Quit picking on Obama……
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He's looking out for the little guy.
Obama: 57 Vacation Days Since Vowing He 'Will Not Rest Until Anyone' Can Find A GOOD Job | CNS News
Obama: 57 Vacation Days Since Vowing He 'Will Not Rest Until Anyone' Can Find A GOOD Job | CNS News
Obama is going to extract very serious concessions from Harper for Keystone XL Pipeline to be built across the US. Word is that Obama is going to make Harper pledge to impose a North American carbon tax on Alberta's oil to be shipped through the pipeline. This will be done to sooth the hurt feelings of American environmentalists.
I doubt that will be the case on this. TCPL has already announced that they will reverse one of the East/West lines to transport bitumen to Eastern Canada for refining and sale to international markets if KXL doesn't go forward.
Factor-in that Harper has already mused that the Northern Gateway line to the West coast might be pushed through and the leverage that Obama has starts to diminish significantly
I hope you're right. But my prior post reflects what is being discussed down here. My sympathies are with the Canadians.
Well, it is what it is. It's the job of the US Federal gvt to look out for the best interests of Americans and if that is to deny KXL, then the alternate options will explored by the various Canadian operators
Certain Americans for sure.
The greenies would be happy if Canada explored and utilized their other options. Do you think they give a BLEEP? Their mission is to create as much hardship for everyone here except themselves. One need look no further than the Kennedy's to see that.
They get pinched for chaining themselves to the White House to stop the pipeline... yet they've been battling the building of a wind farm off the Kennedy Compound in Hyannis, Ma... on Cape Cod. NIMBY
Obama are pretty good but its congress (republicans) who dragging him down, putting up barricades in front of Obama, crying and demanding that they get their way or highway.
Obama are dealing with babies, I don't expect big and many changes from Obama thank to ungrateful congress, changes will come from baby steps.
Unless republicans decide to man up and work WITH president.
Obama are dealing with babies, I don't expect big and many changes from Obama thank to ungrateful congress, changes will come from baby steps.
Unless republicans decide to man up and work WITH president.
He had 2 years where the Democrats controled everything and the only thing he did was run up the debt.
The Dems work very hard to try and forget that little tidbit of information... It flies in the face of the reality that Obama couldn't even get his own team onside during those first 2 years.
Yeah it totally helps when he had economy crashing hard from bush policies, fixing that doesn't take 2 years. It will take more than 1 president to fix it maybe I'm wrong. But since then Obama manage to get the economy back up slowly despite republicans tantrums.
Stop with the excuses already... Obama knew full well what he was getting into before his first term, yet he still went on and made his larger-than-life promises (twice in fact).
The fact that he was unable to rally his own party in the first 2 years of his first term is telling of someone that was trying to ram their own personal agenda down an entire nation's throat.... His own party wouldn't backstop that insanity - is this fact too obvious such that you can't see it at all?
Why don't you give this woman a call, she is on the same page as you... You 2 can talk; you'll feel better
OBAMA GAVE ME A FREE PHONE - REMIX - YouTube
OBAMA GAVE ME A FREE PHONE - REMIX - YouTube
Okay lemme copy and paste
Let’s take a trip back to 2008.
And let’s brush up on some basics. First, did you forget that the President needed 60 votes to pass legislation? The healthcare bill is a good example of that. There were NOT 60 Democrats in the Senate. Remember that? So there had to be reconciliation.
What about the Stimulus? Again, there was NOT 60 Democratic votes to pass it. Reconciliation did not work. It was blocked by the Republicans, and Obama traded job-creating for tax cuts. Remember those tax cuts he let go on? Yep, traded for job creation - which it did accomplish as much as the baby stimulus that he was able to get would allow.
Is it all coming back to you now? How about this: It was Obama’s inaugural dinner. Senator Kennedy suffered a seizure. It’s kind of hard to work when you’ve had a seizure. He went back to Massachusetts.
Old news is so much fun to go back and read about. Here’s one I had forgotten, too. Al Franken had not yet been seated because the previous senator had challenged the election. Mein Gott, that went on forever with no way for him to vote in the Senate.
With Kennedy in Massachusetts and Franken in purgatory, awaiting his chance in the hell that is Congress, that left just 58 votes in the Senate. Memory Refresher: It took 60 votes to pass a bill in the Senate. The Republicans were already playing dirty politics and would not work across the aisle with the Democrats.
By the way, that was 56 Democrats and 2 Democratically-minded Independents. Not 58 Democrats.
Then, in April 2009 – good news. Republican Arlen Spector switched to Democrat. That gave the Democrats 60 seats with which to discourage a Republican filibuster (their most prized procedure at the time). But… oh no… we forgot, Al Franken was still in Purgatory out there in election recount turmoil. So… back to 59 votes.
We can pause here to lovingly remember the filibuster I just mentioned. Republicans made history during that time by using it more than any time ever before. Reminder (because this can get confusing): It takes 60 votes to overcome a filibuster. The Democrats only had 59 at this point… technically. One of those votes was the very ill, Senator Kennedy. He did cast one vote during that time.
Then, Senator Byrd was admitted to the hospital.
Then Al Franken was sworn in but Byrd was still in the hospital and Kennedy was too sick to ever vote again.
