Dad beats daughter’s alleged molester to death

hermanntrude

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you guys are making a number of assumptions that just cannot be made:

1) that you know what happened
2) that you know what you would do if it happened to you
3) that there is a "correct" course of action to take in such events
4) that it's any of our business
 

lone wolf

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you guys are making a number of assumptions that just cannot be made:

1) that you know what happened
2) that you know what you would do if it happened to you
3) that there is a "correct" course of action to take in such events
4) that it's any of our business
Actually.... I DO know what I did - regardless of any correct course of action. There wasn't time to wait for heat.

That's one of the times justice comes in a swift hand.
 

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I don't know for sure what I would do, but I do know how I reacted when another kid spit on my daughter. So I'm assuming it would be similar.

As for whether it's 'any of our business', are you saying that society should not be concerned with crime? We should just ignore what goes on in the world? We should not be concerned with anyone else's well being?
 

CDNBear

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Debate is about attacking a person's ideas, rather than them personally. That doesn't happen that much on this forum anymore. Its become mostly a forum for insults and taunts.
I tried attacking your ideas with the facts, you ignored them. You attempted to insult anyone that doesn't swallow your propaganda verbatim by pejoratively calling them an Israeli apologist, or supporter of war crimes and crimes against humanity.

You can pretend that that isn't meant as a personal attack all you want. But in the end it only shows your hypocrisy and double standards.

As I have said many times, and proven many times over, you aren't here for debate or discussion. You are here to preach and nothing more.

The bulk of the core membership, can discussion topics until the cows come home, and never have an issue. The truly honest can even concede when proven wrong.

That doesn't include you.

Oddly enough, it includes all those you cry about.

was that ever done in real life?
Yep. It's the one of two reasons I buy two sets of broadheads and arrows. One set for practice, one set for hunting.
 

karrie

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I can understand why he did it if he's telling the truth. I imagine I'd want to do the same, but killing the guy is a bit over the top.

The paper didn't say he intended to kill the guy, just that he hit him a few times, and it will take an autopsy to determine why he died.
 

CDNBear

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The paper didn't say he intended to kill the guy, just that he hit him a few times, and it will take an autopsy to determine why he died.
Just a question Karrie, but if you heard one of your daughters screaming, and found some guy on her, or what have you.

What would your reaction be?
 

karrie

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Just a question Karrie, but if you heard one of your daughters screaming, and found some guy on her, or what have you.

What would your reaction be?

I suspect my response would have been exactly what this man's were *if* the facts I've gleaned from the article are indeed the facts as they happened. As a parent, you have every right to beat an attacker you find physically abusing your child. Your child's safety, rescuing your child from that man, is your genetic, moral, and personal responsibility.

Now... intentionally causing death is too far. But as I've read this article, nothing says he intended to cause death. He attacked someone who was in the act of attacking his child. Pretty cut and dry.

she would turn into carrie.;)

carrie ain't got nothing on me.
 

karrie

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As a woman, one crucial part of my perspective, is that cases like this are exactly why women like me have hidden molestation... because we didn't trust that if we came forward, we wouldn't lose our fathers to criminal charges over their reactions to finding out. It's important for fathers to make their daughters feel protected, but make it clear that they can come forward without dad running off to kill someone. Not that the dad 'ran off' to kill someone in this case, but it reinforces the fear in girls and women, that bringing molestation to light, will destroy their family.
 

CDNBear

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As a woman, one crucial part of my perspective, is that cases like this are exactly why women like me have hidden molestation... because we didn't trust that if we came forward, we wouldn't lose our fathers to criminal charges over their reactions to finding out. It's important for fathers to make their daughters feel protected, but make it clear that they can come forward without dad running off to kill someone. Not that the dad 'ran off' to kill someone in this case, but it reinforces the fear in girls and women, that bringing molestation to light, will destroy their family.
Wow, thanks, I never actually thought of that, but I can totally understand that fear.

