Baird to Palestinians, You’ll face ‘consequences’

[CDNBear]

In case anyone takes CB's comments about me seriously....

As they should, they're all supportable, with your own words no less, lol.

CB's favorite lie about me is to claim that since I oppose Israeli war criminals and mass murderers, that I must support Palestinian war criminals and mass murderers... he makes this accusation by insinuations about my "terrorist buddies"... even though I've repeatedly condemned Palestinian war criminals and mass murderers.

I don't say you support Palestinian war criminals, stop lying.

You yourself call Abbas and the PA a bunch of thugs and mercenaries. And you post their lies, support their lies, defend their lies, and with such ferocity, that they must be your buddies.

Furthermore, Hamas is a list terrorist organization, you have stated time and time again, with equal ferocity that they are duly elected. And defended how they took power against Abbas.

That proves CB is a bold faced liar.

Obviously it doesn't, lol.

What "Never Again" means to me is that people must never again be silent in the face of injustice and oppression. Silence equals tacit support. If more people had spoken out against the Nazis before they took power, WW II and all the related Nazi atrocities could have been avoided.

I agree. How many times have you stated Canada should remain neutral?

Do you understand what that says about your position?

You either believe in fundamental human rights for everyone, or you don't truly believe in fundamental human rights.

True. And as we have seen, you have a double standard and a poor understanding of human rights and who is responsible to defend or protect them.

You constantly claim the Israel is responsible for Palestinian human rights, when in fact their own gov't is. Equally idiotic, you blame Israel for Hamas and PA abuses.

I'm sure that will be ignored, as per your usual MO.

 

[earth_as_one]

CB isn't just a liar. He is an ignorant liar.

Hamas did win the last Palestinian election by an overwhelming majority:
Palestinian legislative election, 2006 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They never took power because the US and Israel armed Abbas's Thugs:
The Gaza Bombshell | Vanity Fair

Also it appears that Canadian taxpayers also helped fund Abba's violent power grab under the guise of "Palestinian Aid"... which Baird has threatened to cut because Abbas isn't kowtowing to his Israeli masters. I hope Baird stops funneling Canadian taxpayer money to Abbas's mercenaries.... Palestinians don't need that sort of "aid".

 

[CDNBear]

CB isn't just a liar. He is an ignorant liar.

We've already established that you have no credibility, and of course these pages are filled with me proving your lies with actual facts, and your own words.

So your claims, as usual, have no merit.

Hamas did win the last Palestinian election by an overwhelming majority:
Palestinian legislative election, 2006 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They never took power because the US and Israel armed Abbas's Thugs:
The Gaza Bombshell | Vanity Fair

Not in question EAO. Maybe you aren't a liar and just can't read, or maybe you're just simply an ignorant troll.

Which is it?

We'd all like to know.

Personally, I think you're just morally bankrupt and need to dishonestly distract and distort what people say to swing the conversation to something you think you can support, to maintain and defend your proven bigotry towards Jews.

Like I said earlier, I'm here all day, and we're all aware of your MO.

 

[Sal]

I don't take accusations either of you make regarding each other as anything more than forum banter you both engage in with each other in order to amuse yourselves. I find valid points from each of you in various threads. When the two of you start going at each other I just read around it.

Happy fighting.

 

[CDNBear]

I don't take accusations either of you make regarding each other as anything more than forum banter you both engage in with each other in order to amuse yourselves. I find valid points from each of you in various threads. When the two of you start going at each other I just read around it.

Happy fighting.

Actually, although I do find great amusement in cutting to the chase and showing what EAO truly is, I do it as a public service more so.

people need to know that he really doesn't care about Palestinians, he just hates Jews. He uses Palestinians to support and spread that hate.

 

[Sal]

Actually, although I do find great amusement in cutting to the chase and showing what EAO truly is, I do it as a public service more so.

people need to know that he really doesn't care about Palestinians, he just hates Jews. He uses Palestinians to support and spread that hate.

those public service messages on TV are boring too. but thanks for keeping my educational opportunities at the forefront

now back to our regularly scheduled broadcasts

you guys have a lot of energy that's fer sure...lol

 

[CDNBear]

those public service messages on TV are boring too.

I know, but sometimes a necessary evil.

now back to our regularly scheduled broadcasts

Thanks... ;-)

you guys have a lot of energy that's fer sure...lol

I just like to take a break from editing pics and vids from the Stompin' Tom memorial, now and then. And EAO is always good for distraction.

 

[Sal]

I know you guys likely get all excited just seeing the other has posted.

AND it's a slow week. I'm cleaning my office how bad is that. *sigh*

 

[CDNBear]

I know you guys likely get all excited just seeing the other has posted.

Oh I most certainly do.

I love it when EAO posts his lies, propaganda and idiocy. Everyone of his posts tears another part of his facade away.

 

[DaSleeper]

Oh I most certainly do.

I love it when EAO posts his lies, propaganda and idiocy. Everyone of his posts tears another part of his facade away.

