Israel- Hamas Ceasefire

[MHz]

No I didn't, stop lying.
Hamas should have been on that since day one. Since it's on their side of the fence, they're responsible for making sure Israeli territory isn't threatened.

They tried, they kept getting shot or bombed.

 

[CDNBear]

They tried, they kept getting shot or bombed.

There you go lying again.

 

[MHz]

No I didn't, stop lying.
Hamas should have been on that since day one. Since it's on their side of the fence, they're responsible for making sure Israeli territory isn't threatened.

Actually it is the duty of Hamas to get the issue into the ICC and have all the displaced persons (via war crime) back and vote in a majority Government in Israel that fits instead of a fragment of the whole population thinking they have the right to rule the majority. I bet they are still blushing about the fact that God Himself removed them from the land. Is this their piddly attempt to show God who is the boss?

De:4:27:
And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations,
and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen,
whither the LORD shall lead you.

There you go lying again.

No linky,
You stinky.

 

[CDNBear]

Actually it is the duty of Hamas to get the issue into the ICC and have all the displaced persons (via war crime) back and vote in a majority Government in Israel that fits instead of a fragment of the whole population thinking they have the right to rule the majority. I bet they are still blushing about the fact that God Himself removed them from the land. Is this their piddly attempt to show God who is the boss?

De:4:27:
And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations,
and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen,
whither the LORD shall lead you.

Neat, you get caught lying again, and you jump to Biblical references and other assorted nonsense.

They tried, they kept getting shot or bombed.

No linky,
You stinky.

Interesting standards.

 

[taxslave]

20 Parallels of Zionism with Nazism

1) both based on supposed purity of blood.

2) both based on supposedly reuniting some religioethnic diaspora under one expansive state.

3) both attempting to revive some supposedly “glorious ancient kingdom” — a “glorious ancient Teutonic kingdom” for the NAZIs; a “glorious ancient Judaic kingdom” for the Nationalist Zionists.

4) both established a state that was culturally, legally, economically and religiously based to exclusively benefit one ethnic/racial group.

5) both based on violent racist exclusion and a highly intricate complex of racial exclusion laws (like Israel’s racial ‘Nuremberg laws’).

6) both based on creating a founding mythology — like, for Zionist Jews, “a land without a people”

7) both invented their own race: Aryans, by the NAZIs; Jews, constructed as a unique/genetic race, by the Nationalist Zionists.

8 ) both based on eliminating some other unwanted and supposedly inferior races — ethnic cleansing — and, in the case of Zionism, removing those unwanted people who supposedly didn’t exist.

9) both engaged in collective punishment and widespread torture (even inventing new sadistic torture methods),

10) both engaged in the mass imprisonment — without trials — of unwanted populations/races.

11) both enclosed unwanted races in walled-in ghettos and concentration camps — only the Nationalist Zionists made the walls many times higher and the concentration camps many times larger (like Gaza, in effect the world’s largest open-air prison/concentration camp).

12) both tried out new weapons on civilian populations (and Israel has engaged in the internationally illegal use of anti-personal weapons of mass destruction, like the widespread use of cluster bombs, on civilian populations).

13) both sought to erase existing countries — like the Nazis wanting to wipe Poland off the map and parts of other countries; the Nationialist Zionists wanting to wipe Palestine off the map and parts of other countries.

14) both used pseudo-archeology to claim that it had exclusive right to the land.

15) the Nazis obsessed about “too many Jews” in Germany; Nationalist Zionists/Israel obsesses about “too many Palestinians” and the re-emergence of a Palestinian majority in historic Palestine (once an overhwhelmingly Arab land).

16) both were violently and militarily expansionist.

17) both engaged in blitzkrieg fighter aircraft and tank warfare against civilian populations and civilian targets.

