Christy Clark is in trouble over her ethnic memo.

bill barilko

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JLM

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I think Christy Clark is in trouble in many aspects, #1 possibly being credibility. She's fishing for popularity but she doesn't realize before gaining popularity you need respect. It will be interesting on election day to see just how much of the electorate is just as fickle as she is.
 

Niflmir

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I don't get it Vancouverite, isn't this just what politicians do? Pander to the swing votes in whatever way they can?

Maybe you think she will be unable to do so because of the points JLM makes, but what she is doing is just what every democratic politician does and will continue to do.
 

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I don't get it Vancouverite, isn't this just what politicians do? Pander to the swing votes in whatever way they can?

Maybe you think she will be unable to do so because of the points JLM makes, but what she is doing is just what every democratic politician does and will continue to do.

It's a fine line, Niflmir. But I don't want the NDP to come back, so, if we don't vote for the Liberals, should we vote for the Conservatives?
 

Niflmir

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It's a fine line, Niflmir. But I don't want the NDP to come back, so, if we don't vote for the Liberals, should we vote for the Conservatives?

Strategic voting, really? Vote for the best candidate. If you think they are all unqualified, and believe in the democratic system, cast an empty ballot. If you believe the system to be flawed or undemocratic, do not vote and protest in front of the voting station.

Stand up for something, don't define yourself by the strawman you do not agree with.
 

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Strategic voting, really? Vote for the best candidate. If you think they are all unqualified, and believe in the democratic system, cast an empty ballot. If you believe the system to be flawed or undemocratic, do not vote and protest in front of the voting station.

Stand up for something, don't define yourself by the strawman you do not agree with.

Well said. I've never in my life voted strategically. I've either voted for the best candidate or cast an emplty ballot (I'd even considered writing in the name of a good candidate who's not on the ballot).

Strategic voting is part of the problem. All it leads to is the second-worst party winning at every election whereas if we all voted our conscience, maybe the second-best might win, which would still be a big step forward.
 

damngrumpy

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This is much more than a memo, and pandering for votes. This time the Clarke Government
was preparing to use tax payer money to influence immigrants in addition they were using
Ministry Staff on Government time to do that business, and that is not only improper but if true
illegal.
This did not just get hatched by eager young people with an idea, it came out of the Premier's
Office with senior staff in charge of it. In addition the reports that I have seen suggest it went
to the Constituency levels and right into the Party levels itself. In fact some Constituency
Presidents have stepped down already.
There are other problems as well, here in Kelowna the three MLA's cabinet ministers as well
conducted a meeting in a theatre that holds two hundred fifty to three hundred people. They
were promoting the budget and other concerns, Twelve People showed up this is Kelowna
folks where they could attract a crowd no matter what. At the same time at an NDP Nominating
meeting for the first time, the organizers had to put out more chairs. Christie is in major trouble
and its too late to do much about it. The governments trail of lies has come to the end
 

JLM

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I think in B.C. the best thing we can do on election day is everyone stay home. It's time we sent the message that politics on ALL fronts in B.C. is rotten and corrupt. They all want to give the impression of a "pie in the sky" scenario, but none of the rotten bastards has more access to the wherewithal than anyone else. If you want to find out the true integrity of any party, just ask them if they are willing to change their pension formula to 2% times the number of years served. If we could get rid of all these bastards I'd be willing to serve as a benevolent dictator. Everyone would work and no one would starve. -:)
 

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and the BC electorate will do the same thing they have done since forever. They will vote the liberals out of office rather than voting in the best people for the job. Even if the best person would be an independent.
 

JLM

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and the BC electorate will do the same thing they have done since forever. They will vote the liberals out of office rather than voting in the best people for the job. Even if the best person would be an independent.

You got that right. We have to get rid of this "vote for the party mentality". We should only have to ask one question prior to voting.........."What is the source of the money to fulfill your promises"?
 

damngrumpy

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On a number of occasions recently I have spoken to Dix the leader of the opposition at various
functions. He is not going on a spending spree period. He is going to determine how best to
administer the monies already collected. I understand his is going to change some priorities as to
where money will be spent. I asked him about some ideas for agriculture and his response was
What would that look like and where does the money come from or how does it get redirected to
do what is needed? He did not say oh we will do it this or that, he also explained that programs
have to be thought out on a cost basis, and we have to be aware of costs twenty or more years
down the road.
I actually think Dix does have a plan and its not simply to buy into everything and fix the Province
over night. I have also spoken to Liberal MLAs over the pas few years and they have run out of
ideas. This is a third term government for all intent and purpose and its time to go off and reorganize
themselves. Am I worried about the NDP, no the present government has actually introduced more
of a mess than the NDP ever did and there in lies the problem.
Worse however the Liberals have become devoid of ethics and integrity, and when that happens
a government of any stripe loses its moral authority as has happened here.
 

JLM

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On a number of occasions recently I have spoken to Dix the leader of the opposition at various
functions. He is not going on a spending spree period. He is going to determine how best to
administer the monies already collected. I understand his is going to change some priorities as to
where money will be spent. I asked him about some ideas for agriculture and his response was
What would that look like and where does the money come from or how does it get redirected to
do what is needed? He did not say oh we will do it this or that, he also explained that programs
have to be thought out on a cost basis, and we have to be aware of costs twenty or more years
down the road.
I actually think Dix does have a plan and its not simply to buy into everything and fix the Province
over night. I have also spoken to Liberal MLAs over the pas few years and they have run out of
ideas. This is a third term government for all intent and purpose and its time to go off and reorganize
themselves. Am I worried about the NDP, no the present government has actually introduced more
of a mess than the NDP ever did and there in lies the problem.
Worse however the Liberals have become devoid of ethics and integrity, and when that happens
a government of any stripe loses its moral authority as has happened here.