They say that people hate who their parents hated....some kind of transference...

Likely one or more of your ancestors converted.

My grandmother didn't know she was Jewish and didn't like Jews too.

 

[earth_as_one]

Unlike CB, I don't defend or try to obfuscate war crimes. I have no problem condemning war crimes and war criminals, regardless of who commits them.

CB on the other hand supports mass murderers when he tries to obfuscate their crimes: Example:

CB's statement: "There's more than enough evidence to call into question the Palestinian account at Qana."

Reality: The UN sent in experts to examine the evidence. They concluded that the most likely explanation based on the evidence is that Israeli forces deliberately killed 108 civilians and injured 116 others taking refuge in a bomb shelter. They found no evidence supporting Israeli claims that the shelling of this compound was due to an error.
UN Secretary General Report S/1996/337 - 7 May 1996

Part of the damning evidence was a video taken by a witness. But the crater impacts from Israeli shells provided the most damning evidence that the Israel version of events was a complete fabrication and supported accuracy of eye witness testimony and the video.

The mass murderering war criminal responsible for this slaughter of innocents is one of the people the Harper government unshakably supports.

Unlike PM Harper and CB, I don't support mass murderers. I support them being charged with their crimes and being held accountable.

George Orwell's observations regarding a nationalist's indifference to reality applies to those who claim they support universal human rights and freedoms, yet support what Israel does to Palestinians:

Indifference to Reality.
All nationalists have the power of not seeing resemblances between similar sets of facts. A British Tory will defend self-determination in Europe and oppose it in India with no feeling of inconsistency. Actions are held to be good or bad, not on their own merits, but according to who does them, and there is almost no kind of outrage — torture, the use of hostages, forced labour, mass deportations, imprisonment without trial, forgery, assassination, the bombing of civilians — which does not change its moral colour when it is committed by ‘our’ side...
George Orwell: Notes on Nationalism

 

[CDNBear]

Unlike CB, I don't defend or try to obfuscate war crimes.

LOL, liar. You do it all the time.

One particularly memorable one was when you confronted with Hamas confiscating humanitarian aid, lol.

I have no problem condemning war crimes and war criminals, regardless of who commits them.

Liar, yes you do, you try and make excuses for it all the time.

My fave is "Israel started it", lol.

CB on the other hand supports mass murderers when he tries to obfuscate their crimes: "There's more than enough evidence to call into question the Palestinian account at Qana."

LOL, because there is.

And if you weren't so busy trying to find something, anything, to distort into something you could fling at me, you wouldn't have embarrassed yourself by making it obvious you don't understand what I said, lol.

Unlike PM Harper and CB, I don't support mass murderers.

My my, you really are getting desperate aren't you, lol.

Indifference to Reality.

LMAO!!! You aren't indifferent to reality, you ignore it outright!

 

[earth_as_one]

I don't take accusations either of you make regarding each other as anything more than forum banter you both engage in with each other in order to amuse yourselves. I find valid points from each of you in various threads. When the two of you start going at each other I just read around it.

Happy fighting.

I used to ignore CB stalking me from thread to thread to label me an antisemitic Nazi. I thought no one could be so stupid as to let someone else define their opinion. But then i realized from the posts of others that CB's slanders have a cumulative effect. I complained to the mods about CB's stalking behavior and then he was banned.

So now I state for the record what I believe, so people can base their opinion of me on what I write, rather than what trolls like CB write about me.

BTW, I've never been banned from this forum, while CB has be banned repeatedly. CB is one of the reasons why the mods felt is was necessary to post this warning:
Off-limits: Personal attacks, cursing, anything 18+, adult-themed comments.

I have no ill will against anyone who wants to live in peace, commits no war crimes or crimes against humanity. I don't hate Jews, Israelis or even members of the IDF. On the contrary, I fully support the majority of Jews, Israelis and members of the IDF who believe in universal human rights, freedom and justice. I support holding individuals in these groups, who have committed war crimes and crimes against humanity, accountable for their actions.

I desire universal freedom and justice for everyone and you'll never find a statement supporting CB's allegation that I support terror or violence directed at civilians of any race, religion or nationality (or lack of nationality in the case of millions of Palestinians victims of Zionist ethnic cleansing)

 

[Sal]

You both argue well and give great opinions on various topics.

 

[CDNBear]

I used to ignore CB stalking me from thread to thread to label me an antisemitic Nazi. I thought no one could be so stupid as to let someone else define their opinion. But then i realized from the posts of others that CB's slanders have a cumulative effect. I complained to the mods about CB's stalking behavior and then he was banned.

There you go lying again.

You've already been told I have never been banned for stalking or anything to do with you.

You simply prove me right, with evey posts, lol.

So now I state for the record what I believe, so people can base their opinion of me on what I write, rather than what trolls like CB write about me.

What you state, isn't supported by what you post.

Where as my observations, are supported by your own words.