18 ) Nationalist Zionist Israeli Jews even studied the original NAZI methods for urban warfare and clearing Palestinians out of their ghettos. Exclaimed one Israeli commander, “Let’s be Judeo-Nazis!” (Reference: www.seruv.org.il — the website for Israeli Refuniks in the “Occupied Territories”; see “Letter to American Jews”; “The Nazification of Israel” — both online.)

19) both claimed to be based on “God’s will”.

20) and, finally (for Israel’s ‘final solution’), most recently (Feb 29, 2008 ), Israeli deputy defence minister threatens a “Holocaust” for the Palestinians.

Sheffield | 20 Parallels of Zionism with Nazism

Facts and reality just don't matter to you do they?

 

[gerryh]

Hamas should have been on that since day one. Since it's on their side of the fence, they're responsible for making sure Israeli territory isn't threatened.

Ummmmmm....no....... It's up to Israel to ensure their own territory is safe, and up to Hamas for their territory.

Your "suggestion" would mean it is Canada's responsibility to ensure american territory is safe. As in, IF bad guys enter into the states through Canada it is OUR fault that happened. It would mean that our border guards and the american border guards are sitting in the wrong booths right now.

 

[CDNBear]

Ummmmmm....no....... It's up to Israel to ensure their own territory is safe, and up to Hamas for their territory.

I agree, but for Hamas' part of the peace agreement, they need to gain control of their populace.

If they had, there wouldn't have been an incident.

Comparing the Gaza/Israel peace agreement to Canada/US border security is almost funny dude.

 

[earth_as_one]

Imagine daily life under these conditions. Occupation harshness enforces institutionalized terror. Fear is constant. Collective punishment is policy.

Peaceful public demonstrations are assaulted. Free expression and movement are prohibited. Population centers are isolated. Borders are closed.

video of IDF shooting blindfolded, handcuffed non-violent protestor:
Visual: Blindfolded Palestinian shot by soldier with rubber bullet - YouTube

Normal daily life is denied. Economic strangulation and institutionalized racism are imposed. So are curfews, roadblocks, checkpoints, separation walls, electric fences, and other barriers.

Neighborhood incursions, land, sea and air attacks, bulldozed homes, land theft, ethnic cleansing, slow-motion genocide, targeted killings, mass arrests, torture, and gulag imprisonment reflect daily life for praying to the wrong God.

Fundamental civil and human rights are denied. Crimes of war and against humanity repeat without redress. Wanting to live free in sovereign Palestine is called terrorism.

Punitive taxes are imposed. Few services are provided. Vital ones are lacking or inadequate. Palestinian lawmakers are imprisoned for belonging to the wrong party.

Fishermen are attacked at sea. So are farmers working their land. Trying at the wrong time risks arrest, injury or death. Crops and orchards are destroyed. Settlers commit regular attacks. Courts provide no help.

Gaza is suffocating under siege. Scoundrel media policy enforces coverup and denial, blame the victim, and portray Israel as the region’s only free democratic state. Reality reflects police state harshness. It persists without end.

Even Jews challenging injustice are targeted.

Rogues tolerate no opposition. Israeli ones have few equals.

I want to tell the world

By Nahida
Warning Graphic Images of Palestinian Suffering:
Tell the World « Attending the World

Not guilty. The Israeli captain who emptied his rifle into a Palestinian schoolgirl

· Officer ignored warnings that teenager was terrified
· Defence says 'confirming the kill' standard practice

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/nov/16/israel2

 

[CDNBear]

Oh c'mon, you can go further back than that to demonize Israel.

You're slipping.

 

[gore0bsessed]

Oh c'mon, you can go further back than that to demonize Israel.

You're slipping.

No one is demonizing Israel but themselves, by their own actions.

 

[Goober]

So does anyone think that Hamas is split between hardline- no peace- and those that want in the future a viable state and peace with Israel. And I am not referring to a 3 state agreement - Gaza- West Bank- Israel-

 

[CDNBear]

No one is demonizing Israel...

Yes you are, stop lying.