Senator Byrd finally returned, but Kennedy did not.
It wasn’t until August- 2009 that Senator Kirk was appointed to Kennedy’s seat, and finally they had the 60 votes.
That filibuster-proof 60 votes lasted exactly 4 months – Not 2 years. Not 1 year. Not 6 months.
Just 4 months – from August 2009 to February 2010 - when Scott Brown was sworn in.
But here’s a fact that nobody can deny:
Republicans had the presidency, the House, and the Senate from 2001 – 2007.
For six years, Republicans had total and complete and undeniably absolute control over everything.
And how did that work out in the final analysis?
It doesn’t bear repeating. You know the answer to that as well as I do. Six years to screw up the whole country – nay, the entire damned world!
And you whine because Obama could not fix it all in four months?
Alright, I expect you to whine. But from this point on there is no excuse for lying. Not now that you know the truth.
So quit riding on dirty conservative nuts.
Let’s take a trip back to 2008.
And let’s brush up on some basics. First, did you forget that the President needed 60 votes to pass legislation? The healthcare bill is a good example of that. There were NOT 60 Democrats in the Senate. Remember that? So there had to be reconciliation.
What about the Stimulus? Again, there was NOT 60 Democratic votes to pass it. Reconciliation did not work. It was blocked by the Republicans, and Obama traded job-creating for tax cuts. Remember those tax cuts he let go on? Yep, traded for job creation - which it did accomplish as much as the baby stimulus that he was able to get would allow.
Is it all coming back to you now? How about this: It was Obama’s inaugural dinner. Senator Kennedy suffered a seizure. It’s kind of hard to work when you’ve had a seizure. He went back to Massachusetts.
Old news is so much fun to go back and read about. Here’s one I had forgotten, too. Al Franken had not yet been seated because the previous senator had challenged the election. Mein Gott, that went on forever with no way for him to vote in the Senate.
With Kennedy in Massachusetts and Franken in purgatory, awaiting his chance in the hell that is Congress, that left just 58 votes in the Senate. Memory Refresher: It took 60 votes to pass a bill in the Senate. The Republicans were already playing dirty politics and would not work across the aisle with the Democrats.
By the way, that was 56 Democrats and 2 Democratically-minded Independents. Not 58 Democrats.
Then, in April 2009 – good news. Republican Arlen Spector switched to Democrat. That gave the Democrats 60 seats with which to discourage a Republican filibuster (their most prized procedure at the time). But… oh no… we forgot, Al Franken was still in Purgatory out there in election recount turmoil. So… back to 59 votes.
We can pause here to lovingly remember the filibuster I just mentioned. Republicans made history during that time by using it more than any time ever before. Reminder (because this can get confusing): It takes 60 votes to overcome a filibuster. The Democrats only had 59 at this point… technically. One of those votes was the very ill, Senator Kennedy. He did cast one vote during that time.
Then, Senator Byrd was admitted to the hospital.
Then Al Franken was sworn in but Byrd was still in the hospital and Kennedy was too sick to ever vote again.
Senator Byrd finally returned, but Kennedy did not.
It wasn’t until August- 2009 that Senator Kirk was appointed to Kennedy’s seat, and finally they had the 60 votes.
That filibuster-proof 60 votes lasted exactly 4 months – Not 2 years. Not 1 year. Not 6 months.
Just 4 months – from August 2009 to February 2010 - when Scott Brown was sworn in.
But here’s a fact that nobody can deny:
Republicans had the presidency, the House, and the Senate from 2001 – 2007.
For six years, Republicans had total and complete and undeniably absolute control over everything.
And how did that work out in the final analysis?
It doesn’t bear repeating. You know the answer to that as well as I do. Six years to screw up the whole country – nay, the entire damned world!
And you whine because Obama could not fix it all in four months?
Alright, I expect you to whine. But from this point on there is no excuse for lying. Not now that you know the truth.
So quit riding on dirty conservative nuts.
Blah, blah, blah..... More excuses - they're never ending with you guys.
Had Obama been a true leader, he would have found a way to work with all the representatives in gvt regardless of party affiliation.
That didn't happen, as evidenced by the virtual mutiny that almost occurred because of Obamacare.... BTW - how's that policy workin' for ya... From what I read, there are more companies that are down-sizing and converting full time employees to part time in order to bypass the legislation.
That's some policy, those that got laid-off or converted to part time must be so happy about that..... Well, at least they can get an Obamaphone; that's something
Had Obama been a true leader, he would have found a way to work with all the representatives in gvt regardless of party affiliation.
That didn't happen, as evidenced by the virtual mutiny that almost occurred because of Obamacare.... BTW - how's that policy workin' for ya... From what I read, there are more companies that are down-sizing and converting full time employees to part time in order to bypass the legislation.
That's some policy, those that got laid-off or converted to part time must be so happy about that..... Well, at least they can get an Obamaphone; that's something
Just as I expected. You refuse to believe that republicans did something wrong. That's what's wrong with conservatives. They won't work with anyone else.
I'm done with this thread. But I got advice for you, stop watching Fox News and you might be intelligent and capable of forming your own conclusion.
Peace out.
