Despite Supreme Court hate speech ruling, anti-gay activist plans to continue pamphle

[Goober]

I bet I know as much about my kids as LG did about his.

LG has always come off as above average, it wouldn't surprise me that he was an attentive and involved parent.

To answer your question outright, I can't say.

I agree and I would say it applies to LG and you along with your spouses.

In my limited knowledge many parents know diddly squat about what they kids are up to, or where their head is at.

Now is this Hate Speech?
In the unanimous ruling, it also upheld in part a human rights tribunal ruling against Whatcott, who distributed flyers in Regina and Saskatoon in 2001 and 2002 calling homosexuals "sodomites" and equating them with child abusers

 

[L Gilbert]

Bear - How many parents actually really know their kids. Say ages 12-16-

You know parents ages 12 to 16?

 

[Goober]

You know parents ages 12 to 16?

Funyy Ah so funny.

 

[SLM]

You know parents ages 12 to 16?

Lol. Smartass!

But hey could be.

 

[L Gilbert]

I bet I know as much about my kids as LG did about his.

Right on. ^5

LG has always come off as above average, it wouldn't surprise me that he was an attentive and involved parent.

I was. I thought (and still do) they're they coolest critters on the planet.

To answer your question outright, I can't say.

Ditto.I doubt it's quantifiable.

Funyy Ah so funny.

Thank you.

Lol. Smartass!

But hey could be.

certainly. Wifey was 15.

 

[CDNBear]

Nope. But, what does that have to do with 5P?

He's the coolest gay liberal dude I know.

How? Discussing things in a PM is a whole different ballgame than spreading pamphlets all over a province.

I know.

Which is why whenever I'm asked about why I support free speech so adamantly, one of my many reason is, to keep the details in the light.

They can fester in the dark.

You speekee funny Ingleesh. I no understandee. Rereading eet won't help.

LOL, in retrospect, I edited that before you replied.

Fine then.

I knew you would be open to reason.

Oh, c'mon gimme a clue what I missed.

See my reply to your PM suggestion.

I said Whatcott was promoting discimination against homosexuals.

He was? I read what you posted, he attacked a special interest groups infiltration of school curriculum.

Quite frankly I find it just as bad when the teachers union does that.

Is that discrimination against unions too?

But I wouldn't put it past him to be above directly discriminating against them, as well.

Probably, but that's a whole other subject.

 

[L Gilbert]

In my limited knowledge many parents know diddly squat about what they kids are up to, or where their head is at.

Didn't need to (still don't). But but the time they were teens they knew they could talk with either/both of us about anything they wished without being degraded, punished, etc.

Now is this Hate Speech?
In the unanimous ruling, it also upheld in part a human rights tribunal ruling against Whatcott, who distributed flyers in Regina and Saskatoon in 2001 and 2002 calling homosexuals "sodomites" and equating them with child abusers

Sure seems like promoting hatred and discrimination to me.

 

[Goober]

Didn't need to (still don't). But but the time they were teens they knew they could talk with either/both of us about anything they wished without being degraded, punished, etc.

Sure seems like promoting hatred and discrimination to me.

Yes- Hate Speech towards an identifiable group who have been discriminated against for a few thousand years. The compared to a low form of human life, child abusers.

 

[L Gilbert]

He's the coolest gay liberal dude I know.

Oh. See, I had no idea the dude is a liberal. Scary.

I know.

Which is why whenever I'm asked about why I support free speech so adamantly, one of my many reason is, to keep the details in the light.

They can fester in the dark.

I'm with you on the free speech thing, but not at the cost of other rights.

LOL, in retrospect, I edited that before you replied.

lol cheater.

He was? I read what you posted, he attacked a special interest groups infiltration of school curriculum.

Yeah, I read what I found and posted and didn't see much other than the dude expressing his opinion. It's some of the stuff of his that's said by the courts and whatnot that gives me suspicions about the guy's character.

