Time to Close the Borders in North America?

[Machjo]

Are you calling me Ignorant? My muslim friends here in my office are in COMPLETE agreement with my position. They as well see whats is happening with the mindsets towards the west. And you dont?

THATS over and above ignorant.. Thats rose coloured glasses and a head someplace other

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Beyond linguistic distinctions, there is actually very few differences between Islam and Muslim.​

Definition of Islam and Muslim

• Islam : the meaning comes from the Arabic verbal noun (like a gerund) s-l-m. When appropriate vowel markers are added the word Islam appears. The etymology of s-l-m is to submit, accept, or surrender. From this comes Islam’s conventional definition of surrender to God.
• Muslim : also has its roots in the s-l-m verb. It is a participle of the verb and refers to a person who engages in the act of submission, acceptance, or surrender. Therefore a Muslim is a person who submits to the will of God, or a follower of Islam.

Or, you can continue to read "The Star's" version of this...

Yes, I know. Also related to Salam and Shalom in Hebrew.

And I did not say Islam, but Islamist.

 

[darkbeaver]

Theists can be nice people too.

 

[Fletch]

And i love peanuts! And they cant attend school in Canada! We need to follow the "peanut model". "Sorry peanut, you cant kill here".... Go ahead and kill yourselves in the peanut-patch..

Theists can be nice people too.

 

[Bar Sinister]

I suggest you simply wait for it. If you think it isn't going to manifest itself in the very same manner as in other countries, you are sadly mistaken. We get time to breathe based on one thing, and one thing only, organizational strength.

The more radical ones need just a bit more time to force the moderates into a fear motivated frenzy in Canada but it will happen as surely as summer follows spring.

Not going to happen. Muslims in Canada are among the most integrated in the world. Hell, we even have Canadian Muslims playing hockey at the NHL level. Though, I suppose if you work hard enough at stirring up religious and ethnic hatred you might eventually get a stronger reaction.

 

[Fletch]

Send your note to the "Toronto 17 Terrorist group" planning attacks within Canada, And the 2 temples in Brampton that were convicted of inciting hatred.. Or the group of Islamist that were just recently pushing the Provincial AND Federal government for their own form of Sharia Law to abide by. Ya, Rose coloured glasses dude...

Not going to happen. Muslims in Canada are among the most integrated in the world. Hell, we even have Canadian Muslims playing hockey at the NHL level. Though, I suppose if you work hard enough at stirring up religious and ethnic hatred you might eventually get a stronger reaction.

 

[Durry]

Muslims in Canada are among the most integrated in the world. .

What official proof do you have to support this statement?

 

[L Gilbert]

No, no you don't.

So how do we tell the good Muslims from the bad, Ton?

Point Coldslime & Colpy at them with a few nukes. Poof! No more Moslems, no more problem. lol

 

[darkbeaver]

What unites all Canadians?

I've addressed this question to Americans inquiring what unites Americans, and I've never received a cogent answer. With the ideal of assimilation being dead in America, there apparently is nothing which unites all Americans. Multiculturalism means separate identities and separate consciousness. Multiculturalism means separate tribes. Separation leads to division and the end of social cohesion.

Division leads to diversity, diversity leads to innovation, going forward, innovation leads to three or more completely different cheeze burger platters and your choice of sugar laced toxic soft on your head drink. Poor diet and dead brain cells unite most of the population of Greater America.

 

[Tonington]

So how do we tell the good Muslims from the bad, Ton?

The same way we tell good Christians from bad Christians, or good Britons from bad Britons, or good men from bad men. We won't catch them all, but for me once someone begins justifying this type of behaviour, well it's just too damned similar to this:

First they came... - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

While you're busy telling us how you think this is a stupid idea why not tell us how treating them as we have has helped "ally" them to our side of the equation?

Have you heard of the Libyans who tried to help the US ambassador? How does treating moderates-who will help you, who will work with you-like the fundamentalist radicals in any way help? If you want progress, then you need allies to work with there. If you think it's a good idea to treat people who are willing to help you like criminals because of guilt by association, then I'm calling your idea stupid. If you have difficulty comprehending this, well then maybe it's not just the idea that is stupid...

You don't/can't ally yourself with a religion that purports to describe all who do not believe as infidels and worthy of irradication.

Sure you can. You simply don't ally yourself with those who interpret their religion as your above statement suggests. If you don't think they're out there, then you're just plainly ignorant.

 

[Bar Sinister]

What official proof do you have to support this statement?

I actually live in Canada and mix with other Canadians, some of whom are Muslims and who seem to hold beliefs amazingly similar to mine. So do you, although you are probably too chauvinistic to realize it. Of course, you could be living in a closet in fear of the next terrorist attack and be having all of your needs delivered by courier. Better watch out though - the pizza delivery guy might be a Muslim.

Send your note to the "Toronto 17 Terrorist group" planning attacks within Canada, And the 2 temples in Brampton that were convicted of inciting hatred.. Or the group of Islamist that were just recently pushing the Provincial AND Federal government for their own form of Sharia Law to abide by. Ya, Rose coloured glasses dude...

