Israel launches Gaza offensive, kills Hamas commander

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Not a huge surprise, should we cover the killing of somebody attending a meeting that has peace as it's main topic, by all means. That alone shows how immoral they have become, that you fail to comprehend that just means your brain no longer works properly.

I agree to a point but Hamas has never been moral. I'm glad you partially agree with me on Hama's immorality. The Israelis are doing their best to be rid of them.

Feel free to start another thread if you wish. You have my permission.
 

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Hamas' charter calls for the creation of an Islamic state in the territory that is now Gaza, Israel, and the West Bank, i.e. the destruction of Israel. I find it hard to be sympathetic, or to believe reports of Israeli atrocities from people with the destruction of Israel on their agenda.

Yer YODH is limp sinister.


The letter I, as the spiritual-masculine first half of the great IO symbol, must be examined more closely. It is in the alphabet and in language the symbol of the divine mind principle. It is the king of all being, knowing, determining, ordering, acting. And so it has been made the 10th (tenth) letter of the Hebrew alphabet, the king number both 1 and 10 or any multiple thereof, and therefore has for its meaning the word God itself. Its Hebrew name is YOD (YODH) and means the "hand of God." Its hieroglyphic representation is that of a tongue of candle flame, bent as it would
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be momentarily if blown upon by a gentle puff of the breath. This is to indicate the breathing of God upon the latent creative fires of atomic energy to blow them up to creative heat.

Hmmm... I don't see that as being the topic. According to the thread title which reads "Israel launches Gaza offensive, kills Hamas commander".

Discuss...


Israel launches Gaza offensive yet the braying howling little pus demons scream defense defense defense.


From what I understand the Israelis are literally calling ahead and letting them know to evacuate. Just what I was reading.
This is much different than Cast Lead.
The Israeli's would be fools to enter Gaza.

Sure sounds considerate don't it? What mission would start by relaying it's intended target to the relatives of the combatants? It's crap.
 
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From the very beginning the media tried to imply the Israeli action was not justified. Wednesday morning saw Fox News’ Leland Vitter say the IDF was responding to “low grade” attacks from Gaza. In what world would 150 rockets fired at civilian communities be considered a “low grade” attack?

Even days into the action (on Saturday Night), Long Island’s News 12 was claiming the entire escalation began with the Israeli killing of Ahmed Jabri, totally ignoring the missiles shot into Sderot and Ashkelon.


Ethan Bronner of the NY Times started his November 17 report with a similar claim “When Israel assassinated the top Hamas military commander in Gaza on Wednesday, setting off the current round of fierce fighting”


On Friday's ABC World News correspondent Alex Marquardt broadcast without question a claim by "one of the militant groups behind" the rocket attacks on Israel that they "wouldn't fire rockets if Israel wasn't killing us," even though almost 700 rockets had already been fired out of Gaza into the Jewish state between January 1 and November 9, before Israel's recent sustained military campaign began.

Related - Bloggers Spot More Dead Child Fakery by Hamas; CNN Fooled

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And somebody taking their land by force is is A OK?
I didn't say that, there is much wrong on both sides, more than enough to go around, but I do affirm Israel's right to exist and to defend itself. The trouble is that almost every action by either side can be justified as retaliation for something the other side did. In my view, the real issue, paraphrasing Sam Harris some, is that people believe the creator of the universe has written a book, but unfortunately we have several such books available and they're not consistent with each other. In the Middle East we have two factions with different books, each side claiming their book says the land belongs to them. We almost had the obvious two state solution in place once, but the parties of god wouldn't let it happen. This is another instance of Christopher Hitchens' dictum that religion poisons everything.

You can take that retaliation argument as far back in history as you like, from the current situation, back through various Arab-Israeli wars and failed and ignored UN resolutions to the creation of Israel, and the Palestinian refugee problem, in 1948, to WW2, the Balfour Declaration, which was itself at least partially motivated by some Christian notions of the end times and the necessary precursor of recreating the state of Israel, WW1, the Ottoman Empire, all the previous empires that that have overrun that territory, all the way to the Exodus and the entry of the Israelites into a Promised Land that was already occupied and had to be taken by force. This conflict is 5000 years old.
 

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The Hamas terrorist apologists like to ignore that stuff Loc. It has no place here.
LOL How dare Ahmed Al-Jaabari attend a meeting that had peace as it's centerpiece,, That can only come from below the bottom of the barrel. I'm not even going to wonder if the Saudi brokers knew that were helping to target the man. The parts that 'are allowed' stink to high heaven, no wonder you can't smell it.
 

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It's funny you should say that, while living on disputed land, lol.

