The final Presidential debate

Who makes the other cry first


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Goober

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Because nations and cultures like Saudi Arabia that don't allow free speech, freedom of religion, and use the strictest interpretation of "sharia law" to intimidate their own citizens are in no way equal to freedom-loving countries like America.

Not the question I asked. The question is clear, concise and goes to a persons beliefs. A yes or no is all that is required.
 

Peaches

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I do not condemn all Muslims - Am I wrong.

the rantings changed over time to become more war like. Female mutilation so that they cannot obtain enjoyment from sex, full covering in public, women are virtual slaves, if raped need 4 witnesses, can be stoned and are in cases of adultry, in places like saudi arabia women cannot drive, Education of women - well look at the latest example with a gunshot wound to the head laying in a UK hospital, I was told by direct witnesses that they saw a car pass with a goat in the front seat and the woman in back - apparantly the goat was more valuable than the woman. Women are treated as chattel or personal possessions. Religious police roam the streets to beat defenseless women if they do not like what they see, perhaps an ankle. They even separate women into a seperate waiting area, makes you wonder if they have male and female water fountains. They are misogynistic that's beyond doubt.

Jews and Christians must pay a tax to an Islamic state because of their beliefs, look at the vicious attacks on christians in Egypt, and a man who converted to christianity in Iran.

Lying to desceve the infidel is supported in the Koran.

Islam is a theocratic ideology bent on concquering the world for islam by jihad if necessary

Listen to the Muslam Brotherhood and what they want to do to Israel and America, Hisbulla, Alkiada, and many many other terrorist organizations willing to blow up innocent people by the thousands - It has been a bloody religon even in the past, kidnapping and enslaving westerners and demanding ransoms.

No I do not trust muslams anywhere they live in large numbers like in michigan the enclaves are not safe to the average american citizen - threats and beatings. They are building mosques all over america, have taken over large parts of France, the Dutch have at least taken action. If Romney is elected hopefully we in america will take action too - wire tapping, surveillence, and sting operations to catch arrest and prosecute those who would send funding to terrorists over seas or foster terrorism within our borders. They are trying to push sharia law in the US!

No I do not believe there are any good muslams they are unamerican in beliefs and should be deported. They are little more than savage barbarians. We really need to bring back the knights Templar in a modern form.
 
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Goober

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the rantings changed over time to become more war like. Female castration, full covering in public, women are virtual slaves, if raped need 4 witnesses, can be stoned and are in cases of adultry, in places like saudi arabia women cannot drive, Education of women - well look at the latest example with a gunshot wound to the head laying in a UK hospital, I was told by direct witnesses that they saw a car pass with a goat in the front seat and the woman in back - apparantly the goat was more valuable than the woman. Women are treated as chattel or personal possessions. Religious police roam the streets to beat defenseless women if they do not like what they see, perhaps an ankle.

Jews and Christians must pay a tax to an Islamic state because of their beliefs, look at the vicious attacks on christians in Egypt, and a man who converted to christianity in Iran.

Lying to desceve the infidel is supported in the Koran.

Islam is a theocratic ideology bent on concquering the world for islam by jihad if necessary

Listen to the Muslam Brotherhood and what they want to do to Israel and America, Hisbulla, Alkiada, and many many other terrorist organizations willing to blow up innocent people by the thousands - It has been a bloody religon even in the past, kidnapping and enslaving westerners and demanding ransoms.

No I do not trust muslams anywhere they live in large numbers like in michigan the enclaves are not safe to the average american citizen - threats and beatings. They are building mosques all over america, have taken over large parts of France, the Dutch have at least taken action. If Romney is elected hopefully we in america will take action too - wire tapping, surveillence, and sting operations to catch arrest and prosecute those who would send funding to terrorists over seas or foster terrorism within our borders. They are trying to push sharia law in the US!

No I do not believe there are any good muslams they are unamerican in beliefs and should be deported. They are little more than savage barbarians. We really need to bring back the knights Templar in a modern form.

Just as I figured- Are you a Christian.
 

Peaches

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the rantings changed over time to become more war like. Female mutilation so that they cannot obtain enjoyment from sex, full covering in public, women are virtual slaves, if raped need 4 witnesses, can be stoned and are in cases of adultry, in places like saudi arabia women cannot drive, Education of women - well look at the latest example with a gunshot wound to the head laying in a UK hospital, I was told by direct witnesses that they saw a car pass with a goat in the front seat and the woman in back - apparantly the goat was more valuable than the woman. Women are treated as chattel or personal possessions. Religious police roam the streets to beat defenseless women if they do not like what they see, perhaps an ankle. They even separate women into a seperate waiting area, makes you wonder if they have male and female water fountains. They are misogynistic that's beyond doubt.

Jews and Christians must pay a tax to an Islamic state because of their beliefs, look at the vicious attacks on christians in Egypt, and a man who converted to christianity in Iran.

Lying to desceve the infidel is supported in the Koran.

