Nurse says hospital granted dad’s request for no black nurses near newborn
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What do you mean? If the request is based on a mental illness? You'll need to give me a 'for instance'.
So the reasoning behind the request is what you mean. Ok, well, does that change the basic right to make the request or the choice to go elsewhere? I don't think it does. This whole thing to me is less about the request that's being made or why and more about the steps taken to accommodate said request. The reasoning, the validity behind the request doesn't really matter. But the actions taken on the part of the granter of the request do matter.
I don't know, perhaps that is gender discrimination. From the staffing side of things I mean, not the patient side of things. Perhaps we're just more accustomed to it so it doesn't seem as if it is.
Yeah I do get that piece. But let's take the father's request out of it entirely for a moment. Should the hospital, or any business, use race as a factor when making it's staff schedules?
That's really the only point that I'm making. Perfect world or not, the hospital shouldn't be using race as a factor in any decision making. I mean, I understand that it's not a perfect world, we human beings are full of flaws, prejudices, biases. But that's the reason we have laws and rules against discrimination on the basis of race, religion, gender, etc, in the first place. To compensate for that.
The fact that the hospital was accommodating his request doesn't make their actions any less discriminatory.
I don't want to step on this guy's rights, as repugnant as I find his request to be. He can request the sky to be pink for all I care, I'll think he's a moron for making the request of course, but he can request it until the cows come home.
The article shows it was done. That does not make it legal.
Wait and see what the court decides. I can see who will win on this.
The few times I have been in the hospital I was quite happy to take whatever help I could get. Don't care if they are green with pink pokadots as long as they know what they are doing.
To what are you referring here?
It's the LAW, you can't just treat people badly because you don't like the colour of their skin, their heritage, their religious choice, or their sex. So, I'm pretty sure you can and will uphold such a concept.
I agree that the request should have been ignored. let the man find another hospital to do his bidding.
So when do we uphold this crappy law?
Every time someone gets offended?
It's one of them laws that sound good at first but is impossible to properly manage.
There are things we can't control, and should just leave be as is. This is one of them.
We can't expect to solve every problem with legislation. We more
often then not create 10 new problems for every one we solve.
That is why I say you guys have way to much faith in our courts.
Legislation does not prevent all problems nor does it protect everyone. WoW. I mean Wow. What insight. Of course it cannot.
To help you understand I will use a simple example.
It is against the law to murder a person. Yet people do commit murder.
What laws do is protect to a point, inform you of your rights and your obligations.
Society also by determining as a whole what is or is not acceptable also can effect changes in a person’s behaviors.
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It's easy to understand why 90% of the population act in a criminal way. From your point of view the law, is a guideline. No wonder its such a mess.
Behaviour cannot be legislated; however, society can and has an obligation to penalise bad behaviour.