I am not concerned with tiny fringe groups that in no way reflect the opinions of the vast majority of Muslims. Singling these idiots out as examples while ignoring groups like the Christian Heritage Front is nitpicking in the extreme. I said, there will be no destructive Muslim demonstrations in Canada happen and so far I am right. Read my original post because that is what I was referring to. And while you are at it, find some evidence that I am wrong - dude.

 

[Fletch]

Soooo, In your opinion then you would agree with the Islamists that Kill in the name of Mohammad because of a Cartoon or movie made of him? If they are Intollerant of free speach and the rights of others, do you want them here?

What if a Nut-Job living in Ontario,, Created a life sized dummy of Mohammad and filmed the act of sodomy on this replica and then burnt the dummy afterwards wrapped in pages of the Koran and THEN posted it on "You-Tube".. WHAT exactly do you think the response would be over-seas? As in last week, do you REALLY think that HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS are a "Fringe"??

YEs, You are very astute in your fortune telling.... I may add that as of 1.5 years ago, there we NO such uproars and killings in Egypt!

Now mosey on with your "soft spot" for the ";ittle guy"... But when the Little guy wants to behead one of your relatives or neighbors,, Dont come knocking on my door..

I actually live in Canada and mix with other Canadians, some of whom are Muslims and who seem to hold beliefs amazingly similar to mine. So do you, although you are probably too chauvinistic to realize it. Of course, you could be living in a closet in fear of the next terrorist attack and be having all of your needs delivered by courier. Better watch out though - the pizza delivery guy might be a Muslim.



I am not concerned with tiny fringe groups that in no way reflect the opinions of the vast majority of Muslims. Singling these idiots out as examples while ignoring groups like the Christian Heritage Front is nitpicking in the extreme. I said, there will be no destructive Muslim demonstrations in Canada happen and so far I am right. Read my original post because that is what I was referring to. And while you are at it, find some evidence that I am wrong - dude.

 

[BruSan]

Not going to happen. Muslims in Canada are among the most integrated in the world. Hell, we even have Canadian Muslims playing hockey at the NHL level. Though, I suppose if you work hard enough at stirring up religious and ethnic hatred you might eventually get a stronger reaction.

I did say wait for it, did I not? Integrated my azz. We all fail to understand the non-religion of Islam. It isn't simply a religion nor anything like any religion we've ever encountered before.

 

[darkbeaver]

I did say wait for it, did I not? Integrated my azz. We all fail to understand the non-religion of Islam. It isn't simply a religion nor anything like any religion we've ever encountered before.

Every possible religious perversion was practiced again and again long before Islam became. You simply haven't encountered the truth.

 

[BruSan]

Every possible religious perversion was practiced again and again long before Islam became. You simply haven't encountered the truth.

Aaah yes, the truth. That which we are not hearing a lot of in any discussions about Islam.

So please be so kind to tell me how hearing the truth about all religions will change my mind and reveal the truth about this non-religion?


Good luck with your mission, should you choose to accept it.

 

[darkbeaver]

Aaah yes, the truth. That which we are not hearing a lot of in any discussions about Islam.

So please be so kind to tell me how hearing the truth about all religions will change my mind and reveal the truth about this non-religion?


Good luck with your mission, should you choose to accept it.

Aaah yes the truth. That which YOU are not hearing any of in the discussion about Islam. We hear it all. Your contention that Islam invented intolerance is just dumb. I bet you're popular in high school.

 

[CDNBear]

That which YOU are not hearing any of in the discussion about Islam.

Well not in your posts anyways.

 

[BruSan]

Aaah yes the truth. That which YOU are not hearing any of in the discussion about Islam. We hear it all. Your contention that Islam invented intolerance is just dumb. I bet you're popular in high school.

Of course Islam didn't invent intolerance; they merely PERFECTED it! And the truth about any and all religions is spoken quite often by many; including those on these forums today but you're not listening as it doesn't fit your "I'm smarter than you are" persona.

Why yes thank you; I was popular in high school 50 years ago. Strange how you'd know that from just a couple of posts; must be a psychotic or something.

 

[darkbeaver]

Well not in your posts anyways.

Yer an honorary Israeli ain't you bear? Those who work to save the damned go with them.

 

[CDNBear]

Yer an honorary Israeli ain't you bear?

Nope.

Those who work to save the damned go with them.

I know, I know. You're all hot and horny waiting for that mushroom cloud over Tel Aviv.

 

[darkbeaver]

Of course Islam didn't invent intolerance; they merely PERFECTED it! And the truth about any and all religions is spoken quite often by many; including those on these forums today but you're not listening as it doesn't fit your "I'm smarter than you are" persona.

Why yes thank you; I was popular in high school 50 years ago. Strange how you'd know that from just a couple of posts; must be a psychotic or something.

Intolerance can't be perfected. But you're are right, I do have an I'm smarter than you are thing and an or something. So you are an elderly person then? I'm completely befuddled by your youthful ignorance.