It's funny that you defend the colonialists. If it's righteous that Israel conquer and destroy Palestine and whatever else they want Like Syria and Iran then you must also believe that your forefathers were legally and righteously conquered, their cities their culture and histories all destroyed by the same colonialist machine you cheer on to genocide in Palestine. Your ancestors must be pulling down the gates of heaven to come here and plug your ignorant mouth.
 

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LOL How dare Ahmed Al-Jaabari attend a meeting that had peace as it's centerpiece,, That can only come from below the bottom of the barrel. I'm not even going to wonder if the Saudi brokers knew that were helping to target the man. The parts that 'are allowed' stink to high heaven, no wonder you can't smell it.
Just because they say they were having a meeting about peace, doesn't mean they were really having a meeting about peace, lol.

But you go right ahead and believe everything they tell you.

It's funny that you defend the colonialists. If it's righteous that Israel conquer and destroy Palestine and whatever else they want Like Syria and Iran then you must also believe that your forefathers were legally and righteously conquered, their cities their culture and histories all destroyed by the same colonialist machine you cheer on to genocide in Palestine. Your ancestors must be pulling down the gates of heaven to come here and plug your ignorant mouth.
LOL, your limited grasp on reality is already well known, there was no need to highlight it.
 

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Just because they say they were having a meeting about peace, doesn't mean they were really having a meeting about peace, lol.

But you go right ahead and believe everything they tell you.

LOL, your limited grasp on reality is already well known, there was no need to highlight it.
Taking after your twin ES? Now why would I be distrustful of the words below, notice the source is from the side your heroes are on. Way to show you are what you type.

Israeli peace activist: Hamas leader Jabari killed amid talks on long-term truce

Gershon Baskin, who helped mediate between Israel and Hamas in the deal to release Gilad Shalit, says Israel made a mistake that will cost the lives of 'innocent people on both sides.'



Hours before Hamas strongman Ahmed Jabari was assassinated, he received the draft of a permanent truce agreement with Israel, which included mechanisms for maintaining the cease-fire in the case of a flare-up between Israel and the factions in the Gaza Strip. This, according to Israeli peace activist Gershon Baskin, who helped mediate between Israel and Hamas in the deal to release Gilad Shalit and has since...

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma...mid-talks-on-long-term-truce.premium-1.478085
 

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The ultimate game of family feud has gone on for centuries and will continue.
Each round increases the stakes for the safety of the world and will continue.
Israel has the right to exist if we were to suggest that Israel should give all the
land back to the Arabs, it would be also saying we should give America back
to the Natives. Nonsense.
The west and others contribute to two main themes here. The Arabs want the
Palestinians to remain in camps and poverty so they can claim they are fighting
for their liberation. The West postures and protests while Russia and China
supply weapons to the Arab States and we complain they are preventing the
avenue of peace from being paved.
In the afternoon after making that statement America sells weapons to Israel
and often new planes to the places we call dictatorial governments that oppress
human rights.
We act like hypocrites and ask the combatants to live by our example unfortunately
they are living by our example they are now hypocrites too ain't life wonderful.
 

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When you start a campaign by killing people attending meetings with peace in mind and have a 7=week operation started you are not looking for anything but completing the full campaign, just like in the campaign against Gaza a few years ago and with Lebanon a few years before that. You have to remember Israel lies more than it tells the truth, as always. Like as far back as when they signed UN 273.

You do know that, ... right?
11. The Media Can Legally Lie | Project Censored
 

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Based on what, the takeover was a criminal act that did nothing but cater to the wishes of the Rothschild bankers?
That's really not why Israel was created. Paranoid conspiracy theories will prevent you from really understanding much of the way things are, and I'd have expected a biblical literalist like you to be pleased by the creation of Israel, it's a necessary step in the end times prophecies.
 

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That's really not why Israel was created. Paranoid conspiracy theories will prevent you from really understanding much of the way things are, and I'd have expected a biblical literalist like you to be pleased by the creation of Israel, it's a necessary step in the end times prophecies.
Yes it is and the financial backing got on board in the 1880's. You delete all your internal references to this document?

November 2nd, 1917
Dear Lord Rothschild,
I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.
"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."
I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.
Yours sincerely,
Arthur James Balfour

As far as their being gathered by God there are a couple of big points that are missing, like when the gathering does take place it is to a safe land and none are left in any Nation and last but certainly not least all the people belonging to the 12 Tribes will be alive and physically walking around on that land, anything else is just a game (for losers like the Rothschild family) I still have a thread open in the Bible area that was just about ready to cover just what the 'day of the Lord' actually is, you should post a reply there if you really think you can defend anything that has been done in the last 130 years that has been geared toward God having any part in this farce.