Time to Close the Borders in North America?

[Bar Sinister]

Ya, if we were getting all existential up in this thread, sure, lol.

We aren't, so lets stick to reality.

Well of course that's how you would see it, especially after your ensuing little dance with terminology, lol.

And their destructive power didn't become anything worth note, until they were backed by Imperial expansionism and military power, lol.

Ah yes, telling me about my own history, lol.

That idiotic claim might have some merit, if one of two thing had occurred previously...

1, I said the Church never had contact or influence.
2, We were actually talking about early contact and influence of the Church on First Nations.

We weren't.

I'm glad I could help you stick to the conversation there. You really have a problem with sticking to what's in peoples posts. This isn't the first time you've had this problem.

A strong influence doesn't automatically equate into Duncan' vision of assimilation and destruction.

Well, if I ignore the fact that the Conquistadors didn't organize, fund or lead the mission, ok, you have a point, lmao!

In the pursuit of riches first, and souls second, lol.

South America was conquered for its riches.

Hey you started this exchange. If you lack the knowledge to answer intelligently it is not my fault. I suggest you do a little reading into Spanish and Portuguese history. From about the 12th century on they were involved in a three hundred year religious war. Thje fact that it was also profitable was simply a handy coincident. Given the fanaticism of European Catholicism it would almost certainly have continued whether it was profitable or not. In fact if you read the history of the Hapsburg Empire one of the major reasons given for its eventual decline was that it was bled dry by religious wars.

I note you made no attempt to refute my examples of missionary work in Asia and Africa, no doubt because you can't. In fact missionaries generally preceded economic and military expansion into these areas in almost very case.

BTW addling lol to every statement doesn't make your posts come across as any more intelligent. In fact it comes across as the written equivalent of nervous laughter, lol - see what I mean?

 

[Fletch]

I dont need a "History Lesson" here. Why dont you look in the news for "real time" data like the Protest in Toronto that involves 1200 Islamists protesting the video and demanding "ree speack" be amended to eliminate any reference to Mohammad!? My question to you then is, should we make an amendment to Free speack and all the benefits that have come from it? Ya, its only 1200 people.. Now i wonder if it will snow-ball into deaths? Maybe not this week, the next?

Seems your ok with eliminating free speach? Changing it? Or eliminating it?
Will you be ok with one death or maybe more?

In CANADA they were calling for the DEATH of the idiot Directed the little movie! "We want to Kill this guy".. (Please see what is called "recent news" and not a history lesson below)

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2012/09/20120923-071514.html

Hey you started this exchange. If you lack the knowledge to answer intelligently it is not my fault. I suggest you do a little reading into Spanish and Portuguese history. From about the 12th century on they were involved in a three hundred year religious war. Thje fact that it was also profitable was simply a handy coincident. Given the fanaticism of European Catholicism it would almost certainly have continued whether it was profitable or not. In fact if you read the history of the Hapsburg Empire one of the major reasons given for its eventual decline was that it was bled dry by religious wars.

I note you made no attempt to refute my examples of missionary work in Asia and Africa, no doubt because you can't. In fact missionaries generally preceded economic and military expansion into these areas in almost very case.

BTW addling lol to every statement doesn't make your posts come across as any more intelligent. In fact it comes across as the written equivalent of nervous laughter, lol - see what I mean?

 

[#juan]

I watched that bloody film and the quality is so poor I am astonished that people
would be up in arms about it. Insulting? I don't know how. Is somebody inferring that
the poor quality of the film is intentionally related somehow to the quality of Muslim people?
That is a leap.

 

[L Gilbert]

Religious freaks are religious freaks, regardless of the religion. Stating numbers does not change that fact. In a lot of cases, the more dedicated a person is to their religion, the more likely they are to be an extremist. For the members of one faith to bash another religion's members for perpetrating violence is foolish when some of their own religion's members have also perped violence.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/relviol.htm

 

[Bar Sinister]

I dont need a "History Lesson" here.

Why not? Then you might have at least a minimal understanding of history.

Seems your ok with eliminating free speach? Changing it? Or eliminating it?
Will you be ok with one death or maybe more?

Really. You are getting desperate aren't you? You are getting to the point where your posts aren't even worth a reply. Nowhere in any of my posts did I make any comments suggesting I support death and violence. My point is and has always been that there will be no violent Muslim protests in Canada. Your source seems to confirm that.

If you are actually looking for violent protests in Canada you have to look to the recent student demonstrations in Quebec and the Stanley Cup riots in Vancouver two years ago. Nothing Muslims have done approach either of those two events.

BTW I note you chose to ignore those Muslims in the demonstration who advocated peaceful protest. I also note you don't seem to have a clue about what freedom of speech actually is. To quote you one more time: Seems your ok with eliminating free speach? Changing it? Or eliminating it? In light of what the peaceful Muslim protest actually was, your comments make no sense.

 

[#juan]

If you are actually looking for violent protests in Canada you have to look to the recent student demonstrations in Quebec and the Stanley Cup riots in Vancouver two years ago. Nothing Muslims have done approach either of those two events.

I wonder how many people were beheaded during Quebec student demonstration and in Vancouver during the Stanley Cup riots

 

[CDNBear]

Don't ya just love high school history grads that think they know it all and in fact know nothing?

Actually, BS is usually pretty good, but his knowledge seems selective.

Hey you started this exchange.

Wow, given the fancy dancing, I'm surprised you knew that.

If you lack the knowledge to answer intelligently it is not my fault.

Ah yes, I must be deficient, because you moved goal posts, changed your terminology.

I suggest you do a little reading into Spanish and Portuguese history. From about the 12th century on they were involved in a three hundred year religious war. Thje fact that it was also profitable was simply a handy coincident. Given the fanaticism of European Catholicism it would almost certainly have continued whether it was profitable or not. In fact if you read the history of the Hapsburg Empire one of the major reasons given for its eventual decline was that it was bled dry by religious wars.

I suggest you stick to your original claims and stop trying to shuffle around, laughing nervously.

I note you made no attempt to refute my examples of missionary work in Asia and Africa, no doubt because you can't.

Of course not. You moved the goal posts and changed your terminology.

A weak fallacy, but not surprising. It isn't the first time you've employed the use of fallacy to escape admitting error.

In fact missionaries generally preceded economic and military expansion into these areas in almost very case.

No doubt, lol.

BTW addling lol to every statement doesn't make your posts come across as any more intelligent.

That's not why they're there, though. That's me laughing at your nonsense, use of fallacy, changing of terminology and otherwise silly behavior, lol.

In fact it comes across as the written equivalent of nervous laughter, lol - see what I mean?

Yes, you do seem nervous.

Is that because you shot your mouth off? Or because you got caught shuffling the goal posts?