Cop Sucker Punches Woman at Philadelphia Puerto Rican Day Parade

PoliticalNick

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Do you have stats to back up a clearly off the wall post. Aside from not having any use for Police Officers?
You filling in for Cliffy?

Have you watched much news lately? From Officers spraying mace on seated protestors to young men being shot for holding a cell phone to Visitors being tazed to death in airports. Something is wrong with our police forces and it needs to be addressed and fixed.

I have much use for peace officers upholding their first oath, I have no use for police officers oppressing the citizenry on behalf of the politicians.
 

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Have you watched much news lately? From Officers spraying mace on seated protestors to young men being shot for holding a cell phone to Visitors being tazed to death in airports. Something is wrong with our police forces and it needs to be addressed and fixed.

I have much use for peace officers upholding their first oath, I have no use for police officers oppressing the citizenry on behalf of the politicians.
So in other words, no, it was just more of your hot air and nuttery.
 

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A Juror with a proven bias against the person they are to find innocent or guilty- should they be removed from the Jury? Yes or no is sufficent.

Yep, I wouldn't be a good juror for a cop or a politician. Don't have a problem admitting that.
 

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...or an officer was under the impression that you (or your wife, or your daughter, etc...)
commited an act which you didn't, and assulted you (or your wife, or your child)...this
can go both ways, and some of us have been on the wrong side of the coin in the 'court
of the not so public opinion' where you just pray that video comes forward to vidicate
things, and it doesn't. That's a different story for another time though.

IF the cop approached me and wanted to question me regarding the 'act' - I wouldn't run off and give them all the more reason to take a more aggressive tactic.

With respect Ron, the jails are filled with the 'innocent'.

How could society possibly operate a police/security force if they were prohibited from investigating illegal acts?
 

gerryh

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For some, a cop can do no wrong. For others, a cop can do no right. Unfortunately, when you have both sitting across the table from each other, nothing get's accomplished.
 

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For some, a cop can do no wrong. For others, a cop can do no right. Unfortunately, when you have both sitting across the table from each other, nothing get's accomplished.

For some - wait for the evidence.
 

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Unlikely for them to press charges at all.

Too bad

The video speaks for itself.

The video only speaks for what it shows.... The world isn't a static, 2 dimensional place - events DID occur before and after the video captured a portion of the action

You guys can say she assaulted a cop til you are blue in the face but the facts remain the same.

She admitted to spraying silly string at him... Like it or not, it's assault (and littering to boot).

The police, as usual, were infringing upon peoples rights to freedom of assembly and freedom of speech.

The police were also protecting the rights of those bystanders, shop owners, residents, etc in their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

The world doesn't revolve exclusively around the whims of every protest group on the planet

Also, any jury is going to look at the situation with half a dozen or so police within feet and this large man using unneccessary force upon a small female and they will find in her favor

Not all trials are via jury.

I know some of you seem to think that we who disagree with the govt and how society is operating have no right to protest but we do!

Sure you do.. And I have my rights too (inconvenient as that may be to you)

We also have the right to escalate into whatever is required to maintain our rights to protest and be heard.

You also have the right to be tried and convicted on those actions.

If that means a full-scale armed revolt because the govt is oppressing the citizenry then so be it...it is allowed and expected and in the US is demanded by the second ammendment. So quit your whining about people who fight for your freedoms and rights and recognize a simple assault when you see it instead of just defending some moron in a uniform.

Come to think of it, you probably will have the right to enjoy 3 squares and a cot in the penitentiary.

Have you watched much news lately? From Officers spraying mace on seated protestors to young men being shot for holding a cell phone to Visitors being tazed to death in airports. Something is wrong with our police forces and it needs to be addressed and fixed.

The protestors were ordered to move... They made the dumb-ass decision to sit and get their eyes wiped.

Morons.... Opps - I really meant to say 'martyrs'

Do you consider your bias to be interfering with making a fair decision on the officer and others

Hard to penalize honesty.

Not unless you have an axe to grind.
 

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For some, a cop can do no wrong. For others, a cop can do no right. Unfortunately, when you have both sitting across the table from each other, nothing get's accomplished.
You forgot...

For some a cop is human and still susceptible to all that entails.
 

PoliticalNick

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If you actually believed that, you'd be willing to give this officer the benefit of the doubt.
Sure I will. I doubt he will get any benefits after his a$$ is fired. I have no problem with letting him just get on with his life....no jail, no fines, no criminal record even...just no longer as a police officer because he has demonstrated his inability to control himself in stressful situations and committed assault on a citizen.
No they had detained someone for public drunkenness I believe, and the "protesters" began attacking them
You have proof or evidence of that specifically proof or evidence that she attacked police?

So long as the video has a manageable chain of evidence.
So that would be never then....even the cops have tampered with evidence in the past and should not be trusted to cross that 'thin blue line' and rat on their fellow officers. I would say the chain of evidence does not matter when in this digital age we can tell if video has been edited.

The court of public opinion does not operate based on the notion of innocent until proven guilty, mind you, it does seem to reward the mass demonstrations and illegal antics of protesters. Case in point, the G-8 summits have been nothing short of a week of anarchy in any of the cities where they have been held, yet there is more sympathy for the wrong-doers than there is for the poor cops & security that get to deal with the rampant crime, vandalism and theft

Do you really have your head that far up the govt's a$$? The G-8 protest violence in Quebec was proven to be instigated by under-cover police with the mission to start a conflict. Police use 'kettling' regularly to promote a reason for them to get violent. There may be a small few involved in some protests who are out to break the law but I can say the same for cops and govt agents. Protesting is not wrong-doing, having and voicing an opinion contrary to what the govt want is not a crime. You may want it to be criminal and the govt will certainly try to find a way to make it criminal (even to passing unconstitutional laws surrounding assembly & free speech) but it is not criminal no matter how you try to make it that way.