Quite frankly I find it just as bad when the teachers union does that.

Ditto.

Is that discrimination against unions too?

Are you using biblical references, iffy info, etc. to spur other people to hate unions?

Probably, but that's a whole other subject.

yeah.

Again, they guy was equating homosexuals with child molesters to the public. Two entirely different "types" of people. It's no different than one of us spreading crap around that Jews, gypsies, Martians, and Manitobans are vermin.

 

[CDNBear]

Now is this Hate Speech?

No.

Oh. See, I had no idea the dude is a liberal. Scary.

I'm with you on the free speech thing, but not at the cost of other rights.

How were homosexuals rights infringed?

Yeah, I read what I found and posted and didn't see much other than the dude expressing his opinion. It's some of the stuff of his that's said by the courts and whatnot that gives me suspicions about the guy's character.

No doubt. I think he's a goon.

But I have to support his right to speak if I'm going to champion mine and anyone else I may agree with.

My son is going through something similar at school with the banning of the confederate flag.

Are you using biblical references, iffy info, etc. to spur other people to hate unions?

I'm sure if looked hard enough and squinted, I could come up with something as ridiculous as 'homosexuality is an abomination onto god', to use against unions, but they're doing a great job themselves.

What's wrong with hate anyways?

I hate it when the pizza's stuck to the top of the box because the asshat that cut it didn't put a little riser in it. Equally, I hate it when my pizza arrives and it's slung to one side of the box because the delivery kid does mach 9 around corners.

But I don't feel the need to ban pizza, delivery kids or pizza store staff.

Again, they guy was equating homosexuals with child molesters to the public.

I equate EAO to terrorists and ME neo Nazis.

Two entirely different "types" of people.

How can we argue that if you may be brought before a tribunal?

It's no different than one of us spreading crap around that Jews, gypsies, Martians, and Manitobans are vermin.

I don't think what EAO does is hate speech. I think he's just a run of the mill bigot.

Just like Whatnott.

 

[gerryh]

and there we have it ladies and gentlemen. A prime example of Bear being frustratingly obtuse. Hope you all had fun.

 

[Goober]

No.

Just like Whatnott.

What would he have to state to reach the level of Hate Speech. Or do you subscribe to the US version of Free Speech?

 

[L Gilbert]

How were homosexuals rights infringed?

They hadn't been .... yet. That's the thing about the hate-speech crap, though. Whatcott was promoting discrimination against homosexuals. People have a right not to be discriminated against.

No doubt. I think he's a goon.

But I have to support his right to speak if I'm going to champion mine and anyone else I may agree with.

Yeah. IMO, he can spew whatever he wants as long as it doesn't bring negative effects onto homosexuals.

My son is going through something similar at school with the banning of the confederate flag.

Really? Why?

What's wrong with hate anyways?

I think it depends upon what causes the hatred. Um, besides the fact that it is a pretty strong emotion and sometimes overrides good sense, I mean.

I hate it when the pizza's stuck to the top of the box because the asshat that cut it didn't put a little riser in it. Equally, I hate it when my pizza arrives and it's slung to one side of the box because the delivery kid does mach 9 around corners.

Jeez. I just get annoyed and use a different pizzaria.

But I don't feel the need to ban pizza, delivery kids or pizza store staff.

hhmm That would depend with me. Liberals annoy me these days. Good thing I don't ask what pizzaria staff political affiliations are.

I equate EAO to terrorists and ME neo Nazis.
How can we argue that if you may be brought before a tribunal?

EAO ain't a group that I'm aware of, just an individual.

I don't think what EAO does is hate speech. I think he's just a run of the mill bigot.

Could be.

Just like Whatnott.

I have no doubt, he's that, too.

 

[DaSleeper]

They hadn't been .... yet. That's the thing about the hate-speech crap, though. Whatcott was promoting discrimination against homosexuals. People have a right not to be discriminated against.

Yeah. IMO, he can spew whatever he wants as long as it doesn't bring negative effects onto homosexuals.