Islam is a theocratic ideology bent on concquering the world for islam by jihad if necessary

Listen to the Muslam Brotherhood and what they want to do to Israel and America, Hisbulla, Alkiada, and many many other terrorist organizations willing to blow up innocent people by the thousands - It has been a bloody religon even in the past, kidnapping and enslaving westerners and demanding ransoms.

No I do not trust muslams anywhere they live in large numbers like in michigan the enclaves are not safe to the average american citizen - threats and beatings. They are building mosques all over america, have taken over large parts of France, the Dutch have at least taken action. If Romney is elected hopefully we in america will take action too - wire tapping, surveillence, and sting operations to catch arrest and prosecute those who would send funding to terrorists over seas or foster terrorism within our borders. They are trying to push sharia law in the US!

No I do not believe there are any good muslams they are unamerican in beliefs and should be deported. They are little more than savage barbarians. We really need to bring back the knights Templar in a modern form.

Yes, a definite yes you are wrong. We can talk about countries like Turkey where they throw rocks at american vehicles, and do not allow us to fly over their country to support our troops. Oh - but they are "good" muslams. Trust them if you like but I will only try to convert them to christianity. Oh - and don't forget Honor Killings because their own beautiful daughters are "too westerenized." There is little room for trust.
 

In Between Man

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Not the question I asked. The question is clear, concise and goes to a persons beliefs. A yes or no is all that is required.

I answered your question! Why does the America flag and its leader bow to no one?

BECAUSE WE ARE MORALLY SUPERIOR, not to mention that leaders aren't suppose to bow to other leaders!
 

Kreskin

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I answered your question! Why does the America flag and its leader bow to no one?

BECAUSE WE ARE MORALLY SUPERIOR, not to mention that leaders aren't suppose to bow to other leaders!
 

Goober

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Maybe the question ought to be is Obama inferior to certain groups/individuals to justify bowing in their presence

Why are people bent all out of shape over protocol- Nixon did it - But because Obama did it - OMG- He must be a Muslim.

Both the Emperor, Japanese, Saudi King are important to US interests.
 

captain morgan

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Why are people bent all out of shape over protocol- Nixon did it - But because Obama did it - OMG- He must be a Muslim.

We're not talking about Nixon, but for the record, Nixon never went to the same extreme as Obama

Both the Emperor, Japanese, Saudi King are important to US interests.


So are the Brits, Germans, Canadians, Chinese, etc.. Should Obama be bowing down for everyone each time he meets?
 

Goober

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We're not talking about Nixon, but for the record, Nixon never went to the same extreme as Obama




So are the Brits, Germans, Canadians, Chinese, etc.. Should Obama be bowing down for everyone each time he meets?

Germans and Chinese do not have a Royal Family-

Do you gain cooperation by snubbing Royal protocol where it is important to that countries citizens. Tell me the upside of that. None.
And If Obama had done that - well he would be slammed by Republicans for publicly snubbing 2 important allies. Does not know how to gain cooperation with allies- Uppity President- And yes I am deliberate in the use of the term- Uppity- and not directed at you. But some others on this Forum
He follows Protocol- Oh My - He really is a Muslim.

It is political theater. Good manners.
 

captain morgan

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Germans and Chinese do not have a Royal Family-

So what?

Do you gain cooperation by snubbing Royal protocol where it is important to that countries citizens.

If cooperation is hinged on complying (on a 1-way basis) to the whims of another party, well, it would appear that there is no real cooperation.. Hell, I would wager that Royal protocol would dictate that the royal members get whatever the hell they want - no negotiations and no exceptions.

Are you willing to take royal privilege that far?

Tell me the upside of that. None.

Treating and negotiating as equals

He follows Protocol- Oh My - He really is a Muslim.

When in doubt; play the race card, eh?

It is political theater. Good manners.

It's been taken too far and at no other time (historically) did the opposition party(s) bring this up... This is a situation unique to Obama
 

Goober

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So what?



If cooperation is hinged on complying (on a 1-way basis) to the whims of another party, well, it would appear that there is no real cooperation.. Hell, I would wager that Royal protocol would dictate that the royal members get whatever the hell they want - no negotiations and no exceptions.

Are you willing to take royal privilege that far?



Treating and negotiating as equals



When in doubt; play the race card, eh?



It's been taken too far and at no other time (historically) did the opposition party(s) bring this up... This is a situation unique to Obama

My points are clear- disagree with them fine- But I only brought in the Uppity bit as you know it is a factor as well as I do. Not for you but others- Just the reality.

But take a look at the 2 candidates- 1 half African American- the other a Mormon - Reflects well on the US does it not.
 

captain morgan

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But take a look at the 2 candidates- 1 half African American- the other a Mormon - Reflects well on the US does it not.

I believe that it reflects very positively on the USA.

Sadly, there will always be those that will incorporate race or religion as the impetus to support (or not) an individual as opposed to the actual policies offered and the character of the individual