Nunavut families to protest high food costs where whole chicken costs $65

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If I go to my local grocery store in Toronto, pick a clump of bananas, some OJ, and a loaf of bread can you explain where and how that is subsidized?
Are any of those items grown and processed in Toronto? How did they get there and why are they cheaper than rural? Just logistics? How does adding a couple hundred km to a mango from 10,00km awa justify a 100% increase?
 

TenPenny

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Things should be comparable in any community that can land a 747 on their airstrip up there but they arent.Prices in Yellowknife are fairly good yet in Rankin inlet prices are outragous.They both can land 747s and planes are allways loaded to the max.
I think the northern store and others use their monopoly to keep the prices high.

I guess you should open a grocery store up north.
 

Kakato

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I guess you should open a grocery store up north.
With all the mines opening up there will be lots of competition soon.Bakers got Meadowbank mine,Rankin has my old melidianne project opening soon,and Cambridge bay also has about 5 mines opening also.

Most peeps up there dont make very good money unless in a mine and jobs elsewhere are scarce.
 

CDNBear

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The NWT is just another extention of that model unless somebody can show me where the actual subsidy is. I don't see it.
From import trade agreements with South American countries via CIDA to transportation subsidies.

I'm not sure to what products these subsidies are applied. But I do know they exist. It was pointed out by Canuck in a thread on here somewhere. I just tried to find it, but couldn't.
 

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The NWT is just another extention of that model unless somebody can show me where the actual subsidy is. I don't see it.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/time-to-lead/the-growing-problem-canada-slips-from-agricultural-superpower-status/article1316188/

http://www.wspa.ca/latestnews/2012/Experts-challenge-sustainability-of-canadas-food-system.aspx

BTW Krapato, here's a bit about the "gov't sent people north to see what the food problem was and they realised a problem but that was all that happened" crap you mentioned: http://www.aadnc-aandc.gc.ca/eng/1100100015859
Just because you are too f'n snowblind to see anything but dozers, choppers, planes, and snow, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
 

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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/time-to-lead/the-growing-problem-canada-slips-from-agricultural-superpower-status/article1316188/

http://www.wspa.ca/latestnews/2012/Experts-challenge-sustainability-of-canadas-food-system.aspx

BTW Krapato, here's a bit about the "gov't sent people north to see what the food problem was and they realised a problem but that was all that happened" crap you mentioned: http://www.aadnc-aandc.gc.ca/eng/1100100015859
Just because you are too f'n snowblind to see anything but dozers, choppers, planes, and snow, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.


I have shopped there many times,allways a shortage and allways very expensive,I dont need a study to show me that.I saw it with my own eyes.The baker lake northern store outfits dozens of exploration camps,that also puts a strain on stock.
 

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Are any of those items grown and processed in Toronto? How did they get there and why are they cheaper than rural? Just logistics? How does adding a couple hundred km to a mango from 10,00km awa justify a 100% increase?

Well, they can be shipped here by rail, air or truck whichever is the cheapest. And if they are being imported, they are probably coming first here anyways. So whatever shipping cost to Toronto is in whatever price (unless it goes through Vancouver). The said bananas probably come here, some get sent to local Toronto stores by truck (cheaper than by air). Others get sent outward to distribution. All costs will be recovered by the people delivering. Perhaps the cost of having a depot in Toronto is divided over the 500 shipments in a given week so it doesn't add up. But take the cost of the depot for one flight / week, and your costs are higher.

This is not subsidies, just logistics. If they distribution point for Canada was in Nunavut, the opposite would likely be true but it does not make economic sense for this model to happen.
 

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From import trade agreements with South American countries via CIDA to transportation subsidies.

I'm not sure to what products these subsidies are applied. But I do know they exist. It was pointed out by Canuck in a thread on here somewhere. I just tried to find it, but couldn't.

But this would be applied to all Canadian food regardless of where it is consumed would it not?
 

CDNBear

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But this would be applied to all Canadian food regardless of where it is consumed would it not?
Yes. As I mentioned earlier, the import and production subsidies are applicable to goods available to all Canadians, while there are tax credit subsidies applicable only to those that live in the north.

I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with you in the first place bud.