Don't get fooled by Dix- he's just an opportunist. Perhaps you've seen the scathing ad about Dix on the T.V. That was NOT put there by the Liberals, but by a concerned citizens group.
 

Sal

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I think in B.C. the best thing we can do on election day is everyone stay home. It's time we sent the message that politics on ALL fronts in B.C. is rotten and corrupt.
isn't rotten a synonym for politics, isn't corrupt or able to be corrupted a necessity for someone entering politics... don't idealists get screwed right out of the run... yup. The whole system is rotten to the core.

That's why I hate labels such as libtards, or when people make a person a scapegoat to represent a party. People that are partisan are dangerous. It's a vote based purely on emotion. They vote as if "their" party isn't corrupt.

They all want to give the impression of a "pie in the sky" scenario, but none of the rotten bastards has more access to the wherewithal than anyone else. If you want to find out the true integrity of any party, just ask them if they are willing to change their pension formula to 2% times the number of years served. If we could get rid of all these bastards I'd be willing to serve as a benevolent dictator. Everyone would work and no one would starve. -:)
See above for qualifications... wanting the best for everyone = idealist = screwed. :)
 

taxslave

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On a number of occasions recently I have spoken to Dix the leader of the opposition at various
functions. He is not going on a spending spree period. He is going to determine how best to
administer the monies already collected. I understand his is going to change some priorities as to
where money will be spent. I asked him about some ideas for agriculture and his response was
What would that look like and where does the money come from or how does it get redirected to
do what is needed? He did not say oh we will do it this or that, he also explained that programs
have to be thought out on a cost basis, and we have to be aware of costs twenty or more years
down the road.
I actually think Dix does have a plan and its not simply to buy into everything and fix the Province
over night. I have also spoken to Liberal MLAs over the pas few years and they have run out of
ideas. This is a third term government for all intent and purpose and its time to go off and reorganize
themselves. Am I worried about the NDP, no the present government has actually introduced more
of a mess than the NDP ever did and there in lies the problem.
Worse however the Liberals have become devoid of ethics and integrity, and when that happens
a government of any stripe loses its moral authority as has happened here.

Tricky Dix's plan is much like the one he helped formulate for ol' boondoggle. Give as much money to government unions as possible and destroy the economy cause capitalism is bad for the people. But people in BC have short memories and will probably have to relearn the lesson so rudely taught to us in the 90s.
I now work in construction and I fully expect Dix to eliminate more union jobs than he creates because his party has come out against every major project that creates jobs for our unions.

Tomorrow I am off to work on a UNION project that the NDP put the kibosh on 20 years ago and is just now being completed.
 

FiveParadox

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The Honourable Christy Clark M.L.A. (Vancouver-Point Grey), the Premier of British Columbia, is on a rapidly sinking ship. The bulk heads have failed. The engines have stopped. And they're thousands of kilometres from land. Her Majesty's Government for British Columbia as led by the B.C. Liberals is a clear embarassment to the province; she needs to be thrown out as leader.

She is losing the backing of her own ministers, necessitating an emergency cabinet meeting for her to attempt to bring everyone back on the same page and to quell dissent. She's also seeing riding association presidents, vice-presidents, and other executives in various electoral districts resign in protest over her management of the "ethnicgate" issue, such as in the riding of Surrey-Tynehead.

Any steps at this point, though, are obviously too little too late.

The B.C. Liberals are going to be crushed during the provincial general election this May, and Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition in the B.C. New Democratic Party is going to be catapulted to a strong majority position in the legislature.
 

JLM

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The Honourable Christy Clark M.L.A. (Vancouver-Point Grey), the Premier of British Columbia, is on a rapidly sinking ship. The bulk heads have failed. The engines have stopped. And they're thousands of kilometres from land. Her Majesty's Government for British Columbia as led by the B.C. Liberals is a clear embarassment to the province; she needs to be thrown out as leader.

She is losing the backing of her own ministers, necessitating an emergency cabinet meeting for her to attempt to bring everyone back on the same page and to quell dissent. She's also seeing riding association presidents, vice-presidents, and other executives in various electoral districts resign in protest over her management of the "ethnicgate" issue, such as in the riding of Surrey-Tynehead.

Any steps at this point, though, are obviously too little too late.

The B.C. Liberals are going to be crushed during the provincial general election this May, and Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition in the B.C. New Democratic Party is going to be catapulted to a strong majority position in the legislature.

The only part of this that really saddens me is what the Dippers are not going to accomplish, once elected!
 

L Gilbert

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The Honourable Christy Clark M.L.A. (Vancouver-Point Grey), the Premier of British Columbia, is on a rapidly sinking ship. The bulk heads have failed. The engines have stopped. And they're thousands of kilometres from land. Her Majesty's Government for British Columbia as led by the B.C. Liberals is a clear embarassment to the province; she needs to be thrown out as leader.

She is losing the backing of her own ministers, necessitating an emergency cabinet meeting for her to attempt to bring everyone back on the same page and to quell dissent. She's also seeing riding association presidents, vice-presidents, and other executives in various electoral districts resign in protest over her management of the "ethnicgate" issue, such as in the riding of Surrey-Tynehead.

Any steps at this point, though, are obviously too little too late.

The B.C. Liberals are going to be crushed during the provincial general election this May, and Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition in the B.C. New Democratic Party is going to be catapulted to a strong majority position in the legislature.
Yeah, well, I have no problem with a change in gov't. The thing in BC is that mostly, people vote to boot out an existing one instead of voting in one that works halfways decently. And every single time the Dippers get in, they have managed to double the provincial debt. Besides that, the last one caused businesses to leave the province by the hordes; as well as a lot of individuals, had scandals almost per week, etc.