Yeah. That, too. Reminds me of the bit about "men shall not lie with men as they do with their wives" thing. Kinda lets lesbians and female bis off the hook.
God’s law versus secular law. Which is moral?
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Jews have the 10 Commandments (equal to the 2 Christian Laws) plus more the 600 dietary and morality laws, you saying they are not capable of existing on their own?
Better look up all the adultery laws rather than taking 1 and thinking is covers what all 600 cover. Plus men were the 'rulers' in those days aind they were 'talked to' by God and by God's (male only) Prophets.
So basically you are telling Jews to abandon their religion entirely. I don't see that happening really, for them or anybody else so who is on drugs? Atheists have no moral practices that 'trump' any religion, do something against their laws and you pay the price as determined bty the courts.
Covet does not mean steal, it means to be envious of. If you aren't on drugs you should probably start.
Really? With the exception of the commandments which display arrogance and intolerance (the first 4) I think one would suffice: the one about treating others as though we'd like to be treated.
Well, mostly men ruled, but there were such people as Cleopatra, Hatshepsut, Olympias, etc.
And men made their gods in their own image (or would have liked to).
Either way, rational humans still don't need religion to figure out what's good or bad.
Notice that "wife" was placed between "house" and "manservant". Priorities, priorities!
The good book's rules were really plagiarized from Hammurabi's Code.
The good book's rules were really plagiarized from Hammurabi's Code.
So if God had the Laws (even the changes that dropped the 600+)in mind even before the heaven was created but not published because they have specific start/stop dates does your theory still apply.
Were fallen angels under the law given in Re:21 and is it by those laws that God judged the world to be 'full of evil' because the only law man was under was the one about the tree (that far back)?
Then why are there any laws or courts if men can figure it out and follow it all on their own?
The Bible gives us a pretty clear example of what it is talking about, which part do you see as being irrational?
Jas:2:8:
If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself,
ye do well:
Jas:2:14:
What doth it profit,
my brethren,
though a man say he hath faith,
and have not works?
can faith save him?
Jas:2:15:
If a brother or sister be naked,
and destitute of daily food,
Jas:2:16:
And one of you say unto them,
Depart in peace,
be ye warmed and filled;
notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
Jas:2:17:
Even so faith, if it hath not works,
is dead,
being alone.
The typical good Samaritan in this day and age, is he operating from the law above or following a universal government law?
Religion means personal philosophy. Nothing else. Every religion before the present christian formulation taught self reliance for salvation and only self reliance. It preached the beauty and power of reason over the beastly carnal senses. We've gone a long way baby. haha Of course what we understand as religion today is not. It is exactly what the ancients warned against, idolatry. Million upon millions have died since the anti christ came to power in the church we know today. Literally the anti christ is and has been here for two thousand years all true christians were long ago consigned to early physical graves by the present mob of contenting little demons. Contrary to five thousand years of amassed wisdom. While the library of Alexandria still smoldered the end of the age of reason was already upon mankind. I'm a better christian by far than the god damning pope, so is my cat. Wake up and smell the brimstone. For two thousand years we have been pounded with Weapons Grade B ulls hit. WGB I call it.
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Those who need rules to be good can't comprehend those who don't. Judging by the numbers who need rules, those who don't are in the minority which tells me that quite possible human nature is intrinsically bad (if you believe in duality - the separation of god and man). Which also tells me that most humans need religion in order to keep them on the straight and narrow, which to me is a sad state of affairs. Or perhaps we have been brain washed into thinking that we need rules, so most people really haven't the capacity anymore to think for themselves. Most people have been lead to believe that they can't trust their own knowing and must rely on someone to tell them how to behave. If we can't trust our own knowing (to paraphrase Lenny Bruce) the fault lies with the manufacturer.
I think people are intrinsically good. Foolish, but good. The sheeple factor comes into play early on in life.
The number one religious rule of the ancient seers was only from within could the latent power of reason prevail over the matter of the body, commonly known as the tomb of the soul where it resides dead in matter. soma & sema, womb & tomb The old guys specifically condemned worship of external gods. Christianity was designed and marketed precisely to destroy absolutely the rule of reason.
Your mum only manufactured you. She likely didn't manufacture the rest of the universe.
It is quite possible that the contradictory nature of religion plays a major role in some sheeple getting confused. Being good is just common sense. It takes a certain amount of antisocial behaviour to consider doing otherwise and thinking oneself to be superior because they have god on their side takes a specific type of antisocial behaviour. By excluding others based on a belief system, necessitates a lack of cooperation and inclusiveness needed to have a cohesive social structure. To me, some social laws are necessary to keep these people from doing each other in.
Your mum only manufactured you. She likely didn't manufacture the rest of the universe.
She should've! And her home-baked bread was heavenly.
If women were goddesses in charge, there'd be far less petty squabbling. Men, as gods, are just one little letter short of mean.
Other way around, the universe manufactured her.She likely didn't manufacture the rest of the universe.