Sadly, some girls do come forward and their fathers and mothers don't believe them. As in SCB's case. It took her cousin and her parents belief in their daughter, to make the abuse stop.
 

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As a woman, one crucial part of my perspective, is that cases like this are exactly why women like me have hidden molestation... because we didn't trust that if we came forward, we wouldn't lose our fathers to criminal charges over their reactions to finding out. It's important for fathers to make their daughters feel protected, but make it clear that they can come forward without dad running off to kill someone. Not that the dad 'ran off' to kill someone in this case, but it reinforces the fear in girls and women, that bringing molestation to light, will destroy their family.

It wouldn't have to be like this if the retarded "injustice" system would stop or slow down on apparently protecting the pedos rights,even more when they in some cases already know the creep is a repeat offender.

Off Topic question:

For anyone who knows a little about brain
Do they know where is the part of the brain that control sexual urges?
if so can it be removed?
 

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It wouldn't have to be like this if the retarded "injustice" system would stop or slow down on apparently protecting the pedos rights,even more when they in some cases already know the creep is a repeat offender.

Off Topic question:

For anyone who knows a little about brain
Do they know where is the part of the brain that control sexual urges?
if so can it be removed?

perhaps they could be pumped with the opposite of testosterone.
 

lone wolf

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As a woman, one crucial part of my perspective, is that cases like this are exactly why women like me have hidden molestation... because we didn't trust that if we came forward, we wouldn't lose our fathers to criminal charges over their reactions to finding out. It's important for fathers to make their daughters feel protected, but make it clear that they can come forward without dad running off to kill someone. Not that the dad 'ran off' to kill someone in this case, but it reinforces the fear in girls and women, that bringing molestation to light, will destroy their family.

I lived it ... or the results of it ... the untreated and scared part of it. My wife was a victim. I might have called her survivor if she could have come to grips with the memories. She was terrified. You don't go against family. You don't get over a roll of the eyes and a toss of the head either.

The day her father died, I felt the weight of the world lifted from my shoulders. I had nobody to hate any more.

LP version available some day.....
 

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Now... intentionally causing death is too far. But as I've read this article, nothing says he intended to cause death. He attacked someone who was in the act of attacking his child. Pretty cut and dry.

Absolutely- you just beat him enough that dying may be an option beyond your control. :smile:
 

karrie

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Absolutely- you just beat him enough that dying may be an option beyond your control. :smile:

Anytime you raise your hand to someone, you may kill them. My cousin learned that the hard way when police came and took him into custody after a bar fight. He'd punched the guy once. The guy had gone home and died in his sleep of a ruptured aneurysm. The human body can be ridiculously fragile sometimes.
 

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Anytime you raise your hand to someone, you may kill them. My cousin learned that the hard way when police came and took him into custody after a bar fight. He'd punched the guy once. The guy had gone home and died in his sleep of a ruptured aneurysm. The human body can be ridiculously fragile sometimes.

Could very well have been a co incidence, Karrie, aneurisms always have the potential of rupturing. I hope nothing further happened to your cousin. A guy I knew in Victoria as a kid (real mean bastard) got into an altercation about 15 years ago at a Food take out joint, hit the guy once and he died, if I remember right he served a few months. I have a sense that that had more to do with his history than the actual event. This f**ker was just plain mean!
 

karrie

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Could very well have been a co incidence, Karrie, aneurisms always have the potential of rupturing. I hope nothing further happened to your cousin. A guy I knew in Victoria as a kid (real mean bastard) got into an altercation about 15 years ago at a Food take out joint, hit the guy once and he died, if I remember right he served a few months. I have a sense that that had more to do with his history than the actual event. This f**ker was just plain mean!

If he had started the altercation, things probably would have been worse for him, but thankfully, he was reacting, and the courts let him off based on the fact that returning one punch, wasn't a plausible attempt to cause injury, let alone death. But, don't think for one second that the trial, and the knowledge that he still factored into someone's death, weren't problem enough.