Saskatchewan Labour Shortage "Worst in History".

damngrumpy

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First of all it is good to see a Province doing well, but then Saskatchewan has
always had stable government for the most part with the exception of the Divine
years.
yes there have been ups and downs but basically the people of Saskatchewan
have had good government.
The problem is this government has set in motion development without a real
plan and that has consequences in the long term. Uncontrolled development
is often worse than no development. This too shall pass, as it were the up and
down nature of resource industries has a habit of correcting itself abruptly.
Brad Wall is not a bad guy, he is a populist conservative which is not the best
but its not the social conservative whack job group like the BC Conservative Party.
The real test for Saskatchewan will come if the slow down comes and there is no
attempt to diversify the nature of the economy. A slowdown with a resource
economy only would be devastating because there would be an influx of population
with no jobs. That is not good for anyone.
 

petros

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What are they paying for Gopher tails these days?
You'll have the Radio Flyer you've always wanted in no time at all.

First of all it is good to see a Province doing well, but then Saskatchewan has
always had stable government for the most part with the exception of the Divine
years.
yes there have been ups and downs but basically the people of Saskatchewan
have had good government.
The problem is this government has set in motion development without a real
plan and that has consequences in the long term. Uncontrolled development
is often worse than no development. This too shall pass, as it were the up and
down nature of resource industries has a habit of correcting itself abruptly.
Brad Wall is not a bad guy, he is a populist conservative which is not the best
but its not the social conservative whack job group like the BC Conservative Party.
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It's was Calvert who got the ball rolling with resoure developement not Wall.
 

darkbeaver

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You're not much of an industrial mechanic if you want a desk position.

Poseur deluxe.

The efficient industrial mechanic always seeks elevation above the trenches. Actually I just want money for nothin and my chicks for free.
I got a very bad knee and I,m old, no more dragging motors over catwalks for me.
 

Machjo

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So if Ontario social security were smart, it would find out what trades and professions are in demand in Sask, provide free training for the unemployed in those fields, then tell the companies all they have to do is pay transportation and room and board for until the first paycheck. If they agree to that, cut their social security premiums (barring special circumstances of course, but any able-bodied and able-minded single person with no dependents, absolutely!).
 

captain morgan

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The time lag between training a heavy duty mechanic and getting them into a productive position is pretty long... That suggestion is great for long term ops, but does nothing to deal with the needs today
 

taxslave

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The efficient industrial mechanic always seeks elevation above the trenches. Actually I just want money for nothin and my chicks for free.
I got a very bad knee and I,m old, no more dragging motors over catwalks for me.

That's what apprentices are for.

Is there a shortage of workers in BC?

No. The ferries are government workers unions. So the cafeteria staff get almost tradesman pay for rotten ronnies quality food and service. Somewhat better on the big boats where White Spot runs the cafeteria but not much.
 

Machjo

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The time lag between training a heavy duty mechanic and getting them into a productive position is pretty long... That suggestion is great for long term ops, but does nothing to deal with the needs today

At least it could solve the long-term problem. In the short-term, how about Canada sign labour-movement agreements with other countries so as to further reduce the red tape in hiring foreign workers.

This combination would help to deal with both the short and long-term labour shortages.
 

petros

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Machjo

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I can agree to a more open international labour market, as long as it include job training for the domestic unemployed too. But an open labour market should be intended as a supplementary solution and not as a replacement for providing the unemployed with the skills they need for the jobs the market needs.

Also, another way Saskatchewan can cool down its overheating economy is by tax increases, reduced government spending, or a combination of the two. This would also give the Saskatchewan government a chance to pay off its debts.
 

petros

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Oh there is all the training anyone could possibly hope for.

Cool off the eonomy? Our debts? Our debts are nothing compared to other provinces. $500 Million or something minor like that. This place is very well run.
 

Machjo

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Oh there is all the training anyone could possibly hope for.

Cool off the eonomy? Our debts? Our debts are nothing compared to other provinces. $500 Million or something minor like that. This place is very well run.

Well, if you have a labour shortage, then you do have an overheated economy. One solution is to bring in more workers, and that's where international labour agreements could help. Another is to raise taxes and/or reduce government spending.

Yes the Saskatchewan debt is pretty good, but why not bring it down to 0?

I'm not disputing that Sask is well run, but merely how it could be even better run.

And if the govt is training its unemployed, congrats. But why is Ontario not training its unemployed for the jobs Sask needs? Or if the concern is with Ontario subsidizing the Sask economy by doing so, that's what transfer payments are for right. So there is no reason Ontario should not train its unemployed for jobs in Sask.