Cop Sucker Punches Woman at Philadelphia Puerto Rican Day Parade

[TenPenny]

and I'll just get a reprimand for punching some stranger, female

Out of curiousity, why does it matter that she was female? Would it be not so bad if it was a man? Why?

The cop punched the person he thought had assaulted him. He was wrong, therefore he needs to be charged with assault. Not a letter of reprimand, but a letter of unemployment would be appropriate. He's obviously not bright enough to be a cop.

 

[B00Mer]

Wow...... just wow.:roll:

Out of curiousity, why does it matter that she was female? Would it be not so bad if it was a man? Why?

The cop punched the person he thought had assaulted him. He was wrong, therefore he needs to be charged with assault. Not a letter of reprimand, but a letter of unemployment would be appropriate. He's obviously not bright enough to be a cop.

Respectfully, go for a ride around with a police officer to see what it's like to deal with the every day BS complait.. this guys a good cop that made an honest mistake... in a crowd of protestors and a confusing set of circumstances ....

If he continued to hit her, that would be different. I'd say he just knocked some sense into her, something that a few members on this thread are in dire need if.. :lol:

 

[PoliticalNick]

Lt. Jonathan Josey History.. lol more ey candy for SLM... lol

History of Officer Shown Hitting Woman | NBC 10 Philadelphia



I agree, the girl was part of a group of protestors and admitted to spraying spaghetti string at police.. if you are part of the group you are as guilty as the rest of the protestors..

Gang mentality is dangerous.. just look at the Vancouver riots..

I suggest the girl puts some ice on her face and get's over it..

I suggest you let some 250lb guy punch you in the mouth from behind.....then just put a little ice on you lip & get over it. Friken moron! :roll:

Group mentality is more dangerous than a lone individual.. it was only one smack, and she stopped running away.. lol

Maybe next time she will obey the officer, not flee... or at least duck if she runs.

Each new post proves you to be more of an idiot than the last.

First, please tell me where you saw or heard the officer give her a 'lawful' order. Second, why would you think a citizen has to take 'orders' from a cop. Are you one of these dickless sheeple that thinks the govt and police are our bosses when in reality they are our servants.

Did you read this guys history... ?? PERIOD!!!

Did you read Pete Rose's history??? One mistake and he ain't ever going in the hall of fame. All it takes to ruin a career is one devastating mistake. And just how would you be reacting if she had not gotten up? What if he paralyzed her? It is not the result but the action itself that is unacceptable and unconsionable. Giving him a free pass means you give them all a free pass and I ain't doing that.

To me he sounds like a stand up guy who cares.. If you have a group of individuals attacking, it does not matter who tossed what they are all potential threats, and all guilty.

So when police are 'kettling' peaceful protesters and spraying mace everywhere you have a group of individuals attacking so they are all potential threats, guilty of assault, and the protesters are well within their rights to defend themselves...even make some arrests!

Example:

Two guts go into a bank and robs the bank, as they leave one of the robbers shoots and kills someone.. Under US law both are guilty of murder.

Bad example, courts have already made it quite clear that each individual is responsible for themselves only during a protest. Nice try to exonerate the cops from anything they might do in a protest sistuation.

The example may be reaching a little, but if you're part of a group engaged in criminal behavior, you are as guilty as the rest.

What was the criminal behavior? Protesting? Asserting a right to freedom of assembly, freedom of association, freedom of speech? Since the police were trying to deny these rights they should all be brought up on civil rights charges. Would seem to me on close examination of the facts that if the police weren't in the process of massive civil rights violations the group assembled would not have felt the need to protect their freedoms and rights and all violence and anger could have been avoided.

Respectfully, go for a ride around with a police officer to see what it's like to deal with the every day BS complait.. this guys a good cop that made an honest mistake... in a crowd of protestors and a confusing set of circumstances ....

That's why they get the big bucks and all that training. Is he probably a good guy...sure. But it is mistakes like these that ned punishing to set the example of what is acceptable standards for police actions. If you are willing to let the feds go around punching people in the mouth I suggest you put your jaw on the line for those of us that think it is not the right behavior.

If he continued to hit her, that would be different. I'd say he just knocked some sense into her, something that a few members on this thread are in dire need if.. :lol:

Speaking about yourself? There is a veteran LT from Philly who seems equipped to do the job for you.

 

[B00Mer]

What was the criminal behavior? Protesting? Asserting a right to freedom of assembly, freedom of association, freedom of speech? Since the police were trying to deny these rights they should all be brought up on civil rights charges. Would seem to me on close examination of the facts that if the police weren't in the process of massive civil rights violations the group assembled would not have felt the need to protect their freedoms and rights and all violence and anger could have been avoided

First, please tell me where you saw or heard the officer give her a 'lawful' order. Second, why would you think a citizen has to take 'orders' from a cop. Are you one of these dickless sheeple that thinks the govt and police are our bosses when in reality they are our servants.