I have no ill will against anyone who wants to live in peace, commits no war crimes or crimes against humanity. I don't hate Jews, Israelis or even members of the IDF. On the contrary, I fully support the majority of Jews, Israelis and members of the IDF who believe in universal human rights, freedom and justice. I support holding individuals in these groups, who have committed war crimes and crimes against humanity, accountable for their actions.

LOL.

I desire universal freedom and justice for everyone and you'll never find a statement supporting CB's allegation that I support terror or violence directed at civilians of any race, religion or nationality (or lack of nationality in the case of millions of Palestinians victims of Zionist ethnic cleansing)

Of course you don't come right out and say it. You're to cowardly.

You post lies, Nazi-esque propaganda, and need nothing more than simple anecdotal claims to post, to forward your campaign of hate.

I've proven it many many times.

No one here busy your claims anymore.

Your facade is gone.

You both argue well and give great opinions on various topics.

I disagree. EAO posts disproved nonsense, propaganda, and outright lies, constantly.

It's been exampled ad nauseum.

But I'll admit that on other topics, he isn't as bogged down by his lack of objectivity and critical thinking.

But that's the problem with hate. It really gets in the way of ones ability to be rational, as EAO has readily been a fine example of.

 

[gerryh]

BTW, I've never been banned from this forum, while CB has be banned repeatedly. CB is one of the reasons why the mods felt is was necessary to post this warning:
Off-limits: Personal attacks, cursing, anything 18+, adult-themed comments.

You lying piece of shyte.

 

[earth_as_one]

Yet another person who has been banned from this forum... Can anyone guess why based on his post?

Also I never claimed CB was banned for stalking me. I claimed he was banned shortly after I complained to the mods about CB's stalking behavior. Only the Mods and CB know for certain why CB was banned that time, or any of the other times CB has been banned.

While we are on the topic, How many times have you guys been banned over the years gerryh and CB?

My total so far is "Zero", "Nada", "Never" and the reason why is that I try to be polite and respectful. I also try to follow forum rules and obey moderator warnings....

 

[lone wolf]

The Muddled East is all about people taking the truth and twisting it to suit their particular agenda then Be-essing the muddled to believe - just like gets done in here

 

[CDNBear]

Yet another person who has been banned from this forum... Can anyone guess why based on his post?

Funny, after being thoroughly exposed for what you really are. You lame and weakly go for a smear based on bannings.

Tooooo funny. EAO is definitely grasping at straws again, lol.

The last time you tried that, a Mod pretty much told you, you were a troll.

He was right, lol.

Also I never claimed CB was banned for stalking me. I claimed he was banned shortly after I complained to the mods about CB's stalking behavior.

No one is missing the implication you made, as cowardly and dishonest as it was, lol.

Only the Mods and CB know for certain why CB was banned that time, or any of the other times CB has been banned.

Actually, the last time you went down this pathetic road, it was all posted.

Unlike you, I'm no coward, lol.

How many times have you guys been banned over the years gerryh and CB?

Three, for me.

But that's only because I'm not a coward, lol.

My total so far is "Zero", "Nada", "Never" and the reason why is that I try to be polite and respectful.

Liar.

I also try to follow forum rules and obey moderator warnings....

Liar, lol.

You lying piece of shyte.

It's all he has left Gh.

He's trying to distract from the destruction of his credibility, by trying to focus on me being banned at some point.

As if it has any merit, lol.

 

[earth_as_one]

The Muddled East is all about people taking the truth and twisting it to suit their particular agenda then Be-essing the muddled to believe - just like gets done in here

This conflict appears muddled because of Orwell's observations regarding "Indifference to Reality", that I referenced above and reference again:

All nationalists have the power of not seeing resemblances between similar sets of facts. A British Tory will defend self-determination in Europe and oppose it in India with no feeling of inconsistency. Actions are held to be good or bad, not on their own merits, but according to who does them, and there is almost no kind of outrage — torture, the use of hostages, forced labour, mass deportations, imprisonment without trial, forgery, assassination, the bombing of civilians — which does not change its moral colour when it is committed by ‘our’ side...
http://orwell.ru/library/essays/nationalism/english/e_nat

Explanations become muddled when news reporters and political leaders who claim to support universal human rights attempt to defend Israel's treatment of Palestinians. They know Israel is responsible for war crimes and crimes against humanity... but speaking out against them would end their careers. So they employ Orwellian double speak to baffle the masses.

But if you come at this conflict from the viewpoint that everyone is entitled to freedom and justice... it becomes pretty clear what our news reporters and political leaders truly believe:

US Alone in Blocking UN Resolution Opposing Israeli Settlements -- News from Antiwar.com

Barack Obama tells Mahmoud Abbas US will veto Palestinian statehood bid - Telegraph

Canada: Israel's "Unshakable" Supporter - Pacific Free Press | Pacific Free Press

Since Israel's creation over 60 years ago, millions of Palestinians have been ethnically cleansed off land Zionists believe God gave to Jews and as a result have suffered decades of war, injustice and oppression.

Judge a tree by the fruit that it bears....