Bill Ayers Defends Weather Underground Bombings...

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Since you ask, Boomer, bad Catholic sex jokes are a dime a thousand. If they aren't 'sharp', then all you are doing is poking tasteless & cruel jest at another person's belief pattern..
 

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What, a bunch of LCD crazed kids charging men with guns.. I would have shot.

Well there you go. Maybe you should park your rigtheous anger over your allegations of murder against others then. Clearly, you don't have much of an ethical issue with it.
 

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Well there you go. Maybe you should park your rigtheous anger over your allegations of murder against others then. Clearly, you don't have much of an ethical issue with it.

BTW, what happen to the soldiers who shot the students?

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No just an instinct for survival.

Hypothetical -

So you have a gun and lets say 50 kids on Meth charge you right now... what are YOU going to do?

You're wearing a military or Police uniform which to them is the enemy..

It either YOU or THEM.

The police/military are the law.. not terrorist.
 

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BTW, what happen to the soldiers who shot the students?

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No just an instinct for survival.

Hypothetical -

So you have a gun and lets say 50 kids on Meth charge you right now... what are YOU going to do?

You're wearing a military or Police uniform which to them is the enemy..

It either YOU or THEM.

The police/military are the law.. not terrorist.
You are sounding like one of those "my country right or wrong" kinda guys. They don't impress me much.
 

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He just sounds wacko to me. Meth wasn't cmmon in the 60s. I think he meant LSD, not LCD. It's unlikely that many of them would have been on LSD anyways, and it's not particularly assocaited with violence anyway. One of eh kids killed was a members of the Reserves and was walking between classes at the time he was shot. Ayers, to my knowledge, has never been deirectly implicated in the murder of this cop.

It's just what happens when extreme partisan hackery twists your mind to the point where your perception has almost nothing to do with objective reality anymore.
 

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Partisan defense is just as bad ....Non?

What's bad is not recognizing objective reality. In reality, Ayers was never implicated in the murder of the Boston police officer. In reality it is highly unlikely that a ROTC student walking between classes at Kent State was methhead charging the national guard. A healthy, reasoned debate is fine. Making **** up because your mind seethes with anger isn't.
 

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He just sounds wacko to me. Meth wasn't cmmon in the 60s. I think he meant LSD, not LCD. It's unlikely that many of them would have been on LSD anyways, and it's not particularly assocaited with violence anyway. One of eh kids killed was a members of the Reserves and was walking between classes at the time he was shot. Ayers, to my knowledge, has never been deirectly implicated in the murder of this cop.

Wacko eh? Because I don't follow your weird ideology Zipperhead.




You are trying to justify the actions of 1. a terrorist, Bill Ayers and 2. mob rule of a bunch of students throwing rocks and attacking law enforcement & military.

Yes it is sad, what happen to those students.. however, they are no different to the thugs that riot in the streets of Vancouver breaking windows and setting a blaze to personal property and attacking police..

Send in the military, a group of men who are trained to shoot first and ask questions later and I am sure the same result would occur.

I seriously don't understand how anyone could defend Ayers, an admitted terrorist and murderer. Why don't you start defending the Boston Bombers, I mean it must be societies fault or the USA for occupying their lands or I'm sure you can think of some grand illusion to fulfill your lefty ideology.

He just sounds wacko to me. Meth wasn't cmmon in the 60s. I think he meant LSD, not LCD. It's unlikely that many of them would have been on LSD anyways, and it's not particularly assocaited with violence anyway. One of eh kids killed was a members of the Reserves and was walking between classes at the time he was shot. Ayers, to my knowledge, has never been deirectly implicated in the murder of this cop.

It's just what happens when extreme partisan hackery twists your mind to the point where your perception has almost nothing to do with objective reality anymore.

He admitted to being part of the terrorist group that murdered the cop..

If you are part of a group who commits a crime that involves murder, even though you didn't pull the trigger, you are all charged with murder.
 

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Yes it is sad, what happen to those students.. however, they are no different to the thugs that riot in the streets of Vancouver breaking windows and setting a blaze to personal property.
Some really terrible shooting that day.... It sure didn't demonstrate any firearms control among the Ohio National Guard when people were hit on a campus parking lot - well away from the protestors
 

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Some really terrible shooting that day.... It sure didn't demonstrate any firearms control among the Ohio National Guard when people were hit on a campus parking lot - well away from the protestors

The police are trained for riot control.

Military are trained to kill.. a war setting.. not sure why the State sent in the military against people protesting a war anyhow. That was not thought out and the result is young lives taken..
 

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The police are trained for riot control.

Military are trained to kill.. a war setting.. not sure why the State sent in the military against people protesting a war anyhow. That was not thought out and the result is young lives taken..
Military (National Guard) became involved when the ROTC centre was set ablaze.
 

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Wacko eh? Because I don't follow your weird ideology Zipperhead.

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Ideology has nothing to do with it. I'm talking observation, not ideology. Based on observation (meth use rare in the 1960s, ROTC student killed walking between classes), I deem it highly unlikely that, as you claim, the students killed were on meth.

You compound your errors in this post making two more fallacious arguments: the first is that the students killed were thugs. This, in spite of the fact that I've already poiinted out that one of the students killed was an ROTC student walking between classes far away fromt he protest. The second is your fallacious claim that "if you are a member of a group who commits a crime that involves murder, even though you didn't pull the trigger, you are all charged with murder." This clearly isn't true because Ayers, in fact, was never charged with murder. If you are talking about the rule of felony murder in the US, it cannot be indefinitely extended the way you claim. There has to be some kind of agency or proximate cause by Ayers; membership in a group would not meet that standard.

To put it bluntly, you're very angry based on a bunch of facts that are not, in fact, facts.

The truth, as anyone with a little wisdom knows, is rarely so black and white as you would claim. Every cop is a criminal / and all the sinners saints.
 

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Based on observation (meth use rare in the 1960s, ROTC student killed walking between classes), I deem it highly unlikely that, as you claim, the police were being attacked by a bunch of kids on meth.

Did I state the Students where on Meth?? No.

Read my posts, earlier I clearly stated the students where in LCD.

I asked you what you would do if a group of 50 people on Meth attacked you and you had a gun.. would you shoot or let them kill you.

It's survival instinct and I think you would shoot.

The military (National Guard Reserves) where nothing more than kids.. reservist trained to fight overseas, scared young kids and shot into a crowd in a panic.

You insinuated I claimed the students where on Meth.. and went off on a rant.
 

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I asked you what you would do if a group of 50 people on Meth attacked you and you had a gun.. would you shoot or let them kill you.

It's survival instinct and I think you would shoot.

The military (National Guard Reserves) where nothing more than kids.. reservist trained to fight overseas, scared young kids and shot into a crowd in a panic.

You insinuated I claimed the students where on Meth.. and went off on a rant.
They look protected to me...gas masks etc.