This cop was provoked, and for the record, he didn't get away with anything. Many people think that he's getting fired for doing his job in (attempting) to detain a person that broke a variety of laws.
And your evidence of her breaking any law is????


Ironically, by not recognizing that this woman violated any laws; you are justifying her illegal actions.
What laws did she break? Laws against free assembly and free speech are unconstitutional and therefore invalid.


Assault isn't limited to punching. She could have spit at him and assaulted him equally as much as punching
I know. I also know the premise of mitigated response. That means you respond with only the level of aggression directed at you. So if she sprayed an officer with silly string then he could reasonably have sprayed her back. A punch in the teeth is not a mitigated response to a little water or silly string.


You might think differently if you or a neighbour were the victim of a mugging or home invasion
If I was the victim of a home invasion we most likely would need the coroner, not the cops.
 

gerryh

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You forgot...

For some a cop is human and still susceptible to all that entails.


Sorry, nope. A cop has the ability to ruin a persons life. When they put that uniform on, they are not allowed to make "mistakes".
 

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Sorry, nope. A cop has the ability to ruin a persons life. When they put that uniform on, they are not allowed to make "mistakes".

So does a judge –
So does a crown prosecutor
S0 does an ex wife who states you molested your own child.
Also - We all make mistakes.
 

PoliticalNick

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Do you consider your bias to be interfering with making a fair decision on the officer and others

Hard to penalize honesty.
I think it is fair that any police officer who commits a criminal act, no matter how small or 'human' the act, should be removed from the force. Do i think someone with a decent record should be jailed and have the rest of his life ruined for a humanistic error in judgement, no, but he can't be a cop anymore.
 

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You have proof or evidence of that specifically proof or evidence that she attacked police?
Already posted.

So that would be never then....even the cops have tampered with evidence in the past and should not be trusted to cross that 'thin blue line' and rat on their fellow officers. I would say the chain of evidence does not matter when in this digital age we can tell if video has been edited.
I already acknowledged that you don't agree with due process.

And your evidence of her breaking any law is????
Her own admission, which was already posted.

What laws did she break? Laws against free assembly and free speech are unconstitutional and therefore invalid.
You really are an idiot.
I know. I also know the premise of mitigated response. That means you respond with only the level of aggression directed at you. So if she sprayed an officer with silly string then he could reasonably have sprayed her back. A punch in the teeth is not a mitigated response to a little water or silly string.
Actually, it would appear that she was struck because she was attempting to flee.

Sorry, nope. A cop has the ability to ruin a persons life. When they put that uniform on, they are not allowed to make "mistakes".
I disagree. You have the ability to ruin peoples lives when you start your car. I feel you deserve a chance if you make a mistake.

I think it is fair that any police officer who commits a criminal act, no matter how small or 'human' the act, should be removed from the force. Do i think someone with a decent record should be jailed and have the rest of his life ruined for a humanistic error in judgement, no, but he can't be a cop anymore.
Good thing he didn't commit a criminal act then.
 

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You have proof or evidence of that specifically proof or evidence that she attacked police?

Ahhh... Her admission?

Good enough for ya?


So that would be never then....even the cops have tampered with evidence in the past and should not be trusted to cross that 'thin blue line' and rat on their fellow officers. I would say the chain of evidence does not matter when in this digital age we can tell if video has been edited.

.. and the plot thickens



Do you really have your head that far up the govt's a$$? The G-8 protest violence in Quebec was proven to be instigated by under-cover police with the mission to start a conflict.

Are you wearing your tin-foil hat properly?

You do know that the gvt CAN read your thoughts via the spy satellites in orbit... It's a fact


And your evidence of her breaking any law is????

Can her admission considered evidence?

What laws did she break? Laws against free assembly and free speech are unconstitutional and therefore invalid.


  1. Resisting arrest
  2. Assault
  3. Littering (just for good measure)

I know. I also know the premise of mitigated response. That means you respond with only the level of aggression directed at you. So if she sprayed an officer with silly string then he could reasonably have sprayed her back. A punch in the teeth is not a mitigated response to a little water or silly string.

Lemme ask you - IF the officer didn't have access to silly string; could he substitute his gun?

... Or maybe all cops should be outfitted with standard issue silly string and big bubble wands

Big Bubble Wands - Make Giant Bubbles Easily!

If I was the victim of a home invasion we most likely would need the coroner, not the cops.

Well, guess that you do have the right to be buried in a public cemetary
 

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I think it is fair that any police officer who commits a criminal act, no matter how small or 'human' the act, should be removed from the force. Do i think someone with a decent record should be jailed and have the rest of his life ruined for a humanistic error in judgement, no, but he can't be a cop anymore.

I disagree.
 

PoliticalNick

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The police were also protecting the rights of those bystanders, shop owners, residents, etc in their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
And if they acted according to their oath as "Peace Officers" they could accomplish that without promoting conflict with a different group of citizens.

Sure you do.. And I have my rights too (inconvenient as that may be to you)
Yep, you have the right to be a moron and approve the governmental oppression of any group who disagrees with them.


The protestors were ordered to move... They made the dumb-ass decision to sit and get their eyes wiped.
So sorry but you are still under the mistaken impression that a cop has a right to order me to move from a sidewalk or a park or wherever when I have committed no crimes. You are sadly mistaken. In fact I don't even legally have to provide my name or even speak to a cop unless he arrests me lawfully. Learn what your rights really are surrounding police and you will see in most situations the cops break the law, commit assault, and always give unlawful orders which need not be followed.
 

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You really are an idiot.
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Bingo......

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