She admitted to assaulting a few officers.. spraying them with spaghetti string...

People have lost respect for the Law, this is the very reason **** like this happens, plain and simple.

I'm guessing you're not a very big man, and got picked on as a kid, that's why you have such resentment for police and people of 250lbs and all muscle.

Bad example, courts have already made it quite clear that each individual is responsible for themselves only during a protest. Nice try to exonerate the cops from anything they might do in a protest sistuation.

Not true in the USA.. this was in the USA, try not to cite Canadian law to defend your point of view for a incident that happened in the USA.

 

[CDNBear]

Unfortunately the event is indicative of how most police react today and it is wrong.

LOL.

All out aggression is not the way to diffuse a situation and should never be the first choice but it seems that it normally is.

Is that how it's done today? lol.

Do I think some of these cops need a good dose of their own medicine, hell yeah!

But Cops aren't allowed to give protesters a dose of their own medicine. Gatchya.

Do I think the training they are given today is the biggest influence in all these situations arising recently hell yeah!

How about 19 years ago?

right, of course, how DARE they protest.

Who said that?

She sooooooo obviously deserved being smacked around by a cop.

She wasn't smacked around, she was smacked down.

oh yes, and by the way, if you had read the article you would have seen that all charges were dropped.

Common practice in situations like this.

So, in reality she did nothing wrong and was assaulted by the officer for...what....... because he's a racist pig that hates women?

No, for assaulting the Officers.

See, I can make shyte up to.

I see that. I didn't make anything up though.

 

[Ron in Regina]

She admitted to assaulting a few officers.. spraying them with spaghetti string...

People have lost respect for the Law, this is the very reason **** like this happens, plain and simple.

I'm guessing you're not a very big man, and got picked on as a kid, that's why you have such resentment for police and people of 250lbs and all muscle.

Ahhh....& the plot changes again. I didn't see this admission anywhere
yesterday as I read other sources hunting for a slow-mo version of the
video. Where did you find her admission to spraying these officers
with spaghetti string? Weird that not even the police where saying that
as of yesterday morning and where still stuck on the "water" thing.

I'm not a tiny guy myself, but I sure have an ingrained dislike for bully's.
I always have, & I'm sure I always will, be it someone twice the size of
their victim or those that need a crew to pick on one or few just rubs
me the wrong way.

 

[CDNBear]

I'm not a tiny guy myself, but I sure have an ingrained dislike for bully's.

This cop is a bully?

Seems he was under the impression she had assaulted him and his officers, as he approached she attempted to flee, he gave her a smack down.

That's not really bullying, a poor course of action, but bullying is a big stretch.

I wonder if peoples opinions would change if she were a he and had just assaulted a child, before the officer dropped him.

 

[Ron in Regina]

I wonder if peoples opinions would change if she were a he and had just assaulted a child, before the officer dropped him.

Yes, I'm sure the opinions would change, as the she (now a he) would be twice
the size of the child (see the pattern) that she/he would'a just assaulted...and
then being dropped would have been justice.

This cop is a bully?

Seems he was under the impression she had assaulted him and his officers, as he approached she attempted to flee, he gave her a smack down.

That's not really bullying, a poor course of action, but bullying is a big stretch.

And there is the rub. I haven't hunted down Boomers claim above (as I'm moving slowly
still this morning and more than a little hung over still at this point) that this woman now
is admitting too something that neither she, not the police, nor the media mentioned
as of yesterday afternoon.

From the video's (plural) in this Thread so far, it became clear that this woman didn't
throw the water that was the claimed justification for her punch in the mouth. Without
the above confession that I still haven't found elsewhere yet....this Officier gave the
'smack down' to the wrong person, who didn't throw this water, and who happened to
be less than 1/2 of his mass....& I agree that was a very poor course of action.

My opinion here will change if someone can post this womans admission mentioned
above by Boomer. Until that point, I'm not seeing an Officer defending his people, but
a guy double this womans size abusing his authority. Please change my opinion.

 

[CDNBear]

Yes, I'm sure the opinions would change, as the she (now a he) would be twice
the size of the child (see the pattern) that she/he would'a just assaulted...and
then being dropped would have been justice.

But it's irrelevant. Assault is assault. The size, age or gender of the victim, the manner of assault, means nothing, it's assault.

From the video's (plural) in this Thread so far, it became clear that this woman didn't
throw the water that was the claimed justification for her punch in the mouth.

Regardless of the facts after the fact. The officer was under the impression she was the one that threw the water. He did mouth something, but I can't hear what he said, she was attempting to get away, he struck her.

