The speakers havent been very good at controlling the MPs for years. They refuse to do anything about it even though they have plenty of powers that they can use.
Nazi Salute in Parliament????
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The speakers havent been very good at controlling the MPs for years. They refuse to do anything about it even though they have plenty of powers that they can use.
Absolutely Goobs.. Why, it's common knowledge that the Libs, NDP, Bloc, et al are shinning examples of integrity, respect and good governance.
Now, just so you know, I am not saying this because of a possible endorsement deal involving brown paper bags and cash, absolutely not.
Did I mention that I recently organized a PayPal account?
Just one point to make.
If a person raised his hand quickly at a certain angle and someone else was looking peripherally, it could potlentially look like a Nazi salute.
I'm not saying the accusation is necessarily false, but just exploring the possibilities.
If a person raised his hand quickly at a certain angle and someone else was looking peripherally, it could potlentially look like a Nazi salute.
I'm not saying the accusation is necessarily false, but just exploring the possibilities.
Hear, hear! You are so right! This isn't just another display of the desk thumping trained seals but a complete outrageous display of disconnect with all things right and proper for elected members.
We cannot expect this comedic theatre to ever change if we continue to overlook these types of transgressions by our elected members. We put them there and we should demand better behaviour from them. I don't care which side of the house repugnant behaviour comes from. The speaker should set the tone and roundly censure them for this crap.
Off to bed without any supper is what mom and dad would have done. To do even less makes a mockery of veterans and those lying in graves all over Europe. Heidi Frey et-al should know this without being told. There's other, more acceptable, ways to call Harper a "dick-tater".
Really, honor and tradition.
When the Conservatives haven't been shutting Parliament down altogether, they've been acting in some pretty sleazy ways to derail debate and circumvent the electoral system.
Neither the Conservatives nor the Liberals represent real respect for our democratic system.
We need a government that sets a positive tone made up of people that act like adults, not spoiled children. We already have a good opposition, it would make an excellent government.
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Personally, if I had to put up with Harpo's anti democratic BS day in and day out, I would probably have given him that salute.
If the shoe fits wear it, you can't be one of most undemocratic PMs in our history and then complain when people treat you that way.
Possible that Mulcair will attract a number of Red Tories due to his actions- promises -
Now it has yet to be determined whether there really was a Nazi salute; but to actually defend the act if it did happen is dispicable. You don't give out Nazi salutes in Parliament, full stop.
If an MP did indeed do that, there ought to be disciplinary action unless he apologize pronto, and even then a sanction of some kind might still ba appropriate.
He's still to the left of most red tories I'm sure.
You might find a few red tories on the right fringes of the Green Party, but even there they certainly won't represent the mainstream Green Party.
If an MP did indeed do that, there ought to be disciplinary action unless he apologize pronto, and even then a sanction of some kind might still ba appropriate.
He's still to the left of most red tories I'm sure.
You might find a few red tories on the right fringes of the Green Party, but even there they certainly won't represent the mainstream Green Party.
If I was a remotely responsible Conservative MP I'd be demanding better leadership, it's Steven Harper that has turned our Parliament into the silly playground it now is. He had the chance to change things starting in 2006 but took the easy way out.
We have less accountability, less transparency and less democracy now. He may not be a Nazi, but he sure doesn't represent the kind of Canada that I grew up with.
I expect over time there will be considerable blow back on some of these changes.
Then we have the law of unintended consequences-
Oh yes- and then all the regulatory changes- We saw the after effects under Harris in Ontario.
Does anyone think that a ton of thought and research went into each of these regulatory changes- Doubt it.
Our house is our political forum, there's little doubt that the actions of our current PM have altered significantly how it operates, often in a negative way. While I don't support them, you can make the argument that the Liberal MPs who may have made this gesture were behaving in the same spirit that our PM has been acting in the last six years. Since when is it democractic to deny important information that will allow voters to make the best decision as the Conservatives have been caught doing repreatedly, or stretching or breaking election laws to gain advantage.
Respect flows both ways, our PM shows us little while demanding much. He may not be a little Hitler, but he doesn't represent true democratic principles either.
Respect flows both ways, our PM shows us little while demanding much. He may not be a little Hitler, but he doesn't represent true democratic principles either.
When Harper starts having people killed for opposing him, then I'll agree with you. I don't particularly care for most of what he's doing either. But to compare him to a Nazi is just plain stupid.
Let me guess; had Harper forced through legislation that was parallel to your logic on the environment, you'd have no b*itches whatsoever on 'the democratic process', would you?
Fact is, Harper's policies aren't what you seek and therefore he is bad and the democratic system is flawed... It's always the same way with people like you - get what you want and it's a reflection of the successful tradition of democracy but don't get what you want, and you holler of dictatorships and totalitarian regimes.
Sadly, it's all too predictable