 

[MHz]

Neat, you get caught lying again, and you jump to Biblical references and other assorted nonsense.





Interesting standards.

At least I can jump to an appropriate one, one that even a Jew should be able to understand, but it looks like you both have had the same form of corrupt teachings. I don't mind trolls like you but HF do you have to be a stuck record with one tiny line to throw out. Oh yeah anything else gets thrown back in your face when shown to be an intentional attempt to pass off, wait for it, a falsehood. Shooting unarmed civilians is morally repugnant, no wonder the IDF is held in high esteem by you.

Didn't they ban your *** for that deception about an invasion by Saddam and the border incident some 6 months later, might be part of the reason this site has the rep it does.

 

[CDNBear]

At least I can jump to an appropriate one, one that even a Jew should be able to understand, but it looks like you both have had the same form of corrupt teachings.

Back to calling me a Jew again I see.

I don't mind trolls like you but HF do you have to be a stuck record with one tiny line to throw out.

I'm not stuck, you guys just keep on lying and I keep calling you on it.

Oh yeah anything else gets thrown back in your face when shown to be an intentional attempt to pass off, wait for it, a falsehood.

You haven't proven that yet. Stop lying.

Shooting unarmed civilians is morally repugnant, no wonder the IDF is held in high esteem by you.

That's IDF policy?

Please provide the policy or expose yourself as a liar again.

Didn't they ban your *** for that deception about an invasion by Saddam and the border incident some 6 months later, might be part of the reason this site has the rep it does.

I didn't do anything deceptive.

That was EAO, DB, gorby and you. As has been proven, repeatedly.

 

[MHz]

Back to calling me a Jew again I see.

Why would I do that, we cleared that up some time ago. I was pointing out that it was from the Torah and short and not part of any 'complex passage' so a Jew most likely understands it. That doesn't mean it would be understood by you. I doubt the Jews would even want you, their standards may not be very high these days but that would still not include you as being a viable candidate.

 

[CDNBear]

Why would I do that...

Because you're prone to lying, making silly allegations and writing ridiculous posts.

... we cleared that up some time ago.

Yes, you got caught lying.

I was pointing out that it was from the Torah and short and not part of any 'complex passage' so a Jew most likely understands it.

Wrong thread.

That doesn't mean it would be understood by you.

Is that why IO had to explain to you that the Bible was based on the Torah and not the other way around as you claimed?

I doubt the Jews would even want you, their standards may not be very high these days but that would still not include you as being a viable candidate.

I have lots of Jewish friends back in Montreal. They think I'm crazy, but a really cool guy.

 

[MHz]

I have lots of Jewish friends back in Montreal. They think I'm crazy, but a really cool guy.

They would say that to a goy who blindly parrots what they say.

 

[CDNBear]

They would say that to a goy who blindly parrots what they say.

I parrot anti war jingoisms, Yiddish slang, Jewish jokes, and anti Quebecoius rhetoric?

You really should try some honesty sometime.

 

[MHz]

Is that why IO had to explain to you that the Bible was based on the Torah and not the other way around as you claimed?

I'm going to assume you mean (I). The Torah has followers that don't use the NT to complete the story those 5 books start. Not the smartest move if you want to claim to understanding God. That also means taking in their view on things via various writings outside of the Scriptures themselves is not the smartest thing to do. A Jew doing it I can understand that, but you claim no affiliation to that group, so that just makes you a parrot with no real independent thinking, just part of the 'collective'.

 

[CDNBear]

I'm going to assume you mean (I). The Torah has followers that don't use the NT to complete the story those 5 books start. Not the smartest move if you want to claim to understanding God. That also means taking in their view on things via various writings outside of the Scriptures themselves is not the smartest thing to do. A Jew doing it I can understand that, but you claim no affiliation to that group, so that just makes you a parrot with no real independent thinking, just part of the 'collective'.

You're in the wrong thread again.