If a homosexxual can prove that the guy's fliers lost him a job or barred his entrance to a club or building....he should be paid compensation or Whatcott thrown in jail...how do you receive compensation for hurt feelings?

hhmm That would depend with me. Liberals annoy me these days. Good thing I don't ask what pizzaria staff political affiliations are.

My good friend is NDP.....which is worse..... and we meet for coffee every couple of days.....which reminds me...I gotta get going:lol:

EAO ain't a group that I'm aware of, just an individual.
.

You mean that there is no such group as Joo haters???;-)

 

[Goober]

If a homosexxual can prove that the guy's fliers lost him a job or barred his entrance to a club or building....he should be paid compensation or Whatcott thrown in jail...how do you receive compensation for hurt feelings?

Why should that be required?

Former teacher Jim Keegstra fined for promoting hatred against Jews. | Calgary Herald

 

[DaSleeper]

Why should that be required?

Former teacher Jim Keegstra fined for promoting hatred against Jews. | Calgary Herald

You don't see the difference between teaching/ attempting to indoctrinate students.....and... passing out fliers and ranting on street corners????
That analogy wouldn't float in the dead sea;-)

 

[karrie]

Because they are unpopular speech, and that is the only speech that NEEDS protection.

Because disagreeing with the law is the essence of free speech.

Because denying people the right to engage in "public propaganda campaigns......... aiming to strip charter rights from law abiding citizens" actually IS stripping Charter rights from law-abiding citizens.

Choosing self-esteem over freedom of speech | Full Comment | National Post

I never DREAMED the Court was stacked with such a group of ****ing morons.

I should have known better.

The problem is that he's not simply attempting to change the law. He shouldn't have to stop talking to the government about his views. He shouldn't have to stop freely associating with others who share his views. He shouldn't have to stop speaking his views. I just think he should be prevented from publicly evangelizing and attempting to coerce people into stripping gays of their rights. Just like I don't think atheists should be able to stuff my mail box with propaganda trying to have me stripped of freedom of religion, or anyone should be able to paper the neighbourhood with fliers pushing to have my black neighbours deported.

The important aspect of free speech is freedom to access the government with your views, and freedom of association grants you the right to congregate with others who think like you. What I have yet to see in any 'free speech' advocacy, is any reasoning behind forcing the public at large to consume slander, advocating for the removal of their rights.

 

[Goober]

You don't see the difference between teaching/ attempting to indoctrinate students.....and... passing out fliers and ranting on street corners????
That analogy wouldn't float in the dead sea;-)

If a homosexxual can prove that the guy's fliers lost him a job or barred his entrance to a club or building....he should be paid compensation or Whatcott thrown in jail...how do you receive compensation for hurt feelings?


My good friend is NDP.....which is worse..... and we meet for coffee every couple of days.....which reminds me...I gotta get going:lol:

You mean that there is no such group as Joo haters???;-)

The point was hatred towards an identifiable group. The Police did not need a Jew to lay a charge. That was part of your earlier point.

 

[DaSleeper]

The CHRC , when It was started was a very noble enterprise, but it quickly turned into a boondoggle, a platform for the politically correct to push their agenda on the taxpayer's dime and a waste of money if the supreme court has to make a final decision....just an end run around sensible law.

The point was hatred towards an identifiable group. The Police did not need a Jew to lay a charge. That was part of your earlier point.

Thank you!
Political correctness police is not needed/ CHRC....just like we don't need a language police in La Belle Province.

 

[Goober]

Thank you!
Political correctness police is not needed/ CHRC....just like we don't need a language police in La Belle Province.

This nutcase was not preaching Gospel by equating Homosexuals to Child Abusers.
He could have quoted Gospel, he could have made his point in any number of ways and been protected under Freedom of Religion.
He chose not to.
In my opinion he targeted a specific group with hatred by what he stated. And he did it on a number of occasions.
No helping idiots now is there.