Hitting her in the face may have perhaps been a poor choice on his part, but he was still under the impression that she was the assailant.

Lucky for us, not involved and days later, we have the luxury of a video to aid in our decision making.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Lucky for us, not involved and days later, we have the luxury of a video to aid in our decision making.

I agree completely. I would'a shot my own but I was tied up elsewhere.

But it's irrelevant. Assault is assault. The size, age or gender of the victim, the manner of assault, means nothing, it's assault.

Regardless of the facts after the fact. The officer was under the impression she was the one that threw the water. He did mouth something, but I can't hear what he said, she was attempting to get away, he struck her.

Hitting her in the face may have perhaps been a poor choice on his part, but he was still under the impression that she was the assailant.

...and here, I also agree completely. Assault is assault. We do have the advantage of
being Monday Morning Quarterbacks though only with a brief, edited video with no
sound. As I watched it again a few more times, try'n to see details that I might have
missed earlier, I spotted something I didn't see before.

When the woman is crossing, from left to right, in the crosswalk, and an arm comes
into the frame from the left (arm in a black long sleived shirt) that splashes the water
from a water bottle....not only does it splash onto some of the police, but much of it
hits this woman on the backside of her. That's when she turns around and proceeds
to go back left while looking back towards where the water came from.

I'm sure the Officer in white yells something at that point, but she doesn't look back at
him until he's almost upon her. Anything beyond that is just assumtions on my part.

I believe at this point we're entering the realm of the third gunman on the
grassy knoll sort'a thing.

 

[karrie]

US police are notorious for excessive force. This is just yet another fine example. That officer didn't need to pop her in the face, period. An officer who has to drop a tiny little latina in order to do his job, should have his ability to do that job reevaluated.

 

[B00Mer]

[youtube]MT7nOkw4bj0[/youtube]

Here is your silly string admission.. thank you good bye.

 

[captain morgan]

US police are notorious for excessive force. This is just yet another fine example. That officer didn't need to pop her in the face, period. An officer who has to drop a tiny little latina in order to do his job, should have his ability to do that job reevaluated.

None of this would have happened if the individual in question had not made the decision to disobey the law.

Reprimand the officer as per police policy and the law, but not charging this lady with all of the offenses she committed will simply result in the authorities having an even tougher time doing their job in the future

 

[B00Mer]

Also here is a better video that has not been edited to just show the officer hitting her, you can see the women throwing stuff as then backs off..

[youtube]JDx5t7S-1Qw[/youtube]

 

[Ron in Regina]

[youtube]MT7nOkw4bj0[/youtube]

Here is your silly string admission.. thank you good bye.

Thank You!

 

[karrie]

None of this would have happened if the individual in question had not made the decision to disobey the law.

Reprimand the officer as per police policy and the law, but not charging this lady with all of the offenses she committed will simply result in the authorities having an even tougher time doing their job in the future

I don't know what the law is surrounding police and silly string. Frankly, I don't really care. The end result of this altercation is what it is.

It sounds like they made a deal anyway... all her lawyer is asking for is a public apology.. she must have dropped her potential lawsuit in return for her charges disappearing.

 

[B00Mer]

The Philly Police firing this officer is reacting to the media... if they start pulling more video feed, I bet you it might tell a different story and show the woman if more responsible for her "knock down" than everyone is saying..

We are only seeing a 30 second video of the incident, longer video's are being posted now and it's starting to show a different view of what actually happened. Showing the young lady as tragic as the smack down was to her, sorta brought it on herself.

 

[CDNBear]

I don't know what the law is surrounding police and silly string.

It's called assault.

We are only seeing a 30 second video of the incident, longer video's are being posted now and it's starting to show a different view of what actually happened. Showing the young lady as tragic as the smack down was to her, sorta brought it on herself.

From what I've seen, it would appear the Officers had detained a gentleman, and the revelers took issue with that, and began to harass and assault the officers while performing their duty.

Obstruction of justice.
Interfering with a peace officer.
Assault.
Assault on a peace officer.

 

[karrie]

It's called assault.

That may be the case Bear, but it's an intellectual insult to say that silly string justifies the response that occurred. If he can not do his job without that level of violence, he needs to be finding a new job. The police in the US, and well let's be honest, North America, are escalating the level of violence they routinely use against the citizenry, and as a result, the citizenry are escalating their anger with the police.... it's a powder keg. It shouldn't be continuing in this downward spiral, and at some point police forces are going to have to step up and make it clear that just because legal wordings put what she did, and what he did, in the same category, doesn't excuse them from their actions.

 

[CDNBear]

That may be the case Bear, but it's an intellectual insult to say that silly string justifies the response that occurred.

I think I said it was a poor choice of action.

None the less, it's still assault. If we wanted to get technical actually, is assault by administering a noxious substance, in Canadian law.