not what he stated. Try to engage in a discussion of facts- not your personal agenda.

Quite a rebuttal-

 

[Cannuck]

When a crowd is beginning to reach the point of beyond control - there are safety factors involved as well- That is a legitimate action on the part of the Police. But you have a hate on for Police.

I should be arrested because I'm in a large crowd? Thanks for the input.

 

[Goober]

Committing a crime is by definition criminal behavior. I understand folks like you believe the simple act of protesting should be a crime. Thankfully sufficient numbers of people disagree with you.

oopps - wrong button

 

[taxslave]

So why do the honest, non-violent, non-destructive people hide their faces too?

Embarrassment?

 

[Goober]

When a crowd is beginning to reach the point of beyond control - there are safety factors involved as well- That is a legitimate action on the part of the Police. But you have a hate on for Police.



Quite a rebuttal-

Again- Quite the rebuttal-

I should be arrested because I'm in a large crowd? Thanks for the input.

No- I think you should get professional help though.